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Old 04-13-2003, 04:36 PM   #1
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Suitcase nukes

I certainly hope that terrorist never get these

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Old 04-13-2003, 04:54 PM   #2
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According to <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,76990,00.html">this news source</a> Bin Laden already bought a few.

Can't always trust those news sources.

What would the market value of a working 1kt suitcase bomb be?

How do you test it to make sure it's not already a dud?
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Old 04-13-2003, 05:01 PM   #3
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How do you test it to make sure it's not already a dud?

Listen bro, no mushroom cloud, no bang, no nothing, I want my millions of dollars back
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Old 04-13-2003, 05:15 PM   #4
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"the Navy parachutist- with the SADM attached- swims to target and de-attaches and activates the bomb. "
... and then starts swimming like crazy
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An extra 80-100Lbs?

That would be a pain to haul around.
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An extra 80-100Lbs?

That would be a pain to haul around.

Note to self

" In the event of seeing a arab struggling with a heavy suitcase.. run"

That 80-100 pounds can cause alot of damage, more damage then a 747 jet for example
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Old 04-13-2003, 06:03 PM   #7
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Note to self

" In the event of seeing a arab struggling with a heavy suitcase.. run"

That 80-100 pounds can cause alot of damage, more damage then a 747 jet for example
The bomb has one kiloton of force, equal to 1,000 tons of tnt. It would flatten a half mile radius.
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Old 04-13-2003, 08:12 PM   #8
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The bomb has one kiloton of force, equal to 1,000 tons of tnt. It would flatten a half mile radius.

I can't fucking believe these things weren't made to self destroy after X years. One would wipe out lower manhattan.

Our defense dept wants to mass produce mini nukes so they can kill CHUDs.
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Old 04-13-2003, 08:57 PM   #11
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Events of a nuclear war


For just one nuke, the first thing you would sense would be an incredible
flash of light, in less than a millionth of a second. The temperature in the
target area would rise to 150 'million' degrees Fahrenheit -over four times
the heat in the sun's center.

Around "Ground-Zero" every partical of bridges,buildings, and tons of dirt
would instantly disappear. The explosion would create a crater 600 to 800
feet deep -in a ground blast-and 1 1/2 miles in diameter with a crater lip
on the outside edge of 300 to 400 feet high.

The blinding fireball would rise and expand at enormous speed reaching a
height and width of 4 to 6 miles.

Two seconds after the blast-5 miles from "Ground Zero"- the fireball
brighter than 5000 suns would kill every living thing -even before the
noise, winds, and shock wave would arrive.

The mushroom cloud would expand at a height of 25 to 35 miles and a width of
70 to 100 miles in the sky. It would rise from "Ground Zero" at 600 to 800
miles per hour.At half way up it would peak at 300 to 500 m.p.h. -totally
maturing in 15 to 25 minutes. The creation of this beast is the most
devastating thing to ever happen on earth.

Three seconds after the blast-at 20 miles away-the fireball would set trees
and wooden structures on fire.

Five miles from "Ground Zero" and 15 seconds later the shockwaves would
arrive with 400 to 500 m.p.h. winds.-that would level anything and
everything standing.

Twenty-five seconds later the winds would reverse direction and go towards
"Ground Zero".The reversing winds would suck up all remaining oxygen- out
to15 miles from "Ground Zero". The massive feeding of all of the air into
the' fire -ball 'is called the "furnace effect". This creates "fire-storms"
starting at and out to 15 to 30 miles away.

Nearby survivors in basements and bombshelters would have their air vents
clogged or else would be deprived of oxygen due to the "furnace -effect"
,thus, they would suffocate to death. The air would be sucked out of the
basements.

Ten miles from "Ground Zero" the 'fire-ball' would be 1000 times brighter
than the sun. At 10 miles away, the shockwave would hit 20 to30 seconds
after the blast with up to 200 - 400 m.p.h. winds while intensive heat would
melt all steel and glass structures.

At 15 miles from "Ground Zero" persons outside would be totally charred in 5
to 10 seconds.Automobile windows would melt as upholstery and tires
exploded in flames.Fifty seconds after the blast, the shock wave would hit
tearing roofs off of houses-exposing the occupants to the furious fire ball
above.

