ANOUNCEMNET: Movie Anti Hotlinking is Here! - GoFuckYourself.com

x3m · 04-08-2003, 09:15 AM

AHL (AntiHotLinker) from http://www.antihotlinking.com/ is the only working solution to protect movies against hotlinking. There was no way to protect movies correctly until now. AHL (AntiHotLinker) is the ultimate solution everyone was asking for.

Protects all file types (default .asf .wmv .avi .mov .mpg .mpeg .rm)
Protects all your existing documents without any modifications required in these documents.
Does not require any special coding in your HTML documents.
Runs on Unix/Linux server at the Apache level with minimal server load and memory usage.
Supports unlimited number of domains (virtual hosts).
TGP compliant. Works with all known TGP scripts.
Gives full control of the hotlinking traffic. You can redirect it to you favorite destination.

You will make your investment back in no time by redirecting hotlinkers to your sponsors.

PUT A CONDOM ON YOUR BANDWIDTH - http://www.antihotlinking.com/

P.S. I will be glad to answer any of your questions here. Everyone is also welcome to contact us at [email protected] or ICQ 78198034

Seb From Holland · 04-08-2003, 09:32 AM

"PUT A CONDOM ON YOUR BANDWIDTH"

goBigtime · 04-08-2003, 09:46 AM

We have setup a demo gallery http://www.antihotlinking.com/demo/gallery.html with a movie clip http://www.antihotlinking.com/demo/demo.mpg The time frame is set to 3 minutes. Please keep in mind that after you will visit the gallery where this movie is linked from, you will be able to download this movie in absolutely any way for 3 minutes.

What if the users have cookies disabled?

Will those users still be able to view movie files?

goBigtime · 04-08-2003, 09:49 AM

Ah I see... you use approved ref urls to create an entry to allow an IP for x mins.

x3m · 04-08-2003, 09:56 AM

No just ref URLs. The user is authorised to view movies when he hit the allowed document type, i.e. .html

Brujah · 04-08-2003, 10:01 AM

Is it an apache module ?

foe · 04-08-2003, 10:08 AM

Lol this is very simple to do wiht either php or .htaccess

nevermind · 04-08-2003, 10:26 AM

Kinda pricey at $249 ...

XXXWebhosting has hotlinking protection (and some copy protection) on wmv streams for a basic $50 virtual hosting account ...

So I think I'll stick with that.

x3m · 04-08-2003, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah
Is it an apache module ?

It is not an apache module. It is a C program running on apache level.

playa · 04-08-2003, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by foe
Lol this is very simple to do wiht either php or .htaccess

HUH? please do share,, all the experts said its really hard

SGS · 04-08-2003, 10:38 AM

This program stops .mpg files being hotlinked?

x3m · 04-08-2003, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SGS
This program stops .mpg files being hotlinked?

AHL protects all file types. And as compared to the "wmv streams" protection mentioned earlier, AHL protects streams and downloads. You can post your movies safely to TGPs. It's working perfectly with all TGP scrips including Brownie.

quiet · 04-08-2003, 10:47 AM

is it a per server license?

x3m · 04-08-2003, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
is it a per server license?

Yes, it is. 1 (one) license for 1 (one) physical server, but you can protect an unlimited number of domains (virtual hosts) on that server.

goBigtime · 04-08-2003, 10:58 AM

Source code available?

I wouldn't put shit on my production servers that I didn't have source available for

tellmeyes · 04-08-2003, 11:02 AM

looks interesting
any positive comments from these who is already using?

x3m · 04-08-2003, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tellmeyes
looks interesting
any positive comments from these who is already using?

On every page of http://www.antihotlinking.com/

and a lot more in my saved email exchanges and my ICQ history.

tellmeyes · 04-08-2003, 11:17 AM

Quote:

System Requirements
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Dedicated server with root access privileges.
FreeBSD or Linux operating system.

SunOS is not supported?

woj · 04-08-2003, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by foe
Lol this is very simple to do wiht either php or .htaccess

Like Foe pointed out, it's quite simple to do. It's nowhere close to a $250 script.

