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Old 04-06-2003, 04:54 AM   #1
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Step 1
Build the TGP using all chokers links (he will send traffic back for all clicks)
Note how the part of creating a design that gets high prod is completely left out. Note how testing the design is left out. Note how getting free traffic is left out.

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Step 2
submit TGP to choker for approval to buy traffic
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Step 3
*AFTER* it has been approved buy 300k hits or so and PAUSE THE TRAFFIC!!!
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Step 4
Go *shopping* for trades. Join 1 and go to his top 3 trades on his toplist and join there also .... continue until you have 10-30big boys on there AND 20-40 smaller ones (they send productive traffic sometimes)
Note how checking which trades are good and which aren't is left out.

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Step 5
Release the hits!
Let the 300k hits from choker click all over the place and feed your trades, hopefully you will jump start some big trades and they with only 3 or 4 they will feed each other with no other traffic.

My estimate is that if you buy 300k hits and use this strategy, you will soon have an AVG of 100k-190k self generated hits per day.
You do not know if you have a design which will get good productivity, you do not know if you have trades that send productive traffic, you do not know if you have trades that send much traffic. In short, you have no fucking clue if you will get any self-generated hits whatsoever.

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Step 6
Reduce chokers links to about half the TGP and the other half make them from submissions. Doing this will ensure some more traffic from choker. You want his hits because they are sometimes very productive.
But for God's sake, please do not consider the effect of filling your tgp with that kind of galleries on productivity.

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Step 7
Post on forums that you now have a 150k+ tgp looking for quality galleries with recips.

Once these guys see you sending a few k per day to their galleries, BELIEVE me they will be back tomorrow to submit more, as many as you let them!
Yeah. Getting galleries has always been such a huge problem...

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Step 8
Add an AP click-pic banner on top or middle of page, with this amount of traffic this will surely generate over $150 per month.
And you will lose traffic on it.

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Step 9
Mention you are selling a top banner spot on your 200k TGP, people will pay near or over $500 for this monthly!
You have now mysteriously gained 50k in traffic while you still have not checked productivity or the quality of your trades?

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Step 10
Reserve top 5 gallery positions for your own galleries. You can either use your own and make use of a gallery rotator script, or most sponsors have rotating hosted galleries.
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Step 11 (probably should have been sooner)
Add a toplist!!! Very basic, but make sure its on top of page. *DO NOT* add target="_new" or blank or anything, let them leave your site. Reason for this is because toplists will get good clickthroughs, and if you let the surfer know he is going to see more links before he clicks it, you will have SUPER high productivity on the other end and recieve 2-3x the amount of hits back.
Ofcourse, people will start clicking your toplist en masse once you put it up. Putting a toplist on the top of your page won't lower prod from new surfers at all, ofcourse...

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Step 12
By now you have about 300k-400k a day. Add a banner rotating script to the bottom or middle of the page. With this many hits someone is bound to click it and make you $35-$55 per sale!
You have now mysteriously gained another 100k-200k a day, still without optimizing your design and keeping the best trades and deleting bad ones? Surfers are very productive on your site, even though a toplist is the first thing they see on it and many of the galleries they're sent to are choker's galleries?
Btw, the "put it up and they will click it" marketing strategy almost worked a few years ago. Today, it does not work at all.


Now, what will really happen if you follow this "strategy":
Your TGP will grow HUGE in a few days, yes. Then, traffic will start falling like a turd in a toilet bowl, eventually going down the drain completely. You will not get bookmarkers, you will not convert well (remember, marketing strategies are left out completely), you will have wasted quite a bit of money.

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Old 04-06-2003, 04:59 AM   #2
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Any questions?
How long before richierich would have figured that out by himself?
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Old 04-06-2003, 05:00 AM   #3
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How long before richierich would have figured that out by himself?
About $10k.
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Old 04-06-2003, 05:01 AM   #4
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your just jealous caus you don't know how to make a 200k tgp in 12 easy steps and 24 hours



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Old 04-06-2003, 05:05 AM   #5
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instead of spending the time reading your thread... i'm gonna try to get some work done...

you should have used the time it took you to quote and debate all that to get some of your shit done.

you know?
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Old 04-06-2003, 05:07 AM   #6
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Leave lil2rich4u2 alone! He's doing an excellent job: he's luring newbies to his tutorial, they'll follow his suggestions, go bankrupt, and disappear forever
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Old 04-06-2003, 05:07 AM   #7
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instead of spending the time reading your thread... i'm gonna try to get some work done...

you should have used the time it took you to quote and debate all that to get some of your shit done.

you know?
You should've used the time it took to make this post to spank one off
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Old 04-06-2003, 05:18 AM   #8
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You should've used the time it took to make this post to spank one off
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Old 04-06-2003, 05:37 AM   #9
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I said before the plan had lots of flaws but I was not going to talk about it. You just did that, too bad...
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Old 04-06-2003, 05:39 AM   #10
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I said before the plan had lots of flaws but I was not going to talk about it. You just did that, too bad...
These are only a few of the superficial flaws (although enough to cost a lot of money and make the plan worthless). I have left the fundamental flaws out, however.
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Old 04-09-2003, 11:05 AM   #11
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Sorry, never noticed this thread when it was started, lol

For gods sake stop saying "optimize your design" because that is total bullshit ... seriously. We arent looking for SE hits, and right now are not looking for bookmarkers. We are looking to establish strong trades with high numbers. Design has nothing whatsoever to do with that.

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Now, what will really happen if you follow this "strategy":
Your TGP will grow HUGE in a few days, yes. Then, traffic will start falling like a turd in a toilet bowl, eventually going down the drain completely. You will not get bookmarkers, you will not convert well (remember, marketing strategies are left out completely), you will have wasted quite a bit of money.
Not true .... you make good points, but this "guide" has now been tested. It did not produce the 400k i think we all talked about, but it did however avg out well over 200k steady.

Yes there is a good possibility you will lose it all within 1 week, this will happen if you add all the trades and run away from the PC, lol ..... you need to be constantly on top of the entire program day in and day out in the beginning to weed out any cheaters, non productive trades, etc.

BTW your comment about ading the AP pic "and lose traffic"..... a TGP is just one big traffic leak, would you rather lose a percentage to a program that will put money in your pocket?

I dont make a fortune with AP, but i can honestly tell you its my most steady sponsor for the last few months. Its like money in the bank .... i would never build a TGP without adding atleast one AP pic.



Overall good points, i think however you and I are looking at 2 entirley different goals ... im looking for a quick hump of traffic, your looking for design quality, bookmarkers, strategic placement of promotional stuff etc. Not that your idea is bad, its just a completely different monster than this plan describes.


Thanks for taking the time to reply though. Helped me understand a bit more about a more quality site.
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