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OneHungLo 01-14-2017 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 21451381)
The "World Health Organization" ruled by whom?... :1orglaugh

Man, the only excuse for your mumbling about profit of circumcision for health is that "foreskin may lock microbes inside after a sexual act", but let's get real... You are not some Arab nomad and not Moses in the sands. You are a modern man and I believe that even in your trailer you have a hot water and a piece of soap. Haven't your schoolteacher of anatomy told you that you must wash your penis with a soap after every (yes, I say EVERY) sexual contact? This is obvious, isn't it? Course if you are a dirty camel who say: "I don't need to clean my cock because I'm circumcised" - that's your choice. You may even don't wipe your ass and don't wash your hands after a toilet. Good luck on that :thumbsup


Are you going to discredit peer-reviewed studies? Is there a big conspiracy to shame uncircumcised men?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1127372/

-The majority of men who are HIV positive have been infected through the penis

-There is conclusive epidemiological evidence to show that uncircumcised men are at a much greater risk of becoming infected with HIV than circumcised men

-The inner surface of the foreskin contains Langerhans' cells with HIV receptors; these cells are likely to be the primary point of viral entry into the penis of an uncircumcised man

-Male circumcision should be seriously considered as an additional means of preventing HIV in all countries with a high prevalence of infection

-The development of HIV receptor blockers, which could be applied to the penis or vagina before intercourse, might provide a new form of HIV prevention

pimpmaster9000 01-14-2017 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 21451789)
Are you going to discredit peer-reviewed studies? Is there a big conspiracy to shame uncircumcised men?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1127372/

-The majority of men who are HIV positive have been infected through the penis

-There is conclusive epidemiological evidence to show that uncircumcised men are at a much greater risk of becoming infected with HIV than circumcised men

-The inner surface of the foreskin contains Langerhans' cells with HIV receptors; these cells are likely to be the primary point of viral entry into the penis of an uncircumcised man

-Male circumcision should be seriously considered as an additional means of preventing HIV in all countries with a high prevalence of infection

-The development of HIV receptor blockers, which could be applied to the penis or vagina before intercourse, might provide a new form of HIV prevention

or you could try fucking clean girls a lab test in my country is free...your argument is as small as what is left of your tiny penis :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Tasty1 01-14-2017 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21451627)
Smegma

5 years filming in Australia and ONLY uncut dicks have stinky smegma (dick cheese).

I've seen a few deformed dicks because the forskin was too tight, so sad, and it's impossible for those guys to effectively clean under the hood, so sad.

When models with smegma clean it off it makes the head of their cock all red and blotchy, disapointing. You can have the hottest most perfect model and the shoot fucked up by a blotchy red cockhead, but at least it's clean of smegma.

Cut cocks never have smegma or tight forskin issues.

I'll work with any cock don't get me wrong, and a little smegma never hurt anybody, just answering why people choose circumcision like I did for my son.

So you did it so he could become a pornstar?

- washing = no smegma
- in schools you have doctors that check if everything ok at several ages, and also notice when the skin is to tight and you might need to cut in the dick. I remember they checked me.

Bladewire 01-14-2017 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 21451771)
Black Serbian (traitor migrated to Canada) :thumbsup
Your things inventing is getting better :thumbsup:1orglaugh




Barry-xlovecam 01-14-2017 12:23 PM

Interesting -- all the people who want to talk cock ;OP

OneHungLo 01-14-2017 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 21451804)
or you could try fucking clean girls a lab test in my country is free...your argument is as small as what is left of your tiny penis :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Awww poor lil thing so self-conscious :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

just a punk 01-14-2017 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21451627)
5 years filming in Australia and ONLY uncut dicks have stinky smegma (dick cheese).

Must be hard to be a gay actor sucking unwashed desert camel raiders. My condolences.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 21451789)
Are you going to discredit peer-reviewed studies? ncbi.nlm.r2d2.nih.c3po.shabbat.gay

Cry me a river, stump :winkwink:

Bladewire 01-14-2017 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 21451969)
Must be hard to be a gay actor sucking unwashed desert camel raiders. My condolences.

I like uncut Russian cock, it has a tangy vodka aftertaste :winkwink:

EddyTheDog 01-14-2017 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21451996)
I like uncut Russian cock, it has a tangy vodka aftertaste :winkwink:

I prefer Ukrainian - Much bigger than Russian:upsidedow...

just a punk 01-14-2017 02:08 PM

Baby Dies of Herpes in Ritual Circumcision By Orthodox Jews

http://a.abcnews.com/images/Health/g...0309_wmain.jpg

New York City is investigating the death last September of a baby who contracted herpes after a "ritual circumcision with oral suction," in an ultra-Orthodox Jewish ceremony known in Hebrew as metzitzah b'peh.

