Nats still have a no-shave policy?

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  • faxxaff
    Confirmed User
    • Dec 2002
    • 2134

    #1

    Nats still have a no-shave policy?

    I guess some might smile about my question, but let me ask this as the first dumb question of the year. I remember Nats used to state that part of their licensing deal would be to disallow shaving of affiliates, didn't they? Is that rule still valid and enforced?
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  • Odysseus
    Confirmed User
    • Apr 2005
    • 745

    #2
    In any case this rule could never work 100%
    What exactly happened?

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    • babeterminal
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      • Jul 2010
      • 2751

      #3
      would be nice if true
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      • klinton
        So Fucking Banned
        • Apr 2003
        • 8766

        #4
        why ?????????
        Originally posted by Odysseus
        In any case this rule could never work 100%

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        • redwhiteandblue
          Bollocks
          • Jun 2007
          • 2793

          #5
          I'm sure sponsors would never consider doing such a thing in this day and age......
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          • bns666
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            • Mar 2005
            • 11555

            #6
            Originally posted by redwhiteandblue
            I'm sure sponsors would never consider doing such a thing in this day and age......
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            • Paul&John
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              • Aug 2005
              • 8644

              #7
              Originally posted by redwhiteandblue
              I'm sure sponsors would never consider doing such a thing in this day and age......
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              • Barry-xlovecam
                It's 42
                • Jun 2010
                • 18083

                #8
                Shaving thread #10,000,000

                If you don't want to ever think you ''get shaved'' sell real estate or some other business you need a license for and is regulated. Bringing a signed order with a check attached to the office is good too.

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                • faxxaff
                  Confirmed User
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 2134

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                  Shaving thread #10,000,000

                  If you don't want to ever think you ''get shaved'' sell real estate or some other business you need a license for and is regulated. Bringing a signed order with a check attached to the office is good too.
                  Some programs trim and shave like chicks do with their vagina. I guess we all can live with that as long as it's not that ugly. But some put dynamite into a vagina and blow it up. Nobody deserves such a bloody mess.
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                  • Barry-xlovecam
                    It's 42
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 18083

                    #10
                    Make some test buys with your friends' credit cards and see if you get paid. Buy prepaid cards for your friends (ideally in different card companies and different locations) and load them with sufficient funds.

                    Spend the $160 -$200 yourself to find out and prove they are shaving -- have the friend test your links like a customer would use -- make sure all is good browser wise, etc, don't use tor or VPNs use real IPs -- don't tell the sponsors anything -- see if you get paid --- then out or bless them them here. At least you will know which of your sponsors is honest.

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                    • faxxaff
                      Confirmed User
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 2134

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                      Make some test buys with your friends' credit cards and see if you get paid. Buy prepaid cards for your friends (ideally in different card companies and different locations) and load them with sufficient funds.

                      Spend the $160 -$200 yourself to find out and prove they are shaving -- have the friend test your links like a customer would use -- make sure all is good browser wise, etc, don't use tor or VPNs use real IPs -- don't tell the sponsors anything -- see if you get paid --- then out or bless them them here. At least you will know which of your sponsors is honest.

                      Libeling the unknown evil is a GFY tradition
                      Unfortunately, that's just a way to test new signups. How would you test for rebills? Let's say 500 rebills a month disappear from the system and go to zero next month? Would love to hear your suggestion. I doubt it can be a coincidence ....
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                      • PornDiscounts-V
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                        • Oct 2003
                        • 5744

                        #12
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                        • Barry-xlovecam
                          It's 42
                          • Jun 2010
                          • 18083

                          #13
                          The churn rate?

                          Find another sponsor if the customers don't stick around.

                          If your customers don't rebill a much there is some problem -- a problem you will never solve unless you have ''first count'' (sell the actual content).

                          Cam sales do not rebill so you could make repeat purchases and see if they are credited if necessary.

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                          • Konda
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                            • Apr 2003
                            • 2280

                            #14
                            Nats it's just the tracking software. There is no built in shave function (like there was in another affiliate tracking system), but programs that want to shave can easily use tricks to shave if they wanted to, regardless of the tracking software.
                            Just use programs you trust with your traffic, the tracking platform should not matter.

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                            • faxxaff
                              Confirmed User
                              • Dec 2002
                              • 2134

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Konda
                              Nats it's just the tracking software. There is no built in shave function (like there was in another affiliate tracking system), but programs that want to shave can easily use tricks to shave if they wanted to, regardless of the tracking software.
                              Just use programs you trust with your traffic, the tracking platform should not matter.
                              Unfortunately, competition isn't great in that niche. That leaves me without an opportunity to monetize 5k hits per day.
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                              • Barry-xlovecam
                                It's 42
                                • Jun 2010
                                • 18083

                                #16
                                Either that ^^^ or if you have a large sample over a pool of sponsors
                                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deviat...lute_deviation

                                Try statistical deviation.
                                However, you would need a large pool of overall data for an industry -- that is known true data.

                                If you ask every sponsor what their rebill rate is they would just fabricate a number -- unreliable data.

                                Last rebill rate I recall quoted by a neutral source was years ago and it was 1.7 -- he was making the case for PPS -- so it may have been biased.

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