5 minutes of my time, and here is something very similar:
try viewing it hotlinked: http://www.wojfun.com/mov/mov1.mpg

then go to the gallery and view it:
http://www.wojfun.com/movie.html

goBigtime · 04-08-2003, 11:28 AM

I'm sort of in zombie mode right now... so maybe thats why I'm not understanding how hotlinking protection for pics and movies (served from your gallery pages) would be any different?

For example....

RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://w*\.*yoursite.com
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://w*\.*sitesIP
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://w*\.*yourothersite.com
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://w*\.*otherIP
RewriteRule .*[Jj][Pp][Gg]$|.*[Gg][Ii][Ff]$|.*[Mm][Pp][Gg]$
http://www.gofuckyourself.com [R,L]

or

RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^$
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://www.yoursite.com [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://yoursite.com [NC]
RewriteRule .*[Jj][Pp][Gg]$|.*[Gg][Ii][Ff]$|.*[Mm][Pp][Gg]$
http://www.gofuckyourself.com [R,L]

woj · 04-08-2003, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by goBigtime
I'm sort of in zombie mode right now... so maybe thats why I'm not understanding how hotlinking protection for pics and movies (served from your gallery pages) would be any different?

Pics are viewed with a browser, which sends referer info. Movies are viewed with a movie player which doesn't send referer info. And since most common hotlinking protection is based on referer (just checks if referer is your domain), normal referer based protection doesn't work on movies.

goBigtime · 04-08-2003, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by woj

Pics are viewed with a browser, which sends referer info. Movies are viewed with a movie player which doesn't send referer info. And since most common hotlinking protection is based on referer (just checks if referer is your domain), normal referer based protection doesn't work on movies.

So why not keep your movies locked up in the browser?

quiet · 04-08-2003, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by goBigtime
I'm sort of in zombie mode right now... so maybe thats why I'm not understanding how hotlinking protection for pics and movies (served from your gallery pages) would be any different?

For example....

RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://w*\.*yoursite.com
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://w*\.*sitesIP
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://w*\.*yourothersite.com
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://w*\.*otherIP
RewriteRule .*[Jj][Pp][Gg]$|.*[Gg][Ii][Ff]$|.*[Mm][Pp][Gg]$
http://www.gofuckyourself.com [R,L]

or

RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^$
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://www.yoursite.com [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://yoursite.com [NC]
RewriteRule .*[Jj][Pp][Gg]$|.*[Gg][Ii][Ff]$|.*[Mm][Pp][Gg]$
http://www.gofuckyourself.com [R,L]

wmp doesn't send a referer

goBigtime · 04-08-2003, 11:38 AM

Yeah I get it now.

When you hit the gallery page (or maybe when you request the movie) it will authrozie that IP for awhile to hotlink... providing the ip was first put in the db because the user came from an authrozied referring url.

Makes sense.

x3m · 04-08-2003, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by woj

Like Foe pointed out, it's quite simple to do. It's nowhere close to a $250 script.

5 minutes of my time, and here is something very similar:
try viewing it hotlinked: http://www.wojfun.com/mov/mov1.mpg

then go to the gallery and view it:
http://www.wojfun.com/movie.html

That's where the fun begins.

Can you put it on unlimited domains (say 1000 virtual hosts) on your server and make sure it will hold the load?

I am not saying you can't, just wondering if you attempted it yet?

goBigtime · 04-08-2003, 11:43 AM

I guess he probably uses AddHandler directive to shoot all movie files requests through his software...

on a side note... isn't it funny how people always assume people are male?

Ok I'll hush up.

x3m · 04-08-2003, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tellmeyes

SunOS is not supported?

Please get in touch with me and we will be able to do it for you. We have some questions about your setup before having AHL installed on SunOS.

Thank you.

muchmoreporn · 04-08-2003, 12:56 PM

I have purchased x3m script and it is doing the job perfect. ive been doing mpg galleries for 3 years now and dealt with hotlinkers for all them years, believe me its not that easy to stop hotlinkers, if it was so easy you think ppl would have bitched for years and you guys would of sold us the 5 min script for 250 bucks. i couldnt care less how long it took him to write this script i know for a fact it works extremly well, my bandwidth drop down by 50% thats 2k a month saving. this guy saved my ass.