In a practice that takes place during a ceremony known as the bris, a circumcision practitioner, or mohel, removes the foreskin from the baby's penis, and with his mouth sucks the blood from the incision to cleanse the wound.

The district attorney's office in Kings County Brooklyn is investigating the death of the 2-week-old baby at Maimonides Hospital, but would not disclose the name of the mohel or whether there would be a prosecution.

"We are looking into it, that's all I can say," a D.A. source told ABCNews.com.

The 5,000-year-old religious practice is seen primarily in ultra-Orthodox and some orthodox communities and has caused an alarm among city health officials. In 2003 and 2004, three babies, including a set of twins, were infected with Type 1 herpes; the cases were linked to circumcision, and one boy died.

The mohel who performed the procedures, Yitzchok Fischer, was later banned from doing circumcisions, according to The New York Times. It is not known if he was involved in this recent death.

"It's certainly not something any of us recommend in the modern infection-control era," said Dr. William Schaffner, chair of preventive medicine at Vanderbilt University.

"This is a ritual of historic Abraham that's come down through the ages, and now it has met modern science," he said. "It was never a good idea, and there is a better way to do this." (The modern Jewish community uses a sterile aspiration device to clean the wound in a circumcision.)

In the 2004 death and the more recent one, a mohel infected the penile wounds with Type 1 herpes I (HSV-1), which affects the mouth and throat. It is different from Type 2 or genital herpes (HSV-2), which is a sexually transmitted disease and can cause deadly infections when a newborn passes through an infected birth canal.

Neonatal herpes is "almost always" a fatal infection, according to Schaffner. "It's a bad virus. [Infants] have no immunity and so it's a very serious illness. Now we have another death -- an unnecessary, incredibly tragic death."

Infections are rare, according to a 2009 study in the New England Journal of Medicine, affecting only one infant in 3,200 births. But it is a serious infection, with a fatality rate of about 64 percent even with antiviral treatment. And fewer than 20 percent of those who survive develop normally.

Schaffner was a medical consultant in the 2004 death of the twin, when city and state officials butted heads with religious leaders who defended their freedom to continue the traditional practice.

"Unfortunately, adults can carry the herpes virus without any symptoms," he said. "Applying the mouth to an open wound can transmit the virus, which can disseminate throughout the body of the infant."

Type 1 herpes is common, and 90 percent of all Americans have experienced infection by the age of 50, the vast majority without symptoms, according to Principles and Practice of Infectious Diseases.

About two-thirds of all infant boys born in New York City's Hasidic communities, who are ultra-Orthodox, are circumcised in the oral suction manner, according to Rabbi David Zwiebel, executive vice president of Agudath Israel of America.

"Of course the community is deeply saddened by this terrible tragedy," he wrote to ABCNews.com in an email.

"We really don't know any of the details as yet," he wrote. "Who was the mohel? Did he take the hygienic precautions prescribed by the NYC Health Department in the 2006 protocol it entered with rabbinic leaders of the Orthodox community, which are designed to reduce the risk of transmitting infection?

"Did health officials perform the type of investigation described in the protocols to ascertain the source of the infection? What were the results of any such investigation? It is difficult for us (and should be difficult for anyone else) to comment publicly on this tragedy or to draw any firm conclusions."

Zwiebel said the Orthodox community was "increasingly attuned" to health risks and to the importance of following safety steps.

Earlier this week, he told the New York Times that mohels were aware of the health risks and hygienic practices and warned that regulation could send them "underground."

Ultra-Orthodox Jewish Population Growing

But New York's The Jewish Week exclusively reports that the protocols that were agreed upon by a "broad array" of orthodox rabbis and health officials after the 2004 death were rescinded only a year later in 2007.

The city required one of three things, at the mohel's option: continue abstaining from the practice until he could be ruled out as the source of infection; agree to take anti-viral medication for the rest of his life; or take medication for three days before the circumcision.

The state health department dropped those protocols when a new governor --- then Democrat Eliot Spitzer -- took office and a new health commissioner was appointed.

The newspaper reports that the metzitzah b'peh practice is still "in widespread use."

The numbers of ultra-Orthodox Jews are growing rapidly, according to a study by University of Florida geography professor Joshua Comenetz, mostly because they have so many children.

He completed the first population survey based on the 2010 U.S. Census, estimating there were about 180,000 or 3 percent of the total number of Jews in the U.S.

In New York City, home to about 100,000 Orthodox Jews, the communities are reclusive, but they're also powerful voting blocks. Public officials try to work closely with their leaders to educate them about modern health practices and to encourage changes in a religious practice that is largely unregulated.

"Reluctance is a matter of respect," said Schaffner. "But then we have the occasional infant who succumbs."

