Kushner Admits to 4 meetings with Russians during the election

[Bladewire]

Right so Kushner witholds all Russian contacts on SF86 security forms, gets caught, then admits to meeting Russian Officials and representatives FOUR TIMES during the election.

Kushner defends his Russia contacts: "I did not collude" - POLITICO

In his prepared statement to Congress, the president's son-in-law recounts but downplays four meetings with Russians.

But the opening statement, designed to look fully transparent and take Kushner out of the Russia investigation spotlight, appeared to raise more questions about Kushner?s judgment than it answered.

To wit: the former real estate developer blamed the glaring omissions on his security clearance forms ? which did not originally include several meetings with Russian officials that have since come to light ? on an honest mistake made by his assistant at the time. And like others in the Trump orbit who met with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak before Inauguration Day, Kushner also said he had trouble remembering the official after their first brief, previously unreported encounter at the Mayflower Hotel in Washington, D.C. ? the same event where Attorney General Jeff Sessions met with, but didn't remember, the Russian ambassador.

Overall, his account of events ?still feels incomplete, it was not fulsome,? Evelyn Farkas, a former deputy assistant secretary of defense for Russia, said of the testimony. ?I still wonder exactly what he discussed with Kislyak? in his subsequent conversations to the Mayflower meeting, she said. But more importantly, she added, Kushner?s testimony provides no explanation for why he was cavalier in his interactions with Russians after intelligence community reports that Russia tried to meddle in the U.S. election.

?After that,? Farkas said, ?why not alert the FBI? It doesn?t exhibit good judgment, or concerns for national security or the integrity of our democracy to be taking those meetings with the Russians.?

[BaldBastard]

Today was just the feel good event, get him talking, make him confident, let him step right into a smelly turd. Rinse and repeat tomorrow, then repeat with Jnr and Manafort, let them have a week of glory, then kick them all in the nuts.

[RedFred]

He was not even under oath today.

Remember when Hillary was able to testify for under 2 hours and not be under oath? Me neither.

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

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ok this is good

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by RedFred

He was not even under oath today.

Remember when Hillary was able to testify for under 2 hours and not be under oath? Me neither.

The scumbag says he has nothing to hide, after hiding 4 meetings with Russians and commiting a felony by lying on an SF86 federal form stating he had no Russian contacts

[Bladewire]

All Roads Now Lead to Kushner

[Bladewire]

Kushner met with a Russian banker, the Russian ambassador & a Russian state attorney.... but he's not colluding

[siteman12]

Oh no the world is gonna end! Good lord give it a rest blade.

[Barry-xlovecam]

1 Stat. 613, January 30, 1799, codified at 18 U.S.C. § 953 (2004)
The Logan Act

In July 2016, U.S. Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack accused Donald Trump of encouraging the Russian government to hack the email of Hillary Clinton, Trump's opponent in the 2016 presidential election. Several other Democratic Senators claimed Trump's comments appeared to violate the Logan Act.[18][19] Laurence Tribe, a professor of constitutional law at Harvard Law School, also commented on the incident saying, "Trump's "jokes" inviting an adversary to wage cyberwar against the U.S. appear to violate the Logan Act and might even constitute treason."[20]

On December 29, 2016, retired lieutenant general Michael T. Flynn, President-elect Trump's pick for national security adviser, spoke with Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak, the exact same day the Obama administration announced retaliatory measures in response to Russia's interference in the 2016 presidential campaign.[21] At the time, Acting US Attorney General Sally Yates, along with senior national security officials suspected that Flynn might have violated the Logan Act with those conversations.[22] On February 13, 2017, Flynn resigned from the position of National Security Advisor.[23]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan_Act

Trump may grant Kushner a blanket pardon, before any trial ...

[Axeman]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Right so Kushner witholds all Russian contacts on SF86 security forms, gets caught, then admits to meeting Russian Officials and representatives FOUR TIMES during the election.

Kushner defends his Russia contacts: "I did not collude" - POLITICO

In his prepared statement to Congress, the president's son-in-law recounts but downplays four meetings with Russians.

But the opening statement, designed to look fully transparent and take Kushner out of the Russia investigation spotlight, appeared to raise more questions about Kushner?s judgment than it answered.

