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Old 04-13-2003, 08:06 AM   #1
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Lil2rich4u a CHEATER! Read Inside!

Lil2Rich4u is a cheater, everyone beware of this scumbag.
I transfered one of my high PR domains to him www.tiny-teen-tits.org which had over 80 backlinks. In return he said to send me over 5000 clicks/day and 15-25,000 404 traffic daily. Now this bastard sent me 5% of that traffic/day and mostly useless 404 piece of shit crap. PLEASE ban the domain and blacklist it from all your directories where it is added. The domain is already banned at half the links, and Im working on getting all the links removed from Jay's website and other webmasters. PLEASE REMOVE all links to www.tiny-teen-tits.org

Everyone beware of this kid, he scammed me for weeks of work which is going to be hard to get back. Try to BLACKLIST him and all of his domains, get the word out.

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Old 04-13-2003, 08:07 AM   #2
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Are you the guy he's talking about in this thread...

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=124951
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Old 04-13-2003, 08:08 AM   #3
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For your information, lil2rich4u2 now posts as Stashi. Just so there is no confusion here.

edit: Yeah gman points out same above

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lil2Rich4u2 a cheater ? imagine that.



btw, that site is only PR4
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Old 04-13-2003, 08:11 AM   #6
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Try to BLACKLIST him and all of his domains, get the word out.

you fag ... too late for blacklisting me .... i 404'd every gallery i ever made for your dumb ass, ahh but ill get all that traffic back when we reverse this deal right?


dipshit go read: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=124959
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LIL2RICH4U is a huge cheater, Im getting the word out as fast as possible. If I seen this guy on the street I would fucking knock his teeth in.
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LIL2RICH4U is a huge cheater, Im getting the word out as fast as possible. If I seen this guy on the street I would fucking knock his teeth in.
Did you purposely redirect all traffic from his tgp?
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Old 04-13-2003, 08:16 AM   #9
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So you go and delete his entire site without telling him?

Tell me this... how did my EBONY traffic convert on your fuckin 404 program, dick?

Stashi... if you EVER get in partners with someone like this again, forget about ever doing any serious biz in the black niche.

This is a fuckin joke already.
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That domain sucks anyway... all this drama over microtraffic.
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Old 04-13-2003, 08:21 AM   #11
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I am getting all of his links deleted at the moment, I still have access to the FTP. Its not over yet, if I ever find out where this guy lives I will fucking fly there, drive there or do whatever the fuck to shoot this guy up. I swear on my grandpa's grave that this guy will have a cap in his ass before he realizes. He fucked with the wrong person. I dont give a fuck how good or how bad the domain I gave him was, it was more valuable than his crappy ass TGP traffic.
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Old 04-13-2003, 08:26 AM   #12
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I am getting all of his links deleted at the moment, I still have access to the FTP. Its not over yet, if I ever find out where this guy lives I will fucking fly there, drive there or do whatever the fuck to shoot this guy up. I swear on my grandpa's grave that this guy will have a cap in his ass before he realizes. He fucked with the wrong person. I dont give a fuck how good or how bad the domain I gave him was, it was more valuable than his crappy ass TGP traffic.
It seems you are an even bigger moron than he is. There are a number of things you don't do in this business, such as deleting business partners' sites (and thereby hurting their trades as well) and physically threatening people. Btw, you do realize that that's illegal?
You are burning bridges quite quickly, I must say.
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Old 04-13-2003, 08:28 AM   #13
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Old 04-13-2003, 08:29 AM   #14
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You just deleted my dvd site and trapped my 404.


I paid $3k for that dvd site man? I know you dont give a shit, but now this goes beyond you "reversing a deal" or ruining a domain.

Whatever, the dvd site was dead anyway i supose.


Did i mention nice doing business with you?
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That domain sucks anyway... all this drama over microtraffic.
What's microtraffic? His ebony site? I had 4 sites trading with that site (forcing around 2K or better a day each). All total I deal in about 350k uniques daily across the board, but losing 2k+ a day to a vanilla redirect gives me heartburn just the same.