If the mohel has an infection in the mouth and throat, the virus is transmitted to a baby's circumcision wound directly through saliva. From an inflamed wound, it can get into the bloodstream and travel to the brain, causing dangerous encephalitis and either brain damage or death.

The herpes virus is so contagious that when medical professionals give mouth care to patients, they wear gloves, according to Schaffner.

"If they don't, nicks around the nails can be infected with the patient's herpes virus," he said. "They can get bad infections on the fingers."

During the investigation of the 2004 death, rabbis proposed health safeguards, "but none of them provide assurances of safety," according to Schaffner.

One was to use an antiviral medication on the infant's wound, treatments that have not been tested for that purpose. The other was to use an antibiotic cream, which is ineffective against a virus.

"The standard is looking for zero infection and even if there is one, it's unacceptable," said Schaffner. "[The orthodox community] has a hard time getting their brains around this. The ancients are simply wrong about this."

Source: Baby Dies of Herpes Virus in Ritual Circumcision in NYC Orthodox Jewish Community - ABC News

Bladewire 01-14-2017 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 21452020)
Baby Dies of Herpes in Ritual Circumcision By Orthodox Jews

http://a.abcnews.com/images/Health/g...0309_wmain.jpg

New York City is investigating the death last September of a baby who contracted herpes after a "ritual circumcision with oral suction," in an ultra-Orthodox Jewish ceremony known in Hebrew as metzitzah b'peh.

In a practice that takes place during a ceremony known as the bris, a circumcision practitioner, or mohel, removes the foreskin from the baby's penis, and with his mouth sucks the blood from the incision to cleanse the wound.

The district attorney's office in Kings County Brooklyn is investigating the death of the 2-week-old baby at Maimonides Hospital, but would not disclose the name of the mohel or whether there would be a prosecution.

"We are looking into it, that's all I can say," a D.A. source told ABCNews.com.

The 5,000-year-old religious practice is seen primarily in ultra-Orthodox and some orthodox communities and has caused an alarm among city health officials. In 2003 and 2004, three babies, including a set of twins, were infected with Type 1 herpes; the cases were linked to circumcision, and one boy died.

The mohel who performed the procedures, Yitzchok Fischer, was later banned from doing circumcisions, according to The New York Times. It is not known if he was involved in this recent death.

"It's certainly not something any of us recommend in the modern infection-control era," said Dr. William Schaffner, chair of preventive medicine at Vanderbilt University.

"This is a ritual of historic Abraham that's come down through the ages, and now it has met modern science," he said. "It was never a good idea, and there is a better way to do this." (The modern Jewish community uses a sterile aspiration device to clean the wound in a circumcision.)

In the 2004 death and the more recent one, a mohel infected the penile wounds with Type 1 herpes I (HSV-1), which affects the mouth and throat. It is different from Type 2 or genital herpes (HSV-2), which is a sexually transmitted disease and can cause deadly infections when a newborn passes through an infected birth canal.

Neonatal herpes is "almost always" a fatal infection, according to Schaffner. "It's a bad virus. [Infants] have no immunity and so it's a very serious illness. Now we have another death -- an unnecessary, incredibly tragic death."

Infections are rare, according to a 2009 study in the New England Journal of Medicine, affecting only one infant in 3,200 births. But it is a serious infection, with a fatality rate of about 64 percent even with antiviral treatment. And fewer than 20 percent of those who survive develop normally.

Schaffner was a medical consultant in the 2004 death of the twin, when city and state officials butted heads with religious leaders who defended their freedom to continue the traditional practice.

"Unfortunately, adults can carry the herpes virus without any symptoms," he said. "Applying the mouth to an open wound can transmit the virus, which can disseminate throughout the body of the infant."

Type 1 herpes is common, and 90 percent of all Americans have experienced infection by the age of 50, the vast majority without symptoms, according to Principles and Practice of Infectious Diseases.

About two-thirds of all infant boys born in New York City's Hasidic communities, who are ultra-Orthodox, are circumcised in the oral suction manner, according to Rabbi David Zwiebel, executive vice president of Agudath Israel of America.

"Of course the community is deeply saddened by this terrible tragedy," he wrote to ABCNews.com in an email.

"We really don't know any of the details as yet," he wrote. "Who was the mohel? Did he take the hygienic precautions prescribed by the NYC Health Department in the 2006 protocol it entered with rabbinic leaders of the Orthodox community, which are designed to reduce the risk of transmitting infection?

"Did health officials perform the type of investigation described in the protocols to ascertain the source of the infection? What were the results of any such investigation? It is difficult for us (and should be difficult for anyone else) to comment publicly on this tragedy or to draw any firm conclusions."

Zwiebel said the Orthodox community was "increasingly attuned" to health risks and to the importance of following safety steps.

Earlier this week, he told the New York Times that mohels were aware of the health risks and hygienic practices and warned that regulation could send them "underground."

