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01-18-2017, 10:03 PM

Author describes Columbus ‘fake news masterpiece’ that duped thousands | NBC4i.com

COLUMBUS (WCMH) – A Maryland man behind the ‘fake news masterpiece’ that claimed that thousands of fraudulent votes were found in a Columbus warehouse says he did it for the money.

Cameron Harris operated the ‘Christian Times’ fake news website that published a widely shared story about fraudulent ballots being found in Franklin County.

Harris told the New York Times that he bought an abandoned domain name for $5 and got to work.

The story claimed that an unnamed source said that a maintenance worker inspecting a warehouse found 12 sealed ballot boxes filled with thousands of votes for Hillary Clinton in the upcoming general election. The website asserted that the “likely goal was to slip the fake ballot boxes in with real ballot boxes.”

I am torn between my love and respect of the first amendment and my disdain for people who do shit like this. I spent a lot of time during the past election cycle fact checking and identifying fake news sites (both against Clinton and against Trump) and trying to let people know which were fake and which were real (predominantly on FB).

It became so completely overwhelming that I finally gave up.

Unfortunately the truth gets lost in all the fucking noise from all sides.

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01-18-2017, 10:05 PM

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01-18-2017, 10:12 PM

All of these websites are in it for the money. I bet most of them run political websites on both sides of the aisle.

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01-18-2017, 10:41 PM

Originally posted by sarettah

Author describes Columbus ‘fake news masterpiece’ that duped thousands | NBC4i.com

I am torn between my love and respect of the first amendment and my disdain for people who do shit like this. I spent a lot of time during the past election cycle fact checking and identifying fake news sites (both against Clinton and against Trump) and trying to let people know which were fake and which were real (predominantly on FB).

It became so completely overwhelming that I finally gave up.

Unfortunately the truth gets lost in all the fucking noise from all sides.

free speech and suppressing this ish are def not mutually incompatible. the freedom to do something doesn't mean it's the ethical thing to do. as a species we're capable of socializing ourselves into deeming ethics important and vitally so. in the process wresting power away from those who would harm for profit or power, without resorting to authoritarian practice

I don't even feel anger or disdain either, honestly. just sadness with a healthy dose of fear. I know it's archaic to consider the principles of journalism important but they are. they so fucking are. I honestly don't know how many people even understand what those principles are any more, not just in terms of parroting the words but a real understanding of and respect for the responsibility involved. not that we've ever been that successful at achieving them mind you =)

add to that a trend towards fear of knowledge and science and...

and y'all are probably getting DeVos down there for education? fuck me

please don't give up though

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01-18-2017, 10:43 PM

CNN is the king of fake news
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01-19-2017, 04:36 AM
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01-19-2017, 05:27 AM

Disinformation (fake news) is Trumps thing, he lies almost daily on Twitter and I've not come across any GFY Trump supporters that admit he lies. Like robots they always deflect to Obama or Clinton.

Disinformation isn't going anywhere as long as Trump is POTDS, it's going to get worse.

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01-19-2017, 05:42 AM

Originally posted by Bladewire

Disinformation (fake news) is Trumps thing, he lies almost daily on Twitter and I've not come across any GFY Trump supporters that admit he lies.

Disinformation isn't going anywhere as long as Trump is POTDS, it's going to get worse.

You can thank Obama for making propaganda legal against US citizens.

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01-19-2017, 05:55 AM

Personally, I think the entire fake news phenomenon is a direct result of the sensationalist driven agendas of all of the "mainstream" media outlets, from the Bill O'Reilly's and the Hannity's to the Obermans, Rachel Maddow, Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, Drudge, Breitbart, etc. all of them. Their entire purpose is to sensationalize for ratings and call each other names like little kids on a playground for the sole purpose of creating a revenue stream. The immaturity of all this is simply astounding. And, of course, the divisive nature of the ongoing rhetoric does little more than encourage their followers to echo the same childish behaviour. NONE of them have journalistic integrity. The fake news nonsense is just an extension of that, tabloid "journalism".

The one thing it does do, however, is give further credibility to a guy like Charlie Rose (on PBS) who may be the benchmark these days for the North American media, insofar as interviewing and reporting. I watched him interview Paul Ryan last night and it's such a refreshing thing to listen to someone have a conversation with another person without have to sensationalize for ratings and ad revenues.

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01-19-2017, 06:05 AM

It's the Internet parroting of this "FAKE NEWS!"

It's really planted disinformation.
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01-19-2017, 06:09 AM

Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam

It's the Internet parroting of this "FAKE NEWS!"

It's really planted disinformation.