A must have if your worried about being hotlinked.

x3m · 04-09-2003, 02:03 AM

Thank you, muchmoreporn.

mike503 · 04-09-2003, 02:49 AM

if it's IP-based how does it handle AOL proxies and such, with the IPs changing constantly? i guess this method assumes that the IP will be the same for a couple minutes.

perhaps the request won't use AOL's oddball proxy network since it is a direct request from the media player. but just a thought.

x3m · 04-09-2003, 03:13 AM

mike503,

AHL is not just IP based. There are many other things taken into the algorithm.

As far as constantly changing AOL proxies... Obviously we are aware of this issue and we made a few things to ensure that AOL surfers will be treated correctly. Let me know if I really have to go into the details to explain how it works.

Muff · 04-09-2003, 03:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by x3m
mike503,

AHL is not just IP based. There are many other things taken into the algorithm.

As far as constantly changing AOL proxies... Obviously we are aware of this issue and we made a few things to ensure that AOL surfers will be treated correctly. Let me know if I really have to go into the details to explain how it works.

Please go into detail

Sounds like a good product.

x3m · 04-09-2003, 04:44 AM

OK, let's go into some details

The idea of AHL is to make sure that the only way to watch movies is to request them from the page they are posted on in any way of form, such as

1. left click
2. right click + save target as
3. copy / paste into the new window
4. copy paste into the player
5. have it streamed using ActiveX

AND to prevent requesting movies in any other way or form that will allow downloading or playing the movie without visiting the document where this movie was intended to be played or downloaded from (hotlinking)

Another concern was to make this process independent from the user settings, such as hahahahahahahahahaha and Cookie On/OFF settings

back to AOL ...

There are many cases when there can be the IP change on the user's end. Not just with AOL proxies.

1. AOL proxies
2. Dial-up users who get disconnected while visiting your gallery page and reconnected with a different IP
3. User will deliberately put in a proxy server into his browser
and so on...

We have am algorithm that establishes a session with the user when there was a first hit to the protected domain. Depending on the way this hit was made, we tag this user as either a hotlinker or as a legitimate surfer. Further on, we monitor all his activity to make sure that if he arrived as a legitimate user, all his consecutive steps are recorder and his session parameters are upgraded to maintain this status.

If there is an event when a legitimate user with all the parameters, but the IP is detected, we add the new IP to his session and upgrade his session with the new parameters.

I hope this answers the question and gives you more details how AHL works.

SR · 04-09-2003, 04:47 AM

I find it pretty much money for the script.
A friend of me has setup something similar.
Works with session ideas or so I believe.
I dunno all the details but the protection works 100% and he said it was quite easy to build.

x3m · 04-09-2003, 05:21 AM

As far as money...

We have been developing and testing AHL for the last 3+ months. Not to mention that we pay for ads on GFY and other places. We believe the price is fair.

All, I repeat, ALL our customers report great savings on bandwidth with AHL.

Remember, it does not only save your bandwidth, it also allows you to redirect hotlinkers to dialers, "for free sponsors" and even TGPs to increase trades and build bookmarkers. One client of ours makes $100+ per day just from that on his 50-70 mbps server. I will ask him if I can post his response from my ICQ history and will post it here later.

As far as "quite easy to build"

I am not saying it's impossible - we did it - some people can do it too.

Somehow, I did not find such a script in the last two years that I post movies and had to hire a programmer to do it. The idea to sell it came in when I saw how great AHL works for me.

So, if you can get it from your friend - get it. If it's worth your time and money - hire someone to do it for you and then test it on your own traffic to find all the bugs. If you want to PUT A CONDOM ON YOUR BANDWIDTH

and REDIRECT HOTLINKERS TO SPONSORS today - get AHL

jollyperv · 04-09-2003, 05:29 AM

I better get this shit before it costs 3 grand

justsexxx · 04-09-2003, 05:30 AM

I used it and it is good....Funny thing is hotlinkers do think they can hotlink you because them have hit the HTML once....They post the direct links to mpg

My first week I had

Hotlink Movie Requests: 525925

So pretty much huh

Andre

justsexxx · 04-09-2003, 05:31 AM

OH BTW, my host offers php protection as well, and it worked great, but only problem is/was that Brownie didn't accept the gallery because no cookie could be set to it...