Ultra-Orthodox Jewish Population Growing

But New York's The Jewish Week exclusively reports that the protocols that were agreed upon by a "broad array" of orthodox rabbis and health officials after the 2004 death were rescinded only a year later in 2007.

The city required one of three things, at the mohel's option: continue abstaining from the practice until he could be ruled out as the source of infection; agree to take anti-viral medication for the rest of his life; or take medication for three days before the circumcision.

The state health department dropped those protocols when a new governor --- then Democrat Eliot Spitzer -- took office and a new health commissioner was appointed.

The newspaper reports that the metzitzah b'peh practice is still "in widespread use."

The numbers of ultra-Orthodox Jews are growing rapidly, according to a study by University of Florida geography professor Joshua Comenetz, mostly because they have so many children.

He completed the first population survey based on the 2010 U.S. Census, estimating there were about 180,000 or 3 percent of the total number of Jews in the U.S.

In New York City, home to about 100,000 Orthodox Jews, the communities are reclusive, but they're also powerful voting blocks. Public officials try to work closely with their leaders to educate them about modern health practices and to encourage changes in a religious practice that is largely unregulated.

"Reluctance is a matter of respect," said Schaffner. "But then we have the occasional infant who succumbs."

If the mohel has an infection in the mouth and throat, the virus is transmitted to a baby's circumcision wound directly through saliva. From an inflamed wound, it can get into the bloodstream and travel to the brain, causing dangerous encephalitis and either brain damage or death.

The herpes virus is so contagious that when medical professionals give mouth care to patients, they wear gloves, according to Schaffner.

"If they don't, nicks around the nails can be infected with the patient's herpes virus," he said. "They can get bad infections on the fingers."

During the investigation of the 2004 death, rabbis proposed health safeguards, "but none of them provide assurances of safety," according to Schaffner.

One was to use an antiviral medication on the infant's wound, treatments that have not been tested for that purpose. The other was to use an antibiotic cream, which is ineffective against a virus.

"The standard is looking for zero infection and even if there is one, it's unacceptable," said Schaffner. "[The orthodox community] has a hard time getting their brains around this. The ancients are simply wrong about this."

Source: Baby Dies of Herpes Virus in Ritual Circumcision in NYC Orthodox Jewish Community - ABC News

I've seen a number of fucked up circumcisions. One guy was a great shooter, could shoot 6 feet, but he had to keep his finger over the second hole that was cut in his dick during circumcision. He had to do the same while pissing.

Another dude took forever to cum because a lot of his frenum was cut off during circumcision and he didn't have a lot of sensitivity.

Bladewire 01-14-2017 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 21452002)
I prefer Ukrainian - Much bigger than Russian:upsidedow...

That would be a fun trip! :thumbsup

mineistaken 01-14-2017 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21451810)



:1orglaugh

pimpmaster9000 01-14-2017 05:29 PM

do not eat calamari behind a mosque :2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

http://media.olivegarden.com/en_us/i...lamari-dpv.jpg

Bladewire 01-14-2017 05:51 PM








ruff 01-14-2017 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 21448960)
I'll just drop this here for you osama bin laden.......

Getting circumcised will result in:

? Having to go through a very minor surgical procedure that carries with it small risks.

? Improved hygiene.

? Much lower risk of urinary tract infections.

? Much lower chance of acquiring HIV, the AIDS virus, heterosexually.

? Virtually complete elimination of the risk of invasive penile cancer.

? Slightly lower risk of prostate cancer.

? More favorable hygiene for the man?s sexual partner.

? Much lower risk of cervical cancer and Chlamydia (and thus infertility and other problems) in the female sexual partner.

? More favorable sexual function and experience, with no reduction in sensation during arousal or in the sensitivity of the flaccid penis.

? A penis that is regarded by most men and women as being more attractive.

In the US it's not about any of the above which is just bullshit, it's about the fucking money. Nature is pretty damn good at getting rid of what's needed on it's own. If we're born with foreskin, it's there for a reason.

pimpmaster9000 01-14-2017 07:03 PM

Sorry about your foreskins! But look on the bright side, there's a 1 in 441 chance you won't get a urinary tract infection and have to take a few pills like normal people...Totally worth snipping dick for IRL

MiamiBoyz 01-14-2017 08:25 PM

Sick cocksucking Jews - Why Ultra-Orthodox Jewish Babies Keep Getting Herpes
 
Why Ultra-Orthodox Jewish Babies Keep Getting Herpes

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Sick cocksucking Jew

MiamiBoyz 01-14-2017 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21452446)





I am sure it works really well on those tiny Asian cocks. :1orglaugh

pimpmaster9000 01-15-2017 04:50 AM

circumcision may well be the longest running prank in history...one religious group got together and started stoking others and it got popular and they LOL-ed...


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