Preventing Email harvesters.... can it be done? - GoFuckYourself.com

Exxxotica · 04-10-2003, 10:55 AM

Is there any simple solution that could be done to a page to hide the email address... so that those email harvester programs cant steal the email for their list?

p00p · 04-10-2003, 10:56 AM

use a cgi program for your mail, make sure the e-mail address is in the cgi script, not in a form on your page.

Exxxotica · 04-10-2003, 11:01 AM

Libertine · 04-10-2003, 11:03 AM

Use an email harvester trap

(page that creates 100 random valid but bogus email addresses, then links to itself with a different seed, a.i.)

DarkJedi · 04-10-2003, 11:06 AM

use this:

mailto:[email protected];com

foe · 04-10-2003, 11:07 AM

use a cgi/php program

DarkJedi · 04-10-2003, 11:08 AM

stupid fucking censorship.
script didnt go thru.

oh well.

04-10-2003, 11:09 AM

[email protected] for example ;-)

NetRodent · 04-10-2003, 11:14 AM

Use j.a.v.a.s.c.r.i.p.t to print the email addresss...

var user = 'webmaster';
var at = '@';
var domain = 'mydomain';
var tld = '.com';

document.write("<a href='mailto:"+user+at+domain+tld+"'>"+user+at+ domain+tld+"</a>");

p00p · 04-10-2003, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by NetRodent
Use j.a.v.a.s.c.r.i.p.t to print the email addresss...

var user = 'webmaster';
var at = '@';
var domain = 'mydomain';
var tld = '.com';

document.write("<a href='mailto:"+user+at+domain+tld+"'>"+user+at+ domain+tld+"</a>");

Hey, that's cool, good idea! But if you really want to hide it, cgi (or php) is the only way to go.

Exxxotica · 04-10-2003, 11:30 AM

Thanks guys

NetRodent · 04-10-2003, 11:31 AM

A server side option will hide your email address but it means you have to use a form for people to contact you. The problem with forms, is they rely on the user to enter their information correctly or you might not be able to contact them. A mailto link is much more likely to produce a message with a working return address.

ldinternet · 04-10-2003, 11:35 AM

You don't need to publish your address for it to be harvested. It can be taken directly from the mail server.

NetRodent · 04-10-2003, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ldinternet
You don't need to publish your address for it to be harvested. It can be taken directly from the mail server.

Only if you use obvious usernames....

p00p · 04-10-2003, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ldinternet
You don't need to publish your address for it to be harvested. It can be taken directly from the mail server.

How? By blasting the server with e-mails until you get a response?

ldinternet · 04-10-2003, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by NetRodent

Only if you use obvious usernames....

Well, maybe. A wise mailer always has an extensive list. It took 1/7 of a second to take 20 emails from a mail server belonging to one of Europe's largest ISPs.

poepperl@ *
poeppel@ *
poeple@ *
poephagus@ *
poephagous@ *
poephaga@ *
poep@ *
poenskopolifant@ *
poenskop@ *
poenisch@ *
poetasterism@ *
poetastering@ *
poetaster@ *
poetae@ *
poeta@ *
poet1@ *
poet@ *
poesys@ *
poesy@ *
poesy6@ *

ldinternet · 04-10-2003, 11:48 AM

p00p · 04-10-2003, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ldinternet

Well, maybe. A wise mailer always has an extensive list. It took 1/7 of a second to take 20 emails from a mail server belonging to one of Europe's largest ISPs.

Wow. How can you stop that? On the server side?

detoxed · 04-10-2003, 11:54 AM

The easiest way? Dont get an email address.

ldinternet · 04-10-2003, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by p00p

Wow. How can you stop that? On the server side?

I don't know, but I believe it is possible. Try harvesting on earthlink/netzero/juno domains, and some others, they will stop responding after verifying about 40k-50k emails. It creates a lot of hassle when a person has a list of 2-3mil+ letter combinations and words to get through.

p00p · 04-10-2003, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ldinternet

I don't know, but I believe it is possible. Try using a wordlist and word combinations with earthlink/netzero/juno domains, and some others, they will stop responding after verifying about 40k-50k emails. It creates a lot of hassle when a person has a list of 2-3mil+ letter combinations and words to get through.

So what software did you use?

NetRodent · 04-10-2003, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by p00p

Wow. How can you stop that? On the server side?

Stop responding to hosts that appear to be scanning for addresses.

ldinternet · 04-10-2003, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by p00p

So what software did you use?

I already said too much.

p00p · 04-10-2003, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NetRodent

Stop responding to hosts that appear to be scanning for addresses.

what if they use a list of 100 000 proxies or somethin'?

p00p · 04-10-2003, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ldinternet
I already said too much.

haha....

European Lee · 04-10-2003, 12:38 PM

I have an article floating around somewhere on this exact topic ill dig it out and post a link

Regards,

Lee

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NetRodent Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: In the walls of your house. Posts: 3,985	A server side option will hide your email address but it means you have to use a form for people to contact you. The problem with forms, is they rely on the user to enter their information correctly or you might not be able to contact them. A mailto link is much more likely to produce a message with a working return address. __________________ "Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." --H.L. Mencken

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ldinternet Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 8,245	You don't need to publish your address for it to be harvested. It can be taken directly from the mail server.

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