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OK punkworld,
I have never threatend anyone over the net before. If you were in my situation you would do the same thing. This guy here is a moron, he told me he gets something like 10,000,000 visitors/month or some shit. Than after begging me to transfer the domain to him he gives me around 3000 404traffic/day. I was really ticked off, today in the morning he tells me why did I delete his TGP. Obviously to get more freakin traffic. There is a big different between 30,000 visitors and 3,000 visitors which he gave me on daily basis for around a week. Anyways this guys days are over, I have just enough money for a plane ticket to whever he lives. I know a few sponsor he is signed up with will try to get his adress.
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Old 04-13-2003, 08:32 AM   #20
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I already talked to some people on ICQ and they told me never to work with that cheater again, and that he is known for changing his nicks every few months and sending hitbot traffic to start off his trades.
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OK punkworld,
I have never threatend anyone over the net before. If you were in my situation you would do the same thing. This guy here is a moron, he told me he gets something like 10,000,000 visitors/month or some shit. Than after begging me to transfer the domain to him he gives me around 3000 404traffic/day. I was really ticked off, today in the morning he tells me why did I delete his TGP. Obviously to get more freakin traffic. There is a big different between 30,000 visitors and 3,000 visitors which he gave me on daily basis for around a week. Anyways this guys days are over, I have just enough money for a plane ticket to whever he lives. I know a few sponsor he is signed up with will try to get his adress.
I had pre-paid ads running on his ebony TGP. Are you going to reimburse me for the money lost by your redirect?
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I already talked to some people on ICQ and they told me never to work with that cheater again, and that he is known for changing his nicks every few months and sending hitbot traffic to start off his trades.
shiit dude! I coulda told you i was a cheater! No need to wait this long!

But hitbot traffic? Damn dude ... no need to make shit up, whoever has proof of this can step forward, or else shut the fuck up.
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Wherever he lives, whatever his real name is I will get back at him. The domain I had www.tiny-teen-tits.org was nothing special but got me 4-6 signups/month so I still made around $200/month. It got around 100 google hits/day and aol/msn traffic. I am just trying to get all backlinks deleted before he screws up all my link trades. Im sorry for the inconvinience to all those webmasters who will have to delete the link from their sites
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At 1st you did not seem like a cheater, but than I got opinions on you on other message boards, and I realized you are a cheater. Too bad I didnt know that before I transfered my domain to you.
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Im sorry for the inconvinience to all those webmasters who will have to delete the link from their sites
LOL
Fuck, dude, you behave like a spiteful little girl and cause shitloads of work and stress for a huge amount of people who have nothing to do with this, and you're sorry?
Remind me never to do business with you
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OK punkworld,
I have never threatend anyone over the net before. If you were in my situation you would do the same thing. This guy here is a moron, he told me he gets something like 10,000,000 visitors/month or some shit. Than after begging me to transfer the domain to him he gives me around 3000 404traffic/day. I was really ticked off, today in the morning he tells me why did I delete his TGP. Obviously to get more freakin traffic. There is a big different between 30,000 visitors and 3,000 visitors which he gave me on daily basis for around a week. Anyways this guys days are over, I have just enough money for a plane ticket to whever he lives. I know a few sponsor he is signed up with will try to get his adress.
You don't seem to get it.
You may be pissed off at him (and if what you say is true rightfully so), but this is not the way to deal with things like that.

Here's what you should have done:
#1 - try to resolve the problem the normal way (he mentioned he wanted to buy you traffic instead)
#2 - if #1 fails, expose him, blacklist him, hurt his business the legal way
#3 - take your losses and learn from the experience

Instead, what you did was:
#1 - go completely crazy and ensure that dozens of people will never, ever do business with you again, commit illegal acts and in general hurt your own business quite badly... all that on top of the losses you already had
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I had pre-paid ads running on his ebony TGP. Are you going to reimburse me for the money lost by your redirect?

Gman - This is not right your dragged in the middle of this.

Indeed you had paid spots, and some serious trades that got trashed ... i WILL make it up to you.

Ill just start a new TGP and give you topspot for free, as well as any banners youd like to place throughout.

The ONLY reason i brought this shit up on this board is to prove to you i didnt try to scam you or fuck you out of your ad's.

If your understanding, i am more than happy and will begin to work on a new one and leave this shit alone.

