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You really bought it all hook line and sinker eh? Was the hole God's portal? If we didn't seal it up by not using hair spray was he going to bust through and send us all to hell? Did you know that less ozone actually means less sunlight? Contrary to that myth.

Even though we disagree a bit, I still like you :thumbsup

Are you an atheist?

No I'm antimyth :thumbsup

So your God will fix everything. You're a God fearing Christian in Tennessee. Or do you not fear God?

Taking this a step further, one could argue that cutting back on big hair actually caused global warming. By sealing up that imaginary God portal we allowed more sunlight and in turn warmed the planet.

Seriously, WTF?

How is this going to work? He is suing himself? Does he have the right to settle his own lawsuit?

Why are you afraid to declare your Christianity? Its not like you're the only Christian here.

When I was a kid, my parents really got me interested in science. My dad and I used to build electronic kits from Etco and Radio Shack together. I learned how to build simple circuits, and how you could get electricity from light.

They also bought me a little chemistry set. I could learn all about chemical reactions, in a safe way of course.

They also bought me a kid-sized telescope, a microscope. It was so cool how I could see the moon as another world, and then look at a grain of sand in a microscope and yet another world, or see life swimming around in a drop of water.

Another toy my Dad bought me was one called "Natures Window". Essentially, it was seeds of different plants that you put into a pitri dish and a clear cone that, when exposed to sunlight, would grow really fast.

I had a weather station too. A couple of instruments outside provided data to let me predict the weather for the next few days (fun!) but taught me all kinds of stuff without realizing it.

Of course, the best gift ever was of my first computer; the ultimate in science-geek-tech.

The coolest thing I learned back then was how all of these things were connected to each other. Light & heat and chemistry and energy and life and how everything can affect everything else, and how it can all be measured with electronics and computers.

I know it's really easy for you to discount real news and real science, especially when it contradicts your own personal beliefs. I urge you though to try not to do this. Science affects you and every single part of the universe. You are missing out on some really cool stuff if you don't take the time to learn about it a little.

Nolts that fall for this Global Warming / Climate Change or whatever the fuck you call it now propaganda have a cradle to grave. inbred hatred of the General Public

News Flash: all Cancer is Self-Healing

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Exactly! :1orglaugh

Just the fact that a guy who sued the EPA is now being put in charge of it just make your head spin. It's like making the leader of the local outlaw biker gang the town sheriff.

It's as if Trump is finding the worst people he can find for each position and saying "this guy is good fit". This will be a giant shit show.

BTW here's your ozone "hole" taken by nasa in Oct 2015. It's natural occurrence. I guess the hairspray trick didn't work.
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I'm not a Christian, I told you I'm antimyth, so I don't believe any religious myths. I can count on 2 fingers the amount of times I've stepped foot in a church in over 25 years and those 2 were for weddings. Even as a child it was very rare. My parents weren't church goers. My grandmother was and it seemed like every time I went there all the preacher could talk about was how the church needed money. My aunt's church had a weird obsession with the show Three's company. They tried to get it banned. lol I loved that show so I obviously hated that church. I use to watch it at their house just to piss them off.

Uh oh your boyfriend Alex Jones disagrees with you.

So who's right? You or Info Wars?

JETS ARE DESTROYING OUR OZONE | Home | Planet Infowars

Geoengineering is Destroying the Ozone Layer 'Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

Ozone hole over Antarctica expands to near-record levels, now four times size of Australia » Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

Those are a joke/poking fun. "Stop geoengineering now" should be a hint.

Geoengineering is Destroying the Ozone Layer » Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

I don't think you read the article. Chemtrails=Geoengineering according to Alex Jones. He's a huge believer in chemtrails and the government spraying us. I've pasted the Info Wars article below for you.

Geoengineering Aerosols Destroy The Ozone Layer

This is not speculation, it is fact. There is a mountain of science data that confirms the ozone decimating effect of sunlight-reflecting particulates in the upper atmosphere. As geoengineering climate modeler Ken Caldeira warned after crunching the numbers for Dr. Edward Teller?s aerosol ?sunscreen?, the resulting rapid cooling of the stratosphere causes the formation of huge ice clouds that attract and concentrate ozone-destroying chemicals.

We have known for some time that the UV levels were getting rapidly worse due to the ongoing atmospheric spraying. Anyone that is even slightly awake and aware has noticed that the sun feels incredibly intense on the skin. Most varieties of plant life are showing at least some signs of stress in most areas. In many regions, whole forests are in steep decline. And it?s getting worse by the day.

