Victoria Nuland (known as "fuck the EU" bitch) has confirmed the USA have spent 5 fuckin' billion dollars (taken from the clueless US taxpayer pockets of course) to initiate the coup on the Ukraine. The US taxpayers have paid for every single drop of the Ukrainian blood. Do you understand that? Please don't tell me that's a news for you. The Internet is not forbidden in your country... I hope.
You know that I'm not a Putin's fan but you won't dispute the fact that the Russian army has annexed Crimea w/o a single death:
Was the US Army able to do something similar? Never. Man, it has happened just about... never. The only thing you can do is to bomb, burn and rape the civilians. Sad but true.
Since 1992, the government has spent about $5.1 billion to support democracy-building programs in Ukraine, Thompson said, with money flowing mostly from the Department of State via U.S. Agency for International Development, as well as the departments of Defense, Energy, Agriculture and others. The United States does this with hundreds of other countries.
Victoria Nuland (known as "fuck the EU" bitch) has confirmed the USA have spent 5 fuckin' billion dollars (taken from the clueless US taxpayer pockets of course) to initiate the coup on the Ukraine. The US taxpayers have paid for every single drop of the Ukrainian blood. Do you understand that? Please don't tell me that's a news for you. The Internet is not forbidden in your country... I hope.
You know that I'm not a Putin's fan but you won't dispute that the Russian army has annexed Crimea w/o a single death:
Was the US Army able to do something similar? Never. Man, it has happened just about... never. The only thing you can do is to bomb, burn and rape the civilians. Sad but true.
Have something to say?
There was at least 6 deaths during the Crimea take over..
1 Crimean SDF trooper killed
2 soldiers killed
3 protesters died (2 pro-Russian and 1 pro-Ukrainian)
but lets be realistic here and you know as well as I that Russia couldn't have annexed Crimea with out the fighting in other parts of Ukraine. There were shitloads of deaths in Ukraine lots of civilians and a fucking airliner shot down by Russian backed rebels.. Not exactly death free coup..
In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.
There was at least 6 deaths during the Crimea take over..
I beat at least 100 have died of diarrhea, HIV, gonorrhea, constipation, drunk subbing, hear attacks and vodka poisons during the annexation, but these cases have no relation to the military operation of the Russian Army. So please don't post your bullshit anymore. I know about two deaths only. One Russian and one Ukrainian solider have killed each other because of some conflict. They haven't follow the commands of their officers, it was their own personal conflict - not a result of military operation. Two idiots with guns have decided to find out whose dick is bigger. Man, that's not a military lose.
You are quoting wirkpedia? Go quote the article about the My Lai Massacre when the US soldiers have raped and killed even babies. You call these guys heroes, don't you?
I beat at least 100 have died of diarrhea HIV, gonorrhea, constipation, drunk subbing, hear attacks and vodka poisons during the annexation, but these cases have no relation to the military operation of the Russian Army. So please don't post your bullshit anymore.
1 Crimean SDF trooper killed
2 soldiers killed
3 protesters died (2 pro-Russian and 1 pro-Ukrainian)
but lets be realistic here and you know as well as I that Russia couldn't have annexed Crimea with out the fighting in other parts of Ukraine. There were shitloads of deaths in Ukraine lots of civilians and a fucking airliner shot down by Russian backed rebels.. Not exactly death free coup..
5 billion dollars is nothing for the US taxpayers, especially if nobody asks them if they are ready to pay it "for the fun". After that they are proud of their GDP. Course your GDP is high when your government is wasting your taxes for shit worldwide
5 billion dollars is nothing for the US taxpayers, especially if nobody asks them if they are ready to pay it "for the Ukrainian fun". After that they are proud of their GDP. Course the GDP is high when your government is spending your taxes to shit worldwide
Ukraine came to us and asked for help. We didn't stick our nose in their business. They came to us and said Putin & CyberSEO have dicks that are too big for us we want to stay Ukraine.
Ukraine came to us and asked for help. We didn't stick our nose in their business.