The correct term is hoax

We need to untrend "fake news" and call a hoax a hoax

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01-19-2017, 06:59 AM

Definition of disinformation

: false information deliberately and often covertly spread (as by the planting of rumors) in order to influence public opinion or obscure the truth
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01-19-2017, 08:15 AM

Originally posted by JohnnyClips

CNN is the king of fake news

I posted this in response ot someone in the other Fake News thread but gonna put it here too.

Just to clarify something here for you and the rest that keep pointing at CNN and other mainstream media as "Fake News".

CNN and most other major mainstream media do not MAKE UP stories. They sometimes report something that is not accurate because their sources were not accurate. They sometimes may not practice wonderful journalistic standards in what they report BUT they generally do not make up stories.

There are the occasional fabrications such as Brian Williams exagerations about his combat experiences that slip in under the radar.

But that is NOT FAKE NEWS.

Fake News is the made up shit like the story referenced here, or the Swift Boat ads back when Kerry ran. There is more and more of it out there but pretty much the mainstream media is not guilty of it.

Your labeling Mainstream Media as Fake news at every chance you get just adds to the noise level rather than offering anything worthwhile to the discussion.

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01-19-2017, 08:45 AM

Originally posted by robwod

The one thing it does do, however, is give further credibility to a guy like Charlie Rose (on PBS) who may be the benchmark these days for the North American media, insofar as interviewing and reporting. I watched him interview Paul Ryan last night and it's such a refreshing thing to listen to someone have a conversation with another person without have to sensationalize for ratings and ad revenues.

Charlie Rose is the best

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01-19-2017, 09:41 AM

Originally posted by sarettah

Your labeling Mainstream Media as Fake news at every chance you get just adds to the noise level rather than offering anything worthwhile to the discussion.

In fairness, the mainstream media, including both right and left, DO project an obvious slant to both sensationalize and often to forward their own agenda.

Consider these possible headlines of a fictional event where person who had a stroke in a bathroom at a school while picking up his kid (and was only found when a kid went in) :

Mainstream Media Source A (headline): Man suffers stroke in school bathroom
Mainstream Media Source B (headline): Man exposes himself in school bathroom
Mainstream Media Source C (headline): Man suffers stroke and left to die in unmonitored bathroom
Mainstream Media Source D (headline): <US STATE> wants cameras in school bathrooms after man exposes himself to kids.

Now, the above are fake headlines, sure. And these are hypothetical. But it's also fairly clear how each is slanted to it's own agenda and it's own form of sensationalism to garner ratings and views. The only one not purely fake is example A. Every other one pushes the boundaries of truth. I'd argue that sources employing this type of rhetoric are no better than the fake news sites out there. In the end, they're all doing the same thing, intentionally misleading viewers.

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01-19-2017, 09:43 AM

I think "fake news" comes directly from Fox News.

A while back I tried to give Fox News a try and watched for about an hour. It was hilarious. This was when Ebola was in the news, and they had brought an American citizen back from Africa so they could be treated. Fox News wasn't reporting the news, they were instilling fear. They weren't saying "the US brought back this citizen to be treated" but instead about how dangerous this was, and telling us that Obama was going to infect us all and we were all going to die.

It wasn't news at all. It was thirty seconds of fact, and then half an hour of how dangerous Obama was. It was comical.

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01-19-2017, 10:34 AM

Originally posted by Bladewire

Disinformation (fake news) is Trumps thing, he lies almost daily on Twitter and I've not come across any GFY Trump supporters that admit he lies. Like robots they always deflect to Obama or Clinton.

Disinformation isn't going anywhere as long as Trump is POTDS, it's going to get worse.

CNN is fake news, not Trump
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01-19-2017, 10:35 AM

Originally posted by sarettah

I posted this in response ot someone in the other Fake News thread but gonna put it here too.

Just to clarify something here for you and the rest that keep pointing at CNN and other mainstream media as "Fake News".

CNN and most other major mainstream media do not MAKE UP stories. They sometimes report something that is not accurate because their sources were not accurate. They sometimes may not practice wonderful journalistic standards in what they report BUT they generally do not make up stories.

There are the occasional fabrications such as Brian Williams exagerations about his combat experiences that slip in under the radar.

But that is NOT FAKE NEWS.

Fake News is the made up shit like the story referenced here, or the Swift Boat ads back when Kerry ran. There is more and more of it out there but pretty much the mainstream media is not guilty of it.

Your labeling Mainstream Media as Fake news at every chance you get just adds to the noise level rather than offering anything worthwhile to the discussion.

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Their sources are fake...whenever CNN's says "anonymous sources say"...they're just making it up and it will be anti Trump no matter what
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01-20-2017, 12:14 AM

Seems so many fake news about Donald and Hillary

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