Although extreme drought and toxic rains (due in large part to the heavy metal fallout from geoengineering) are taking their toll, recent metering of UV levels in Northern California indicate that there is an element in this die off that is far worse than we had realized, an incomprehensibly high level of UV radiation.
With the assistance of a very generous and conscientious individual, geoengineeringwatch.org purchased top-of-the-line UV metering equipment which was put in the hands of a 40-year environmental metering veteran, with 20 years government experience and 20 years as a private consultant. Our findings are far beyond shocking.

From a recent science study on excessive UV:
We are told UV-B is only a minor component of the total solar radiation, we now know this could not be further from the truth. Our recent metering reflects an exponential rise in UVB radiation. Due to its high energy, its potential for causing biological damage to plants, animals, and humans is exceptionally high and even small increases could lead to significant biological damage. There are numerous peer reviewed studies which verify this fact.

The Results

According to agencies like WHO, (World Heath Organizatin) and a long list of other recognized government sources of UV information like NOAA (National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration), no more than 5% of the total UV reaching the surface of Earth should be UVB. The other 95% should be UVA.
These agencies go on to state that UVC should be ZERO.

What has our testing shown?

UVB ? the most lethal form of UV radiation ? has now escalated to almost 70% of the total UV reaching the surface of our planet. At least this is the case in Northern California. (This can only mean that total Ultra-Violate exposure has also escalated sharply, making overall UVB levels worse still.)
In addition, our testing has consistently shown significant levels of UVC which used to be filtered out by the ozone layer, some 100,000 feet up in our atmosphere.

Not any more.

UV is measured in spectral bandwidths. The higher the bandwidth, the more benign the UV; lower bandwidths are more lethal.
Current testing reveals that almost 70% of incoming UV radiation is currently in the UVB and UVC range. (Not 5% or less, as we are being told by all major agencies and their media mouthpieces).
This translates into nearly a 1,400% increase in UVB as a percentage of total UV. If UVA has also gone up due to the same ozone destruction which has driven up the UVB, this would indicate a likelihood that the total UVB and UVC is higher still ? not just a difference of ratio with the same overall number.
What are the known negative effects of excessive UV exposure to plant life?

The Proof On The Ground

In the forests of Northern California, bark is literally being scorched from trees. On many specimens, only a thin strip of bark remains on the shaded side of the tree. Foliage is being scorched with many trees having only a fraction of their normal leaf cover. Many native species of plants are not even sprouting any more. The organisms that do still manage to grow appear miniaturized in some cases.

What are just some of the results of excessive UV exposure to plants?

Can stop sprouting of seeds, ? Stunts growth, ? Limb die off, ? Reduced foliage, ? DNA damage, ? Changes nutrient distribution, ? Mutatins, ? Effects photosynthesis ? Greatly increased mortality
SOME known effects of excessive UV exposure to aquatic life:
All aquatic life is particularly vulnerable to high UV levels.
Phytoplankton accounts for some 30% of the worlds? intake of animal protein. Phytoplankton and the microorganisms they consume are killed by excessive UV levels. (Global plankton populations have already been reduced by 40% to 50%. Much of the die off is likely due to increased UV radiation.)
Less plankton = less carbon-dioxide absorption.
Less plankton = less oxygen production. (Atmospheric oxygen content around the globe declining rapidly)
Less plankton = less fish. Period.
Bottom line: A crashing plankton population effects the entire food chain and all life on earth.

Excess UV kills coral reefs. So do waters warmed and made acidic by CO2 fallout. (Reefs are the nurseries of many crucial aquatic species and are in sharp decline around the globe.)
SOME of the known effects of excess UV on humans:
? Damaged immune system, ? DNA damage ? Damages sight ? Causes various forms of cancer

Geoengineering Aerosols Destroy The Ozone Layer
This is not speculation, it is fact. There is a mountain of science data that confirms the ozone decimating effect of sunlight-reflecting particulates in the upper atmosphere. As geoengineering climate modeler Ken Caldeira warned after crunching the numbers for Dr. Edward Teller?s aerosol ?sunscreen?, the resulting rapid cooling of the stratosphere causes the formation of huge ice clouds that attract and concentrate ozone-destroying chemicals.
In addition, high nitrogen oxide emissions from fleets of aerosol-spreading jet tanker aircraft ? and more than 93,000 daily airline flights ? directly attack Earth?s protective ozone layer.
Though many of these ?science studies? do not admit geoengineering is already going on, this fact is not hard to confirm for any that do even the slightest investigation.
Numerous references are posted below this article.

