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Old 02-04-2017, 11:44 PM   #1
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Starship Troopers back on the big screen.

Just saw 1997's Starship Troopers on the big screen tonight. WOW I forgot how good this movie was, and how much fun it is. Fun story, Great VFX, Gross makeup, hyperviolent, and some of the coolest monsters you've ever seen. Plus, Dina Meyer and Denise Richards. Yum!



Worth seeing on the big screen.
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Old 02-04-2017, 11:58 PM   #2
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Nice original storyline, decent effects, but damaged with the cheesiest dialogue and acting. Reminds me of a 1950's sci fi flic.

Of course they ruined it with a handful of horrible sequels.

IF they ever re do this film with decent dialogue and today's effects, they might have a medium size hit on their hands.

Maybe in another 10 years they should re do this one.

I'm still waiting for the remake of Soylent Green. That has heavy tie ins with today's problems and could be a terrific dramatic film, if they don't fuck it up with cheap action and explosions.

Soylent Green could star: Matt Damon or Marc Walburg (maybe Tom Cruise?) as the role played by Heston, and maybe use Morgan Freeman in the role of Edward G Robinson. Lots of room for pretty women as well. Margo Robby as 'the furniture' would kick ass.
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Old 02-05-2017, 12:00 AM   #3
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Yea first one was a cool flick, I seen it numerous times myself. Shame they produced two more with miserable entertainment value.
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They could do a proper sequel with the movie's stars. set 20 years into the future. i'd rather see a good sequel than a reboot/remake
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I like starship poopers...
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Old 02-05-2017, 05:09 AM   #6
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i love the book and in general Heinlein's writings, when i first seen movie i hated it instantly for being different than book (a way different) but with time i've learned to like it as smth else and not bad scifi (still hating them for killing meyer's and keep that fake smiling girl)
i'm waiting for real ST made by the book one day.
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I bloody love this movie no idea how many times ive watched it.
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Yea first one was a cool flick, I seen it numerous times myself. Shame they produced two more with miserable entertainment value.
True , especially second one which was so bad in level of some bad B horror movie.
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Nice original storyline, decent effects, but damaged with the cheesiest dialogue and acting. Reminds me of a 1950's sci fi flic.

Of course they ruined it with a handful of horrible sequels.

IF they ever re do this film with decent dialogue and today's effects, they might have a medium size hit on their hands.

Maybe in another 10 years they should re do this one.

I'm still waiting for the remake of Soylent Green. That has heavy tie ins with today's problems and could be a terrific dramatic film, if they don't fuck it up with cheap action and explosions.

Soylent Green could star: Matt Damon or Marc Walburg (maybe Tom Cruise?) as the role played by Heston, and maybe use Morgan Freeman in the role of Edward G Robinson. Lots of room for pretty women as well. Margo Robby as 'the furniture' would kick ass.
Would you like to know more ?
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Best than Robocop I dare to say ...
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Are they bringing back Neil Patrick Harris too? THAT would be worth watching.
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it's of no surprise that leftists love a movie about ultra-fascism.
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I like that they released the theme song about two decades before making the actual film...

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I saw it on the big screen a few years ago when the Mystery Science Theater Guys did a Riffreax live show. Let's just say it's a good bad movie and leave it at that.
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Denise Richards was too fucking HAWT!! in Starship Troopers...
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Denise Richards was too fucking HAWT!! in Starship Troopers...
She's cute, but I always had a thing for Dina Meyer. If I had to choose, I'd go Dina.


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Yea first one was a cool flick, I seen it numerous times myself. Shame they produced two more with miserable entertainment value.
Yea really. The first one was so good, and every other one sucked.


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Best than Robocop I dare to say ...
Really? I don't know... they are both so damn good. I think Robocop was funnier, but SST had more action. Robo had better writing, but SST had better characters (or at least the characters were more fun). I don't know. Will have to watch them both one after the other and decide.