Twenty miles away from "Ground Zero" the fire ball would be as bright as 100
suns. Persons exposed would be totally blinded for life-if they survived
their 3rd degree burns head to foot.The shockwave would appear 1 to 2 min.
later with 100 to 200 m.p.h winds snapping trees in half and downing power
lines. ( If it were an air blast it would be around 200 to 600 m.p.h. winds
at 20 miles away.)

Soon after the blast, the radioactive cloud would start drifting
downwind-usually to the east.The drift speed depends on the prevailing winds
and other weather factors.The enormously high temperatures of the nuclear'
fire -ball' would generate enough light and heat to ignite simultaneous
fires over huge areas.In these areas, the heated air forms a rising column.
Cool air then drifts into the' fire-zone' to replace the rising hot air.As
the fires gain strength, burning hotter and more violently,the
chimney -furnace effect intensifies, sucking in air and burning more and
more violently.The hot 'fire-ball' incorporates all those materials into a
super-heated gas and mixes them with millions of tons of earth and
debris.The mixture condenses into droplets of liquid and then solidifies
into particles ranging in diameter from 1/1000th to 1/50th of an inch.The
particles have all of the dangerous radiological residues and are born aloft
to deliver death hundreds of miles away from the target in what is called
"Fall-Out"..

During the WWII Hiroshima bombing they had a firestorm two miles from
"Ground Zero". The present 20 megaton warhead missile can deliver a
'fire-storm' 500 times larger.

By the time the mushroom cloud has completed its 15 minute process of
stabilization it is directly overhead for distances up to 5 to 10 miles
away. As radioactive particles start falling the radiation level starts
rising rapidly to exceed 6000 to 8000 roentgens per hour , delivering a
lethal dose within 4 to 8 minutes.Individuals driven outdoors by collapsing
buildings are directly exposed.

Within an hour, elements of radioactivity begin falling about 40 miles
downwind. The activity of radiation level would be 3000 roentegens per
hour -with a radiation belt above 5 miles wide and thick moving downwind
like a giant donut in the sky.

Within a larger belt, ten miles wide, fewer particles are falling allowing
up to a half hour exposure before a fatal dosage is absorbed .

A radioactive cloud created by a 20 megaton nuclear warhead -with a 50
percent fission yield-detonated at ground surface would do the following
with a 20 m.p.h. wind:

At 650 rads is a 'lethal 'dose. At 450 rads is a 'severe' dose.

At 200 miles downwind unprotected persons would receive a 'severe'
sub-lethal dose of radiation within 2 1/2 days and a lethal dose within 7
days .

Even with excellent medical care the 450 rads exposure would eventually kill
about 50% of a young adult population. In nuclear war it is highly unlikely
such care would be available. Persons - 200 miles downwind-lucky enough to
be put into sanitized hospitals with everything they need to recuperate
would only have a 50% chance of survival. Thus, the very young , the very
old, and the over-exposed would have less than around a 25 % chance of
survival.

The radioactive' fall-out' from one 20 megaton nuclear weapon can drift a
thousand miles downwind taking weeks to a couple of months to finally finish
falling to the ground.

Downwind from "Ground Zero", 100 miles away with a 20 m.p.h. wind, a severe
dose of 'fall-out' will hit in 5 to 7 hrs. It will have a kill-rate of 50%.

The next wave, will be the 'lethal' one , that will arrive in 7 to 9 hrs.,
with a kill rate of absolutely 100% to all that are not in a good nuclear
bomb shelter.

At 300 miles downwind - at 20 m.p.h. winds-the 'severe' dose would arrive in
3days to 3 weeks -dragging behind normal storm speeds rolling up and down
in and out of the jet stream. The' lethal 'dose could arrive anytime 1 week
to 3 months later depending on the weather and atmospheric conditions.

If you were standing 100 to 300 miles away and looked directly at an
'air-blast' your eye-sight would be totally blinded for life. If you so
much as get a glimpse of the flash from your side vision you can be
partially blinded -permanently.