Again, i am sorry for your inconvenience.
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Wow, bad deal all around. Remind me to never partner with anybody.
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Gman - This is not right your dragged in the middle of this.

Indeed you had paid spots, and some serious trades that got trashed ... i WILL make it up to you.

Ill just start a new TGP and give you topspot for free, as well as any banners youd like to place throughout.

The ONLY reason i brought this shit up on this board is to prove to you i didnt try to scam you or fuck you out of your ad's.

If your understanding, i am more than happy and will begin to work on a new one and leave this shit alone.

Again, i am sorry for your inconvenience.
Yeah, but WHY does this guy still have access to your server?
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What's microtraffic? His ebony site? I had 4 sites trading with that site (forcing around 2K or better a day each). All total I deal in about 350k uniques daily across the board, but losing 2k+ a day to a vanilla redirect gives me heartburn just the same.

I was talking about theGthong's shitty PR4 excuse for an SE site and its whopping 4-6 sales a month.

As much as lil2rich4u might be an idiot, theGthong is just a bitch.
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I regret doing any sort of business with lil2rich4u, that reminds me never to do business with any idiots from gfy trying to make a quick buck.
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I hate to say it...but you really need to learn to NOT trust people.

Don't give some dude root over a shitty domain.

What the hell were you thinking?
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One again sorry to all those webmasters who had to go thru all this bullshit, sorry for the burst of anger but I hate cheaters - I hate them with a passion and I have never dealt with a cheater until today.
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Looking at your mess as an impartial third party, I would say if Stashi wasn't living up to his end of the bargain he should have been contacted and told to give the domain back.

Would have saved a lot of trouble.
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One again sorry to all those webmasters who had to go thru all this bullshit, sorry for the burst of anger but I hate cheaters - I hate them with a passion and I have never dealt with a cheater until today.

fuck off loser

How the fuck did i cheat you?!?

I promised a certain amount of traffic, and in the event the traffic wore thin i would buy hits to make up for it ...

you went behind my back deleting shit, including a site that costed me $3k+ to have developped, ruined my rep with some of my good trades (most actually), forced me to 404 50+ sites that were getting SE trickles, just to keep up my end of the deal ... for what?!?

And i cheated you?!
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I have contacted Stashi on the 1st day after he started sending me traffic. He said he will delete all of his html files on the server to send me more traffic, or that he will buy traffic to meet the agreement.
After 1 day I messaged him and told him I want my domain back, at that point he told me he deleted too much of his work to give me the domain back. Today I told him give me the domain back, because I dont wanna deal with your bullshit traffic anymore. He replied to me that I deleted one of his TGPs from his FTP. Well that TGP was getting an extra 500 hits/day to my 404 traffic, which is still only around 3000 visitors/day and we agreed to 20,000-30,000/day.
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It is fully my fault to transfer the domain to some kid from GFY in the 1st place.
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I have contacted Stashi on the 1st day after he started sending me traffic. He said he will delete all of his html files on the server to send me more traffic, or that he will buy traffic to meet the agreement.
After 1 day I messaged him and told him I want my domain back, at that point he told me he deleted too much of his work to give me the domain back. Today I told him give me the domain back, because I dont wanna deal with your bullshit traffic anymore. He replied to me that I deleted one of his TGPs from his FTP. Well that TGP was getting an extra 500 hits/day to my 404 traffic, which is still only around 3000 visitors/day and we agreed to 20,000-30,000/day.

Are you stupid man?!

That tgp ALONE was 20k+ hits!!!!

Your numbers are seriously FUCKED
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I have contacted Stashi on the 1st day after he started sending me traffic. He said he will delete all of his html files on the server to send me more traffic, or that he will buy traffic to meet the agreement.
After 1 day I messaged him and told him I want my domain back, at that point he told me he deleted too much of his work to give me the domain back. Today I told him give me the domain back, because I dont wanna deal with your bullshit traffic anymore. He replied to me that I deleted one of his TGPs from his FTP. Well that TGP was getting an extra 500 hits/day to my 404 traffic, which is still only around 3000 visitors/day and we agreed to 20,000-30,000/day.
Even if your side is true, that's no reason to act in the hysterical way you did.
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LOL, 20k TGP..