Of course not. You've just paid 5 billion dollars for the coup there. Just like with Georgia in 2008. You've paid for their military training, provided them with weapons, promised help... man your officers have leaded the Georgian military units... But in case of a real military conflict you just disappear and your "friends" had the only opinion to do this:
On a serious note. His army was trained by Americans. It was equipped by American weapon. It was commanded by Americans. What kind of help he's got form the USA when his army was involved into a war with Russia?
Of course not. It was just like with Georgia. You pay for their military training, provide them with weapons, promise help, but in can of a real military conflict you just disappear and your
"friends" have the only opinion to do this:
On a serious note, His army was trained by Americans. It was equipped by American weapon. It was commanded by Americans. What kind of help he's got form the USA when his army was involved into a real military conflict with Russia?
Apparently Obama wasn't strong on military maybe Trump will be strong, but when it cums to Putin he rolls on his tummy and puts his butt in the air so who knows what will happen.
You can't blame Ukraine & Georgia for wanting away.
You can't blame Ukraine & Georgia for wanting away.
who gave them independence? it was we! But not for USA blood games and not for put NATO military against us over there. If it is not executed, they will lose their independence. For us, our National Security is more important.
who gave them independence? it was we! But not for USA blood games and not for put NATO military against us over there. If it is not executed, they will lose their independence. For us, our National Security is more important.
Un??? Who gave a freedom to Ukraine a Georgia and who has taken it back? Who is sitting in the chair of the Ukrainian president on the picture above? Which country pays the salary to the Georgian officials? Please explain.
Un??? Who gave a freedom to Ukraine a Georgia and who has taken it back? Who is sitting in the chair of the Ukrainian president on the picture above? Which country pays the salary to the Georgian officials? Please explain.
It looks like Putin is stealing back Ukraine & Georgia almost like Crimea but not as forcefully. . . yet
We not take they freedom. When he want. they stay independent - it was 23 years ago.
But when the United States overthrew democratically elected President and the McCain participates in the civil war in the Ukraine - it is not independent. We not allowed this near our borders.
It looks like Putin is stealing back Ukraine & Georgia almost like Crimea but not as forcefully.
It's like you are watching some propaganda news and don't understand what happens around. If Putin wanted to take Georgia back, he could do it 2008. Their US-trained army was totally destroyed and it was unable to resist. Putin has needed a few hours to take over the Georgian capital and execute their president, but he didn't that.
The US-trained Georgian army retirement (speaking Georgian):
The same was in the Ukraine (Russian Army storms the Ukrainian military base):
If Russians wanted to conquer them, they would do it just easily. The questions are what for and who will feed them?
It's like you are watching some propaganda news and don't understand what happens around. If Putin wanted to take Georgia back, he could do it 2008. Their US-trained army was totally destroyed and it was unable to resist. Putin has needed hour to take over the Georgian capital and execute their president, but he didn't that.
The Georgian army retirement:
The same was in the Ukraine (Russian Army storms the Ukrainian military base):
If Russians wanted to conquer them, they would do it just easily. The questions are what for and who will feed them?
He's created a frozen conflict with them all to cause instability and stop growth & solid government from forming. This explains it very well, very clear: Putin’s Frozen Conflicts | Foreign Policy
He's created a frozen conflict with them all to cause instability and stop growth & solid government from forming. This explains it very well, very clear: Putin?s Frozen Conflicts | Foreign Policy
He's created a frozen conflict with them all to cause instability and stop growth & solid government from forming. This explains it very well, very clear: Putin’s Frozen Conflicts | Foreign Policy
But not putin was president when it happened (in Georgia)
lol @ US attacking Ukraine...you have to be really retarded to think like that...or being power greedy exKGB (Putin and his chronies) that sees conspiracies everywhere and foreign influencies
what happened IMO was the will of Ukrainians (well, HALF of them) to search for better life without corruption, better salaries, blablabla...What they got so far instead is even worse struggle than they had before....