Andre

funkmaster · 04-09-2003, 05:42 AM

"I find it pretty much money for the script. "

... without having it tested myself, if it´s working it´s a good price, in fact it´s cheap ... to bad we´ve spent much more money on getting the ISAPI modul modified ... damn it !!

playa · 04-09-2003, 05:58 AM

i like to hear some more testimonials

Jizar II · 04-09-2003, 06:12 AM

I don't see why anyone think this is expensive.. I would say it's a fair price! How to stop movie hotlinking has been the topic of many threads on GFY and the outcome has always been the same - No one had a working solution that didn't require cookies or wasn't dependable on using a specific host.

X3M - Good luck with it

jimmyf · 04-09-2003, 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jizar II
I don't see why anyone think this is expensive.. I would say it's a fair price! How to stop movie hotlinking has been the topic of many threads on GFY and the outcome has always been the same - No one had a working solution that didn't require cookies or wasn't dependable on using a specific host.

X3M - Good luck with it

and $ 250.00 you movie people will make that back quick, get to sleep good at night also.

Ray@TastyDollars · 04-09-2003, 07:13 AM

If this thing does what he sais it does and TGP srcrips accept the gallery, AND if does not mess up causing your posted gallery to 404. Its dam cheap at the price!!

x3m · 04-09-2003, 07:13 AM

justsexxx, Jizar II, jimmyf, thank you for the good words!

I am glad that there are people on this board who understand the value of AHL.

You will think that I am joking, but we started selling AHL at $199.00 last month and we increased the price after many our clients told us that they would pay a lot more for it, after seeing how it works.

Unfortunately, I cannot set up a trial with our current cc processor, but if I will find a way, I think I will increase the price of the full version.

x3m · 04-09-2003, 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ray
If this thing does what he sais it does and TGP srcrips accept the gallery, AND if does not mess up causing your posted gallery to 404. Its dam cheap at the price!!

I have setup a gallery http://www.antihotlinking.com/demo/demogallery.html protected by AHL if yuo want to test submit it to any TGP, such as the most detailed TGP script - Brownie.

WARNING: Do not confirm the submission, if you will decide to submit this gallery to the TGP that you have no control of. We don't want to get someone like Worldsex.com get pissed at us.

We have out galleries protected by AHL on all major TGP's and MGP's. It's 100% compatible with all TGP scripts.

----------

This is Brownie submission results for the above gallery

Please be patient
We are checking your gallery

http://www.antihotlinking.com/demo/demogallery.html... OK
Reciprocal link...NOT FOUND
http://www.antihotlinking.com/demo/demo01.mpg... OK (348 kb)
http://www.antihotlinking.com/demo/demo02.mpg... OK (348 kb)
http://www.antihotlinking.com/demo/demo03.mpg... OK (348 kb)
http://www.antihotlinking.com/demo/demo04.mpg... OK (348 kb)
http://www.antihotlinking.com/demo/demo05.mpg... OK (348 kb)
http://www.antihotlinking.com/demo/demo06.mpg... OK (348 kb)

Thank you Max Artamonoff

Your submission:

URL: http://www.antihotlinking.com/demo/demogallery.html
Category: Movies
Video: 6

Ray@TastyDollars · 04-09-2003, 07:40 AM

Thats cool. However im a little concerned because about a month ago someone linked me to your site, I clicked the gallery and when I click a movie it redirected to Google. What was that about? I remember reading something about some delay or somthing to that nature.

x3m · 04-09-2003, 07:47 AM

If you tried to hotlink a movie first and then went to the gallery, your browser probably cached the denied URL. Actually, we have a setting right now which will either let the browser to cache that deny URL or not to cache it, depending on your needs.

Ray@TastyDollars · 04-09-2003, 08:07 AM

Ahh, gotcha. Well, what else can I say except.. It Looks Good!

codemebaby · 04-09-2003, 09:12 AM

Why does it seem that with my tests, the referer checking built into thttpd seems to work fine with windows media player...Not saying thttpds internal hotlink protection is exactly the same as a modrewrite rule, but apache sucks anyway.