That TGP was a 2,000 visitors/day I have everythin tracked on foxcounter.com you idiot. You looked at the stats yourself, and than you told me I could do anything I want with the traffic.
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mule, I dont think you understand. He did not meet our agreement from the beginning and I WANTED my domain back, thats all I wanted. He wouldnt give it to me so because I had FTP access to all this kids stuff I started deleting it, for more 404 traffic which he was still sending me. At the end when everything was deleted the 404 traffic still came out to 3,000 visitors/day max I have it all on foxcounter.com

This guy is just a regular cheater and I dont know how in hell someone could trade traffic with him, I also now heard that he has hitbot traffic from a few webmasters.

Stashi GIVE ME MY DOMAIN BACK! I will give you all your files back, I still have them on my PC. I told you this morning....
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Petty arguing won't help now. You both screwed up, and you will both feel the consequences for quite some time to come.
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LOL, 20k TGP..

That TGP was a 2,000 visitors/day I have everythin tracked on foxcounter.com you idiot. You looked at the stats yourself, and than you told me I could do anything I want with the traffic.
No. It was more than that. I know for a fact because I traded with that site, and was sending 2K a day from 4 different TGPS.
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mule, I dont think you understand. He did not meet our agreement from the beginning and I WANTED my domain back, thats all I wanted. He wouldnt give it to me so because I had FTP access to all this kids stuff I started deleting it, for more 404 traffic which he was still sending me. At the end when everything was deleted the 404 traffic still came out to 3,000 visitors/day max I have it all on foxcounter.com

This guy is just a regular cheater and I dont know how in hell someone could trade traffic with him, I also now heard that he has hitbot traffic from a few webmasters.

Stashi GIVE ME MY DOMAIN BACK! I will give you all your files back, I still have them on my PC. I told you this morning....
LOL, no, I don't understand how you can fuck over a whole bunch of webmasters who have nothing to do with this whole thing because you're pissed at Rich.
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Old 04-13-2003, 08:55 AM   #45
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No. It was more than that. I know for a fact because I have sites that traded with that site, and were sending 2K a day from 4 different sites.
Are you calling me a liar now too?
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Old 04-13-2003, 08:55 AM   #46
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the(G)than 4/9/2003 11:23 PM man.. I gave you a quality domain in exchange
of traffic which you will take away from me
after you find out you make no money..

the(G)than 4/9/2003 11:24 PM I think were gonna have to turn this deal
around unless you do have other traffic and
are bs'ing

lil2rich4u 4/9/2003 11:24 PM im not taking anything, lol

lil2rich4u 4/9/2003 11:24 PM and as i mentioned, if i dont deliver what i
promised, i will just buy you traffic.

the(G)than 4/9/2003 11:24 PM OK please man just tell me you have other
sites, you dont have to name them..

the(G)than 4/9/2003 11:25 PM Like seriously, tell me whats going on..


the(G)than 4/9/2003 11:25 PM I dont want anymore traffic as of now, but the
traffic your sending me is good enough..
BUT do you have other traffic?

the(G)than 4/9/2003 11:27 PM I want my domain back man.. since this turned
out to be very unexpected

the(G)than 4/9/2003 11:28 PM Man, talk to me..


lil2rich4u 4/9/2003 11:28 PM wait

lil2rich4u 4/9/2003 11:28 PM are you serious?

lil2rich4u 4/9/2003 11:29 PM you let me delete my entire fucking domain,
any chance of making a fucking dime in the
near future, offer to buy you traffic, and NOW
you wanna reverse this?!??!

the(G)than 4/9/2003 11:29 PM Well I dont want to of course I dont want to,
I offered this..

the(G)than 4/9/2003 11:30 PM But I thought you were in a differnt
situation, just giving me some traffic you
dont need.. like maybe 1% of your total
traffic

lil2rich4u 4/9/2003 11:30 PM 1%? LOL!!