At A Crossroad
The gravity of our collective crisis cannot be overstated. Current UV metering makes clear we are now being exposed to dangerously high levels of UV radiation, specifically UVB and UVC.
The metering performed in Northern California, on which this statement is based, was done by a pair of identical state-of-the-art, brand-new, science-grade meters guaranteed to be scientifically calibrated to a range within 4%. As stated earlier in this article, the tech who did this metering is a 40- year veteran in environmental measurement and interpretation.
Here in Northern California, we are already seeing frighteningly visible damage to foliage, trees, and plants. The ramifications of extremely high UV levels to all life forms ? including us ? are grave. As the die-off of other species go, so will we. We are in the 6th Great Mass Extinction ? right here, right now! (References below)
If geoengineering continues unabated, and the ozone layer is completely destroyed, it will be game over for us all. No ozone layer = no life on Earth.
It?s that simple.
Global geoengineering is tearing apart the entire fabric of life on our planet. ? Geoengineering is poisoning our air, waters, and soils. ? Geoengineering is pushing increasingly erratic atmospheric processes resulting from human-propelled climate change past the Chaos threshold into unpredictable, self-reinforcing, cascading events. ? Geoengineering is disrupting the jetstream and all natural weather patterns, which in turn is fueling catastrophic climate feedback loops ? the most dire of which are mass methane hydrate releases from the Arctic tundra and seafloor. ? Geoengineering is destroying the stratospheric solar radiation shielding, which protects all life on Earth.
Alarmism?
Do your own honest investigation and find out.
Global awareness of these lethal programs is rising quickly, but not fast enough. Its up to all of us to help shine the light on this life-or-death issue.
Every day counts.

The article was written by Dane Wigington Geoengineeringwatch.org not Alex Jones.

Alex is a believer in cloud seeding because it's a fact. Who do you think taught China Rain out: China aims to control Olympics weather - USATODAY.com

Artificial storm leave Beijing snowed in

China's Weather Manipulation Brings Crippling Snowstorm to Beijing | Popular Science

Alex Jones posted it on Info Wars because he believes it. There are dozens of these ozone articles on his site.

He thinks the ozone hole is man-made. You think the ozone hole is natural. Who's right?

Based on that article alone and considering it's not a hole and instead a natural thinning coupled with the fact that the ozone doesn't block UVs I would say me.. But honestly I don't know what his personal standing on the matter is. I also don't know how articles are published on his site. Could be pay for play?

Mark,

Science can be great for sure, two science degrees here for top universities, but there's so much evidence that much of the scientific establishment has been compromised.

Our hopelessly compromised scientific establishment cannot be allowed to get away with the Climategate whitewash

Climate change: this is the worst scientific scandal of our generation - Telegraph

And you are comfortable being on the side of Big Oil ?

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Elon Musk will deal with them :2 cents:

Sorry this is not a safe post truth thread. We can all read. :thumbsup

How about a fresh bump for some lively debate!? ;)

I don't think I agree with that. Or maybe I do. Depends on what mood I'm in sometimes.

I do think if we all chose to demand more of ourselves we could absolutely reshape systems of governance at all levels to better serve our needs.

before anyone goes back to the insignificant issue of how long our current modes of living will sustain before killing us I need to make one thing crystal

Alex Jones is MY man and I will cut any bitch who tries to get between us

carry on

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And the power for all the electric cars will come from where ???

Here's why some people are so blind it's easy to fuck them.

If people were taxed 5% more to enable clean energy. That would be good for the people of that country. Clean energy reduces imports of fossil-based fuels, creates jobs in the country and those wages are ploughed back into the economy.

Long term it will reduce the costs of energy. If planned right. US made Solar Panels in the US would solve your problems.



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So why doesn't it happen? The old industries producing energy have bought the decision makers.

See above.

I still can't believe Scott Pruitt is in charge of the EPA! :(

Talking politics is tasteless...

WHat is wrong with Pruitt?

8th old Trump thread bumped by JohnnyClips in the last 30 minutes

JohnnyClips is bumping last month's Trump threads to cover the exessive daily 6-7 Trump spam threads he been creating :-)