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In case anyone's interested:

"Starship Troopers: One of the Most Misunderstood Movies Ever"

https://www.theatlantic.com/entertai...s-ever/281236/

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When Paul Verhoeven’s Starship Troopers hit theaters 16 years ago today, most American critics slammed it. In the New York Times, Janet Maslin panned the “crazed, lurid spectacle,” as featuring “raunchiness tailor-made for teen-age boys.” Jeff Vice, in the Deseret News, called it “a nonstop splatterfest so devoid of taste and logic that it makes even the most brainless summer blockbuster look intelligent.” Roger Ebert, who had praised the “pointed social satire” of Verhoeven’s Robocop, found the film “one-dimensional,” a trivial nothing “pitched at 11-year-old science-fiction fans.”

But those critics had missed the point. Starship Troopers is satire, a ruthlessly funny and keenly self-aware sendup of right-wing militarism. The fact that it was and continues to be taken at face value speaks to the very vapidity the movie skewers.

Starship Troopers is set in the distant future, when humankind has begun to colonize worlds beyond the borders of our galaxy. Earth has provoked an otherwise benign species of bug-like aliens to retaliate violently against our planet, which it suddenly and correctly perceives as hostile. Interpreting what are pretty obviously self-defense tactics as further gestures of aggression, humankind marshals its global forces and charges into a grossly outmatched interstellar war. The rhetoric throughout is unmistakably fascistic: Earth’s disposable infantrymen, among whom our high-school-aged former-jock hero naturally ranks, are galvanized by insipid sloganeering, which they regurgitate on command with sincerity as they head to slaughter. (“The only good bug is a dead bug!” is the chant most favored—shades of Animal Farm abound.)

The resulting film critiques the military-industrial complex, the jingoism of American foreign policy, and a culture that privileges reactionary violence over sensitivity and reason. The screenplay, by Robocop writer Edward Neumeier, furnished the old-fashioned science-fiction framework of Robert A. Heinlein’s notoriously militaristic novel with archetypes on loan from teen soaps and young adult-fiction, undermining the self-serious saber-rattling of the source text. Even the conclusion makes a point of deflating any residual sense of heroism and valor: We see our protagonists, having narrowly escaped death during a near-suicidal mission, marching back to battle in a glorified recruitment video—suggesting that in war the only reward for a battle well fought is the prospect of further battle.

Over the nearly two decades since the film’s debut, the critical reputation of Starship Troopers hasn’t especially improved. But you can feel the conversation beginning to shift; it rightfully has come to be appreciated by some as an unsung masterpiece. Coming in at number 20 on Slant Magazine’s list of the 100 best films of the 1990s last year (a poll in which, full disclosure, I was among the voting critics), the site’s Phil Coldiron described it as “one of the greatest of all anti-imperialist films,” a parody of Hollywood form whose superficial “badness” is central to its critique. It fared well in The A.V. Club’s ‘90s poll, too, appearing in the top 50, where it was praised as a “gonzo satire destined, even designed, to be misunderstood.” Scott Tobias, former editor of the A.V. Club’s film section, lauded Troopers a few years earlier as “the most subversive major studio film in recent memory,” observing that it “seems absurd now to write it off as some silly piece of escapism, as its detractors complained.”

But the original misperceptions still persist. On October 4th, RiffTrax—a series of downloadable comedy commentary tracks from the creators of Mystery Science Theater 3000—released an episode in which they mocked Starship Troopers, a movie their website describes as “dumb and loud” and a “goofy mess.” Mike J. Nelson and his RiffTrax co-stars Kevin Murphy and Bill Corbett heckle the film with about as much insight and wit as they misperceive the film to have. Sample humor: At one point, a bomb destroys a giant bug, and the three of them yell “Oh no, Raid!” Later, Denise Richards smiles, and someone says, in a robotic voice, “Smile-o-tron 3000 engaged.” It goes on like this. The tagline for RiffTrax is “Your favorite movies—made funny!” What they don’t seem to understand is that Starship Troopers already is funny—and smart.

Troopers, of course, is far from the only instance of a film being popularly misinterpreted. Given enough distance even the most fervently reviled movie may one day find its legacy resuscitated, earning decades later its long overdue acclaim. Maybe that time is near for Troopers; hopefully, at least a few Rifftrax listeners newly introduced to the film picked up what was really going on. If you’re open and attuned to it—if you’re prepared for the rigor and intensity of Verhoeven’s approach—you’ll get the joke Starship Troopers is telling. And you’ll laugh.
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