To wit: the former real estate developer blamed the glaring omissions on his security clearance forms ? which did not originally include several meetings with Russian officials that have since come to light ? on an honest mistake made by his assistant at the time. And like others in the Trump orbit who met with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak before Inauguration Day, Kushner also said he had trouble remembering the official after their first brief, previously unreported encounter at the Mayflower Hotel in Washington, D.C. ? the same event where Attorney General Jeff Sessions met with, but didn't remember, the Russian ambassador.

Overall, his account of events ?still feels incomplete, it was not fulsome,? Evelyn Farkas, a former deputy assistant secretary of defense for Russia, said of the testimony. ?I still wonder exactly what he discussed with Kislyak? in his subsequent conversations to the Mayflower meeting, she said. But more importantly, she added, Kushner?s testimony provides no explanation for why he was cavalier in his interactions with Russians after intelligence community reports that Russia tried to meddle in the U.S. election.

?After that,? Farkas said, ?why not alert the FBI? It doesn?t exhibit good judgment, or concerns for national security or the integrity of our democracy to be taking those meetings with the Russians.?

Wasn't just the Russians omitted. He or his staff omitted all foreign contacts on his disclosure form originally.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Axeman

Wasn't just the Russians omitted. He or his staff omitted all foreign contacts on his disclosure form originally.

Incorrect. You can't have a blank field on the SF86 online form.

You just lie and makeup shit fuck off.


"All questions on this form must be answered. If no response is necessary or applicable, indicate this on the form with "N/A," unless otherwise noted."

Security Clearance » SF-86 and leaving blanks

[Axeman]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Incorrect. You can't have a blank field on the SF86 online form.

You just lie and makeup shit fuck off.


"All questions on this form must be answered. If no response is necessary or applicable, indicate this on the form with "N/A," unless otherwise noted."

Security Clearance » SF-86 and leaving blanks

Jared Kushner says the assistant accidentally filed the questionnaire while it was still being prepared. He says the initial form left off all foreign contacts, not just ones with Russians. Kushner says he eventually disclosed more than 100 contacts with people from more than 20 countries. Kushner says that list includes the King of Jordan, the prime minister of Israel and a high-ranking Mexican government official.

https://www.apnews.com/b47efab0f81e4...ts-with-Russia

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Axeman

https://www.apnews.com/b47efab0f81e4...ts-with-Russia

You're an idiot through and through.

He lied. He withheld info. He had 4 meetings with Russians, during the election. A Russian banker, the Russian ambassador & a Russian state attorney. Fuck off loser

[Axeman]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

You're an idiot through and through.

He lied. He withheld info. He had 4 meetings with Russians, during the election. A Russian banker, the Russian ambassador & a Russian state attorney. Fuck off loser

LOL. You are suck a cuck. Get facts that dispute your intentional lies and then when called out with facts and sources, you lash out like a little child. Get mental help man. You truly need it.

And yes its possible he left the 100+ out on purpose to hide the Russian meetings. Prove it now. But don't lie and say he just didn't report the 4 Russian contacts, and reported all the other meetings.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

1 Stat. 613, January 30, 1799, codified at 18 U.S.C. § 953 (2004)
The Logan Act



Trump may grant Kushner a blanket pardon, before any trial ...

True.

He knows Kushner is caught red handed and doesn't want the father of his grandchildren to be thrown in jail.

[TheDynasty]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Kushner met with a Russian banker, the Russian ambassador & a Russian state attorney.... but he's not colluding

#ThanksKushner

[Bladewire]

Kushner discloses additional $10M in assets - ABC News


Oooops!

"President Donald Trump's son-in-law and senior adviser Jared Kushner "inadvertently omitted" more than 70 assets worth at least $10.6 million from his personal financial disclosure reports, according to revised paperwork released Friday."

"Kushner's wife and the president's daughter, Ivanka Trump, also filed new federal disclosures . She reported assets of at least $66 million and earned at least $13.5 million in income last year from her various business ventures, including more than $2.4 million from the new Trump hotel near the White House."