lil2rich4u 4/9/2003 11:30 PM i 404'd my entire domain

the(G)than 4/9/2003 11:30 PM thats fine










But i cheated you, right?? you fucking asshole .....
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Old 04-13-2003, 08:56 AM   #47
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punkworld, I still dont understand you.. I screwed up?
I transfered my domain to him after showing him my webstat. He AGREED to sending me exactlly 5000 clicked traffic, and 15,000-25,000 404 traffic. HE DID NOT MEET HIS PART OF THE DEAL. After less than 24 HOURS I wanted my domain back, he told me I wont get it back because he deleted alot of his stuff to give me mroe traffic, which still only came up to around 3,000 hits. He is a bullshiter and a lier and for a week I have been trying to get the domain back. Now I just have to make sure he doesnt come out good on this deal. Because he is still getting my valuable search engine traffic and owns the domain.
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Old 04-13-2003, 08:58 AM   #48
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I made mention on a number of occasions i would buy you all the fucking traffic you can handle, out of my own pocket ... just to keep my word with you.

How the FUCK is that cheating?!?




the(G)than 4/9/2003 11:38 PM ok listen as long as the traffic is up we keep
the deal up..
is the traffic stays the same as it is now not
less.. its still good but if your not going to
be able to provide the traffic Im going to
have to cancel this whole thing.. does it
sound fair?

the(G)than 4/9/2003 11:39 PM OK?

lil2rich4u 4/9/2003 11:39 PM no

the(G)than 4/9/2003 11:40 PM well I want my domain back than..

lil2rich4u 4/9/2003 11:40 PM i have no intentions of doing anything to hurt
traffic, and i even offered to buy you some
.... but after 404ing my whole online life,
there is no way to "reverse" it

the(G)than 4/9/2003 11:40 PM ok
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Old 04-13-2003, 08:58 AM   #49
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LOL you modified and deleted some of our ICQ conversation, thats funny.
Why don't you show them our deal on ICQ 25,000 404 and 5,000 clicked in exchange for transferring tiny-teen-tits.org to you..
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Old 04-13-2003, 09:00 AM   #50
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Oh and remember this?? When i offered to work for you for FUCKING FREE?!? JUST OT KEEP MY WORD?!??





the(G)than 4/9/2003 11:51 PM i registered free-2-see.com
I might start just feeding that site with
everything I have an like you said trading
with chokers links which give traffic back

lil2rich4u 4/9/2003 11:52 PM :-D

the(G)than 4/9/2003 11:52 PM than set up some good trades and build up my
own traffic.
you think i could do it in less than a week
starting off with 10k?

lil2rich4u 4/9/2003 11:52 PM yea, lol

lil2rich4u 4/9/2003 11:53 PM gimme 12hrs ill have it to 20k

lil2rich4u 4/9/2003 11:53 PM LOL!!!

the(G)than 4/9/2003 11:53 PM you serious?

lil2rich4u 4/9/2003 11:53 PM maybe ill run it for you for free to fill my
lack of hits?

the(G)than 4/9/2003 11:53 PM Ok listen tomrorow im going to build the
layout to my TGP site..

the(G)than 4/9/2003 11:53 PM the name is free-2-see.com so its a good name
for a TGP

lil2rich4u 4/9/2003 11:53 PM yea get it all setup

lil2rich4u 4/9/2003 11:53 PM and setup TTT there

lil2rich4u 4/9/2003 11:54 PM page must be a .shtml

the(G)than 4/9/2003 11:54 PM than after I do that, do you contacts to
webmaster I can trade with?

the(G)than 4/9/2003 11:54 PM I wanna do like an overall niche tgp..

lil2rich4u 4/9/2003 11:54 PM np

the(G)than 4/9/2003 11:54 PM so you have contacts of webmaster I can trade
with?

lil2rich4u 4/9/2003 11:55 PM as i said, 12hrs it will be at 20k if you feed
it 7k-10k to start

lil2rich4u 4/9/2003 11:55 PM lol yea, thats not a problem

the(G)than 4/9/2003 11:55 PM ok great Will talk tomorrow I have to go..


lil2rich4u 4/9/2003 11:55 PM :-D cya

the(G)than 4/9/2003 11:55 PM Now Im a little bit happier since this is a
good idea..
build my own traffic..
you think by sunday I could get it to to like
100k? if I finished the whole layout tomorrow?

the(G)than 4/9/2003 11:56 PM OK I gotta go talk to you tomorrow man try
to be on
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