Does this thing even work without apache? I have too much traffic to use apache without load sharing, and since I can use thttpd and not do load sharing...this leaves my other machines free for different tasks, so switching back to apache would be out of the question

nevermind · 04-09-2003, 09:19 AM

Just my personal opinion, but I wouldn't want IP based hotlinking protection, especially now that AOL users IP addresses change while they're still online (and I'm not talking about proxies)

Apparently AOL has done this recently because they've run out of IP addresses --- setting off all kinds of password and security thresholds for legit customers and causing major headaches for a lot of sites.

IMHO, time stamped urls are still the best way to go if you want to prevent hotlinking. Granted, I've only seen it with streams, but lots of adult sites use it and it helps prevent a lot of copying as well.

04-08-2003, 09:15 AM	#1
x3m Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 254	ANOUNCEMNET: Movie Anti Hotlinking is Here! AHL (AntiHotLinker) from http://www.antihotlinking.com/ is the only working solution to protect movies against hotlinking. There was no way to protect movies correctly until now. AHL (AntiHotLinker) is the ultimate solution everyone was asking for. Protects all file types (default .asf .wmv .avi .mov .mpg .mpeg .rm) Protects all your existing documents without any modifications required in these documents. Does not require any special coding in your HTML documents. Runs on Unix/Linux server at the Apache level with minimal server load and memory usage. Supports unlimited number of domains (virtual hosts). TGP compliant. Works with all known TGP scripts. Gives full control of the hotlinking traffic. You can redirect it to you favorite destination. You will make your investment back in no time by redirecting hotlinkers to your sponsors. PUT A CONDOM ON YOUR BANDWIDTH - http://www.antihotlinking.com/ P.S. I will be glad to answer any of your questions here. Everyone is also welcome to contact us at [email protected] or ICQ 78198034

04-08-2003, 10:01 AM	#6
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	Is it an apache module ? __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

04-08-2003, 10:38 AM	#11
SGS Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mallorca - Nottingham Posts: 5,176	This program stops .mpg files being hotlinked? __________________ See sig...

04-08-2003, 11:28 AM	#20
goBigtime Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 7,761	I'm sort of in zombie mode right now... so maybe thats why I'm not understanding how hotlinking protection for pics and movies (served from your gallery pages) would be any different? For example.... RewriteEngine on RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://w\.yoursite.com RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://w\.sitesIP RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://w\.yourothersite.com RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://w\.otherIP RewriteRule .[Jj][Pp][Gg]$\|.[Gg][Ii][Ff]$\|.[Mm][Pp][Gg]$ http://www.gofuckyourself.com [R,L] or RewriteEngine on RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^$ RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://www.yoursite.com [NC] RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://yoursite.com [NC] RewriteRule .[Jj][Pp][Gg]$\|.[Gg][Ii][Ff]$\|.[Mm][Pp][Gg]$ http://www.gofuckyourself.com [R,L] Last edited by goBigtime; 04-08-2003 at 11:33 AM..

04-08-2003, 12:56 PM	#28
muchmoreporn Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 784	I have purchased x3m script and it is doing the job perfect. ive been doing mpg galleries for 3 years now and dealt with hotlinkers for all them years, believe me its not that easy to stop hotlinkers, if it was so easy you think ppl would have bitched for years and you guys would of sold us the 5 min script for 250 bucks. i couldnt care less how long it took him to write this script i know for a fact it works extremly well, my bandwidth drop down by 50% thats 2k a month saving. this guy saved my ass. A must have if your worried about being hotlinked. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

04-08-2003, 09:32 AM	#2
Seb From Holland Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,747	"PUT A CONDOM ON YOUR BANDWIDTH"

04-08-2003, 09:46 AM	#3
goBigtime Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 7,761	We have setup a demo gallery http://www.antihotlinking.com/demo/gallery.html with a movie clip http://www.antihotlinking.com/demo/demo.mpg The time frame is set to 3 minutes. Please keep in mind that after you will visit the gallery where this movie is linked from, you will be able to download this movie in absolutely any way for 3 minutes. What if the users have cookies disabled? Will those users still be able to view movie files?

04-08-2003, 09:49 AM	#4
goBigtime Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 7,761	Ah I see... you use approved ref urls to create an entry to allow an IP for x mins.