Reasons ? many...foreign manipulations can be just one of them, not most important
its a little more complicated then that...what if "democratically elected" president turns his back on his citizens? Do nation have right to overthrow him ? I guess so...
when they will overthrow Poroshenko ? you never know...
were they naive with EU deal ? yes they were....
there are like milions of Ukrainians already in EU....later there will robots probably :-P
Originally posted by Sarn
But when the United States overthrew democratically elected President and the McCain participates in the civil war in the Ukraine - it is not independent. We not allowed this near our borders.
lol @ US attacking Ukraine...you have to be really retarded to think like that...or being power greedy exKGB that sees conspiracies everywhere and foreign influencies
what happened IMO was the will of Ukrainians (well, HALF of them) to search for better life without corruption, better salaries, blablabla...What they got so far instead is even worse struggle than they had before....
Reasons ? many...foreign manipulations can be just one of them, not most important
But why they not make reform now? 3 years gone. salary down, corrupt rise etc..
but Mccain make funny selfie for trolling Putin
because you cant make gold from water and its deep rooted into their mentality (corruption, post communist thinking etc).... every government that they had ended like that
when I look now who my nation elected I feel the same, like worse thieves instead of former thieves.
you never know....
Originally posted by Sarn
But why they not make reform now? 3 years gone. salary down, corrupt rise etc..
but Mccain make funny selfie for trolling Putin
its a little more complicated then that...what if "democratically elected" president turns his back on his citizens? Do nation have right to overthrow him ? I guess so...
when they will overthrow Poroshenko ? you never know...
were they naive with EU deal ? yes they were....
there are like milions of Ukrainians already in EU....later there will robots probably :-P
Few radical groups not have rigths overthrow President.
From the beginning it was. And you know, I was supported them (read my posts here of that time). But after that it went wrong. Wrong from about here:
Course it's ok to burn police officers alive because it's not America. In America the police officers will just shot you dead for that (they don't like to feel a flaming gasoline on their faces). Everything is ok in the Ukraine. Right? Because those are just Ukrainian cops, not the American ones so everyone can burn them at will. They have no wives, no kids, no parents, so who cares till their names are not Bruce Willis and they are not shown on the US TV?
This has nothing to do with the will of the Ukrainian people. The 5 billion dollars were spent not for nothing (the US government knew it). Should I post a video where Ukrainian "rebels" discus what should whey do to a guy with an emerged eye? They have decided to finish him because he's a cop. I won't post it here for a known reason, but you can easily find it on the Net.
Im aware of all that. Later guys like Yatseniuk, whatever were real jokes, even bigger than ex commie Yanukovych.
lots of cruelty on both sides probably unfortunately. peace
and no, 5 bilions dollars were not spend for nothing
divide and conquer !
Originally posted by CyberSEO
From the beginning it was. And you know, I was supported them (read my posts here of that time). But after that it went wrong. Wrong from about here:
Course it's ok to burn police officers alive because it's not America. Everything is ok in the Ukraine. Right? T Hose are just Ukrainian cops. They have no wives, no kids, no parents, so who cares till their names are not Bruce Willis and they are not shown on the US TV?
This has nothing to do with the will of the Ukrainian people. The 5 billion dollars were spent not for nothing. Should I post a video where Ukrainian "rebels" discus what should whey do to a guy with an emerged eye? They have decided to finish him because he's a cop. I won't post it here for a known reason, but you can easily find it on the Net.
because you cant make gold from water and its deep rooted into their mentality (corruption, post communist thinking etc).... every government that they had ended like that
when I look now who my nation elected I feel the same, like worse thieves instead of former thieves.
you never know....
liberals stormed the parliament in poland as i know
But not putin was president when it happened (in Georgia)
So it's clearly Russia government policy. Its smart to keep your neighbors destabilized so they can't form a strong government so you can take advantage of them.
its even worse when you do that with countries away 5,000 and 10,000 kilometers from your country.....
Originally posted by Bladewire
So it's clearly Russia government policy. Its smart to keep your neighbors destabilized so they can't form a strong government so you can take advantage of them.
So it's clearly Russia government policy. Its smart to keep your neighbors destabilized so they can't form a strong government so you can take advantage of them.
Very cruel though.
they government thinks usa want war with us - and them need only start and usa army coming and will make war with us. And they will take money and go in miami
It traitors own countries.
they government thinks usa want war with us - and them need only start and usa army coming and will make war with us. And they will take money and go in miami
It traitors own countries.
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