A nuclear sneak attack can take place at any time. They have submarines
right off os our beaches and a hundred nuclear suit-case bombs of 1 kiloton
hidden above newly built bunkers. Some of their "Partners -For-Peace" over
here have been nothing but "Trojan Horses" planting the seeds of our
destruction.

If you are in the city at work you will never escape. If you live 20 miles
from ground zero and the attack took place at 3 AM in the morning you may
survive if you can get your entire family to your nuclear bomb
shelter -without looking at a window-within two or ten minutes. If you would
have a nuclear "air -blast" strike then the shock wave will be 2 to 6 times
as severe but the radiation will be 10 to 100 times less. ( This varies on
many factors.)

If it is an "air-blast " you would have less than 1 1/2 min.to get in the
shelter at 20 miles away. If it is a ground blast you have to be
underground-at 20 miles away -from the radiation within 20 minutes as an
ultimate -maximum!

If you had special glasses to watch a nuclear war you would see a few
thousand warheads exploding all over the U.S. for a couple of hours so
intense the sky would be 10 to 100 times brighter in the darkest direction
you looked -for several hours! The horizon would have flashes like the most
horrible electrical thunderstorm your imagination could conjure up. The
earth would be in a constant shaking and rumbling state for several hours.

The next day the flashes and rumblings would continue but at a much slower
pace.- with long periods of silence. The next day the sky would be pitch
black in any direction that you looked.The earth would be in total flames
even many miles outside of the major cities. In strategic nuclear war , 2nd,
3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th wave attacks would happen for weeks after the first
warhead hit. Some nuclear submarines are to sit for months on the bottom of
the ocean -occassionally surfacing every few weeks for air and to dump
wastes- and then launch attacks months after the first strikes.
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Old 04-13-2003, 09:18 PM   #12
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Whats the website that that came from?
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Bleh, if terrorists had these, they'd have used them already. They don't exactly wait around for significant dates, they just sort of strike when they can.
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Old 04-13-2003, 09:23 PM   #14
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This is what they look like.

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Whats the website that that came from?

I have it saved on my desktop from a long time ago. I sometimes save pages on my notebook so I can read them later.
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Old 04-13-2003, 09:42 PM   #16
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A Hiroshima survivor. I think I'd rather be toasted all the way then to survive and have to deal with this.

But hey they had it coming. December 7, 1941 - Payback's a Bitch!







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I was reading somewhere today that they tested one 700x as powerfull as that Hiroshima bomb
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I certainly hope that terrorist never get these

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...ssia/suitcase/
Sorry your too late.
They already have/
The USA Govt!
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Sorry your too late.
They already have/
The USA Govt!
Our US government has WAY bigger nukes than that, ever heard of the hydrogen bomb? Yeah babyyy don't fuck with the US.

Anyway the biggest ever exploded was by Russia in 1961 was 50 megatons = 50 MILLION TONS of tnt.

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/CWIHP/BULLETINS/b4a13.htm
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Our US government has WAY bigger nukes than that, ever heard of the hydrogen bomb? Yeah babyyy don't fuck with the US.

Anyway the biggest ever exploded was by Russia in 1961 was 50 megatons = 50 MILLION TONS of tnt.

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/CWIHP/BULLETINS/b4a13.htm
Ever heard of the Neutron bomb?
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Ever heard of the Neutron bomb?
Ever heard of the Neutron Dance?
Its a song by the Pointer Sisters in the 80's!!
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All this is some scary shit!


I dont think the US should be allowed to stock pile on WMD yet tell the world no one else can have it.



I dont think Russia or anyone else should have more than a few nukes.



It is only a disaster waiting to happen.


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In my books ...

Russia ... China... US.... and 2 more of the major powers

should have few nukes to keep order in the world.



Other than that , get rid of it.


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Us stupid humans will blow this planet the fuck up. What an intelliegent race we are.
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I was reading somewhere today that they tested one 700x as powerfull as that Hiroshima bomb
Why the hell do you even spend money on research on bombs that do this much destruction? I hope will never have to use them
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The amazing thing is too think after they attacked the United States (Pearl Harbor) and we nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki, that we could ever become allies, friends, and strategic partners like we are today. That's incredible.
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