04-08-2003, 09:56 AM	#5
x3m Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 254	No just ref URLs. The user is authorised to view movies when he hit the allowed document type, i.e. .html

04-08-2003, 10:08 AM	#7
foe Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: CT Posts: 5,246	Lol this is very simple to do wiht either php or .htaccess

04-08-2003, 10:26 AM	#8
nevermind Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 276	Kinda pricey at $249 ... XXXWebhosting has hotlinking protection (and some copy protection) on wmv streams for a basic $50 virtual hosting account ... So I think I'll stick with that.

04-08-2003, 10:47 AM	#13
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	is it a per server license?

04-08-2003, 10:58 AM	#15
goBigtime Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 7,761	Source code available? I wouldn't put shit on my production servers that I didn't have source available for

04-08-2003, 11:02 AM	#16
tellmeyes Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 55	looks interesting any positive comments from these who is already using?

04-08-2003, 11:38 AM	#24
goBigtime Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 7,761	Yeah I get it now. When you hit the gallery page (or maybe when you request the movie) it will authrozie that IP for awhile to hotlink... providing the ip was first put in the db because the user came from an authrozied referring url. Makes sense.

04-08-2003, 11:43 AM	#26
goBigtime Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 7,761	I guess he probably uses AddHandler directive to shoot all movie files requests through his software... on a side note... isn't it funny how people always assume people are male? Ok I'll hush up.

04-09-2003, 02:03 AM	#29
x3m Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 254	Thank you, muchmoreporn.

04-09-2003, 02:49 AM	#30
mike503 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: oregon. Posts: 2,243	if it's IP-based how does it handle AOL proxies and such, with the IPs changing constantly? i guess this method assumes that the IP will be the same for a couple minutes. perhaps the request won't use AOL's oddball proxy network since it is a direct request from the media player. but just a thought. __________________ php/mysql guru. hosting, coding, all that jazz.

04-09-2003, 03:13 AM	#31
x3m Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 254	mike503, AHL is not just IP based. There are many other things taken into the algorithm. As far as constantly changing AOL proxies... Obviously we are aware of this issue and we made a few things to ensure that AOL surfers will be treated correctly. Let me know if I really have to go into the details to explain how it works.

04-09-2003, 04:44 AM	#33
x3m Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 254	OK, let's go into some details The idea of AHL is to make sure that the only way to watch movies is to request them from the page they are posted on in any way of form, such as 1. left click 2. right click + save target as 3. copy / paste into the new window 4. copy paste into the player 5. have it streamed using ActiveX AND to prevent requesting movies in any other way or form that will allow downloading or playing the movie without visiting the document where this movie was intended to be played or downloaded from (hotlinking) Another concern was to make this process independent from the user settings, such as hahahahahahahahahaha and Cookie On/OFF settings back to AOL ... There are many cases when there can be the IP change on the user's end. Not just with AOL proxies. 1. AOL proxies 2. Dial-up users who get disconnected while visiting your gallery page and reconnected with a different IP 3. User will deliberately put in a proxy server into his browser and so on... We have am algorithm that establishes a session with the user when there was a first hit to the protected domain. Depending on the way this hit was made, we tag this user as either a hotlinker or as a legitimate surfer. Further on, we monitor all his activity to make sure that if he arrived as a legitimate user, all his consecutive steps are recorder and his session parameters are upgraded to maintain this status. If there is an event when a legitimate user with all the parameters, but the IP is detected, we add the new IP to his session and upgrade his session with the new parameters. I hope this answers the question and gives you more details how AHL works.

04-09-2003, 04:47 AM	#34
SR Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,239	I find it pretty much money for the script. A friend of me has setup something similar. Works with session ideas or so I believe. I dunno all the details but the protection works 100% and he said it was quite easy to build.

04-09-2003, 05:21 AM	#35
x3m Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 254	As far as money... We have been developing and testing AHL for the last 3+ months. Not to mention that we pay for ads on GFY and other places. We believe the price is fair. All, I repeat, ALL our customers report great savings on bandwidth with AHL. Remember, it does not only save your bandwidth, it also allows you to redirect hotlinkers to dialers, "for free sponsors" and even TGPs to increase trades and build bookmarkers. One client of ours makes $100+ per day just from that on his 50-70 mbps server. I will ask him if I can post his response from my ICQ history and will post it here later. As far as "quite easy to build" I am not saying it's impossible - we did it - some people can do it too. Somehow, I did not find such a script in the last two years that I post movies and had to hire a programmer to do it. The idea to sell it came in when I saw how great AHL works for me. So, if you can get it from your friend - get it. If it's worth your time and money - hire someone to do it for you and then test it on your own traffic to find all the bugs. If you want to PUT A CONDOM ON YOUR BANDWIDTH and REDIRECT HOTLINKERS TO SPONSORS today - get AHL