[bronco67]

Holy shit, this little twerp is married to Ivanka Trump. You just know this guy is not hittin that properly.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

Today was just the feel good event, get him talking, make him confident, let him step right into a smelly turd. Rinse and repeat tomorrow, then repeat with Jnr and Manafort, let them have a week of glory, then kick them all in the nuts.

I agree. Today was just to get him talking. Eventually they investigators will have more questions, and will put him under oath.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

1 Stat. 613, January 30, 1799, codified at 18 U.S.C. § 953 (2004)
The Logan Act



Drumpf may grant Kushner a blanket pardon, before any trial ...

I don't believe that's possible. You cannot pardon someone until after they have been found guilty.

And even so that wouldn't change much - we would still have to move forward with an investigation. Just because one person gets a pardon or even ten people get a pardon it doesn't mean we just say "no need to find out what really happened".

I think Trump handing out a pardon for any wrong doing would make him look even worse. However, at this point he has the lowest approval rating of any president in recent memory so it might just not matter.

[Axeman]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I don't believe that's possible. You cannot pardon someone until after they have been found guilty.

And even so that wouldn't change much - we would still have to move forward with an investigation. Just because one person gets a pardon or even ten people get a pardon it doesn't mean we just say "no need to find out what really happened".

I think Trump handing out a pardon for any wrong doing would make him look even worse. However, at this point he has the lowest approval rating of any president in recent memory so it might just not matter.

He can pardon before, during or after. It would be a terrible look though. Only thing he can't do is pardon himself if impeached.

" Accordingly, the Constitution simply provides that the President ''shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment'' (Article II, section 2).

The leading Supreme Court case is Ex parte Garland (1867). Justice Stephen J. Field, writing for the Court in a 5-4 decision, held that the President's pardoning power is ''unlimited,'' and ''It extends to every offense known to the law, and may be exercised at any time after its commission, either before legal proceedings are taken, or during their pendency, or after conviction and judgment.'' "

Constitution Allows Pardons Before Conviction - NYTimes.com

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I don't believe that's possible. You cannot pardon someone until after they have been found guilty.

And even so that wouldn't change much - we would still have to move forward with an investigation. Just because one person gets a pardon or even ten people get a pardon it doesn't mean we just say "no need to find out what really happened".

I think Trump handing out a pardon for any wrong doing would make him look even worse. However, at this point he has the lowest approval rating of any president in recent memory so it might just not matter.

It's called a premptive pardon. Nixon was pardoned before being charged with a crime

"In the case of President Richard Nixon, he was granted a pardon for any crimes he might have committed during the Watergate scandal, even though Nixon wasn?t charged with or convicted of federal crimes. (This is known as a pre-emptive pardon.) Another way a person can receive clemency after a conviction is through a commutation of a sentence."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardon

[crockett]

Rogue designer did it..

[bronco67]

If he's such a competent person who is capable of managing a giant, overstuffed portfolio -- then how are we supposed to believe it when he feigns ignorance?

Is he a dynamic hotshot business manager, or a bumbling idiot who barely reads the details of his emails, forgets the names of people he meets with and doesn't pay attention to details because he's overworked and tired? Not buying anything he says. The best thing he has going for him is his boyishly innocent demeanor, but I'm not fooled by it. He's cut from the same cloth as his father, and peas in a pod with his crooked father-in-law. Like everyone else in Trump's orbit, he's a shit stain.

[bronco67]

Let's see who tries to defend this little shit bag. No takers yet?

[RedFred]

When you go on national tv and say "I never colluded with the Russians", most likely you did.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by bronco67

Let's see who tries to defend this little shit bag. No takers yet?

He had this huge fake smile walking up to the podium and walking away he walked like he had a black dildo up his ass. Not to mention he talks like he's a pre-op transexual just starting female hormones.

[Barry-xlovecam]

President Gerald R Ford pardoned resigned President Richard M Nixon -- who was never convicted of any crime. The pardon went unchallenged in the courts -- end of discussion on that item.

I don't think Trump can let his son-in-law be charged and convicted of a crime like Regan did to Ollie North. Ivanka might go rogue. A daughter can testify against her father in court ...