04-09-2003, 05:29 AM	#36
jollyperv Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NYC Posts: 3,927	I better get this shit before it costs 3 grand

04-09-2003, 05:30 AM	#37
justsexxx Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 13,723	I used it and it is good....Funny thing is hotlinkers do think they can hotlink you because them have hit the HTML once....They post the direct links to mpg My first week I had Hotlink Movie Requests: 525925 So pretty much huh Andre __________________ Questions? ICQ: 125184542

04-09-2003, 05:31 AM	#38
justsexxx Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 13,723	OH BTW, my host offers php protection as well, and it worked great, but only problem is/was that Brownie didn't accept the gallery because no cookie could be set to it... Andre __________________ Questions? ICQ: 125184542

04-09-2003, 05:42 AM	#39
funkmaster So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: shell beach Posts: 7,938	"I find it pretty much money for the script. " ... without having it tested myself, if it´s working it´s a good price, in fact it´s cheap ... to bad we´ve spent much more money on getting the ISAPI modul modified ... damn it !!

04-09-2003, 05:58 AM	#40
playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	i like to hear some more testimonials

04-09-2003, 06:12 AM	#41
Jizar II Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: LLL© Posts: 1,425	I don't see why anyone think this is expensive.. I would say it's a fair price! How to stop movie hotlinking has been the topic of many threads on GFY and the outcome has always been the same - No one had a working solution that didn't require cookies or wasn't dependable on using a specific host. X3M - Good luck with it

04-09-2003, 07:13 AM	#43
Ray@TastyDollars www.TastyDollars.com Join Date: May 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 6,797	If this thing does what he sais it does and TGP srcrips accept the gallery, AND if does not mess up causing your posted gallery to 404. Its dam cheap at the price!! __________________ The nets best interracial and cuckold site The nets hottest teen site ICQ me: 161 375 873

04-09-2003, 07:40 AM	#46
Ray@TastyDollars www.TastyDollars.com Join Date: May 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 6,797	Thats cool. However im a little concerned because about a month ago someone linked me to your site, I clicked the gallery and when I click a movie it redirected to Google. What was that about? I remember reading something about some delay or somthing to that nature. __________________ The nets best interracial and cuckold site The nets hottest teen site ICQ me: 161 375 873

04-09-2003, 07:47 AM	#47
x3m Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 254	If you tried to hotlink a movie first and then went to the gallery, your browser probably cached the denied URL. Actually, we have a setting right now which will either let the browser to cache that deny URL or not to cache it, depending on your needs.

04-09-2003, 08:07 AM	#48
Ray@TastyDollars www.TastyDollars.com Join Date: May 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 6,797	Ahh, gotcha. Well, what else can I say except.. It Looks Good! __________________ The nets best interracial and cuckold site The nets hottest teen site ICQ me: 161 375 873

04-09-2003, 09:12 AM	#49
codemebaby Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Spokane WA and Vancouver BC Posts: 93	Why does it seem that with my tests, the referer checking built into thttpd seems to work fine with windows media player...Not saying thttpds internal hotlink protection is exactly the same as a modrewrite rule, but apache sucks anyway. Does this thing even work without apache? I have too much traffic to use apache without load sharing, and since I can use thttpd and not do load sharing...this leaves my other machines free for different tasks, so switching back to apache would be out of the question __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

04-09-2003, 09:19 AM	#50
nevermind Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 276	Just my personal opinion, but I wouldn't want IP based hotlinking protection, especially now that AOL users IP addresses change while they're still online (and I'm not talking about proxies) Apparently AOL has done this recently because they've run out of IP addresses --- setting off all kinds of password and security thresholds for legit customers and causing major headaches for a lot of sites. IMHO, time stamped urls are still the best way to go if you want to prevent hotlinking. Granted, I've only seen it with streams, but lots of adult sites use it and it helps prevent a lot of copying as well. Last edited by nevermind; 04-09-2003 at 09:21 AM..