[AndyA]

If anyone still thinks this is
'Fake news'

Kill yourself

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by RedFred

He was not even under oath today.

Remember when Hillary was able to testify for under 2 hours and not be under oath? Me neither.

Because they haven't established the crime he committed or supposed to. Once they do it's a different story.

Why he didn't tell the FBI and come clean is a mystery, but not a crime.

[NewNick]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Because they haven't established the crime he committed or supposed to. Once they do it's a different story.

Why he didn't tell the FBI and come clean is a mystery, but not a crime.

Really - so what crime had Hillary committed or was accused of ?

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by NewNick

Really - so what crime had Hillary committed or was accused of ?

She had kept government emails on a private server and then deleted them.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Axeman

He can pardon before, during or after. It would be a terrible look though. Only thing he can't do is pardon himself if impeached.

" Accordingly, the Constitution simply provides that the President ''shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment'' (Article II, section 2).

The leading Supreme Court case is Ex parte Garland (1867). Justice Stephen J. Field, writing for the Court in a 5-4 decision, held that the President's pardoning power is ''unlimited,'' and ''It extends to every offense known to the law, and may be exercised at any time after its commission, either before legal proceedings are taken, or during their pendency, or after conviction and judgment.'' "

Constitution Allows Pardons Before Conviction - NYTimes.com

Originally Posted by Bladewire

It's called a premptive pardon. Nixon was pardoned before being charged with a crime

"In the case of President Richard Nixon, he was granted a pardon for any crimes he might have committed during the Watergate scandal, even though Nixon wasn?t charged with or convicted of federal crimes. (This is known as a pre-emptive pardon.) Another way a person can receive clemency after a conviction is through a commutation of a sentence."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardon

I thin you are both right and I am wrong here.

[2MuchMark]

This just happened:
Paul Manafort subpoenaed by judiciary panel - CNNPolitics.com

[Rochard]

In one of these meetings they met with the Russians to coordinate secret discussions using Russian communications equipment. How the fuck is this not colluding with the Russian government?

I understand the occasional need to have a back channel to a foreign government, but the President of the United States should not be having secret communications with the Russian government. The state department, the military, etc, all need to be involved here.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

This just happened:
Paul Manafort subpoenaed by judiciary panel - CNNPolitics.com

Yeah he fucked up by saying he'd provide certain documents then not providing some of them.

Do you think Trump will pardon him?

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Yeah he fucked up by saying he'd provide certain documents then not providing some of them.

Do you think Drumpf will pardon him?

I don't think Trump will.... That might get one person off the hook, but once they are off the hook... They have no reason not testify. Meaning if Trump pardons Manafort, Manafort has no reason not to testify against Trump. At that point, Manafort can sing all he wants with no fear of going to prison.

[RedFred]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

She had kept government emails on a private server and then deleted them.

No proof she deleted govt emails. Why are you making shit up?

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I don't believe that's possible. You cannot pardon someone until after they have been found guilty.

Only the media is saying that Trump is going to pardon anyone. Trump even tweeted questioning WHY they are talking about "pardons" and the media turned that around and claimed that PROVED Trump was thinking about pardoning himself! lol

But to answer yet another of your ignorant pronouncements on GFY...YES, the President can "pardon" you before you are ever found "guilty" or even go to trial.

Pres. Ford pardoned Pres. Nixon even though Nixon was not ever even charged with any crimes.

The school system in the U.S. failed you miserably brother.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Only the media is saying that Trump is going to pardon anyone. Trump even tweeted questioning WHY they are talking about "pardons" and the media turned that around and claimed that PROVED Trump was thinking about pardoning himself! lol

But to answer yet another of your ignorant pronouncements on GFY...YES, the President can "pardon" you before you are ever found "guilty" or even go to trial.

Pres. Ford pardoned Pres. Nixon even though Nixon was not ever even charged with any crimes.

The school system in the U.S. failed you miserably brother.

Why are you lying?

Trump Won't Pardon Himself, Scaramucci and Sekulow Say

Scaramucci: "The president is thinking about pardoning nobody" - POLITICO

You litterally just lie, get proven wrong with facts, ignore you're proven wrong, then go on to the next lie. You must be high on a load of Trump's cum.