this is not true dawgy,
you asked me a few times to pause it, and sometimes just decrease the volume. and i always did what you asked for..
at the end you asked me to completely stop the traffic and these were your almost exact words: "please stop sending traffic because i cannot risk owing you any more money". At that point i stopped it within like 24-36 hours or something..


anyway, i'm writing a response for the rest of the stuff you just wrote, hold on...

I bet this page gets refreshed a zillion times in the next minute or two :1orglaugh

held back? we have been talking about this since the first day you started being late on payments, which is over a year ago. so the twisted *facts* you said below is what you didnt say to my face as you held back?

in december you have promised me you were gonna start paying me in smaller amounths, like $500 every 2 weeks, which was fine with me. i didnt ask you for the whole 15k all at once, even though it is so long overdue.

first, get some facts straight ok?

you have told me to pause or decrease the traffic a couple times for short periods, and every single time i did what you asked me to do. i never forced you an amount you didnt ask for. at the end you asked me to completely stop the traffic and these were your almost exact words: "please stop sending traffic because i cannot risk owing you any more money". At that point i stopped it within like 24-36 hours or something.. this a fact.

we were both filtering the unwanted traffic, and i contacted the site owners when i found their contact info.. yes, i have no control over their sites and i did my best on blocking them.. besides i was giving you the traffic for the half price of what i sold to other people and you're still talking about the bad quality of traffic. i even dropped the price half way through to help you.

about you losing money and not converting the traffic:
it was coming from thousands of different websites and you suddenly started telling me you stopped converting overnight.. and you looked for the reason on me and on my traffic... the quality of the traffic cannot possibly change overnigt, i told you thousand times.. how come you didnt suspect your sponsors as much as you suspected me? i dont get it.. you were using sponsors like ifriends and you sure as hell know about the bad experiences some people had with them and you still wanna blame me that you lost money on this?

you even told you were gonna try other sponsors and start "gambling" with the traffic hoping start making profit again. its my fault i let you do that and stay behind on payments, but it doesnt justify your situation.


you never told me such reasons for being late on payments.
maybe you were getting fucked in terms of losing money but you cannot blame me into this. i only blame myself for letting you keep playing with the traffic even though i knew you were losing money.. but then again i never forced you to do so.. you asked for it, you agreed to buy more and more... it is not true that i sent you traffic when u asked me not to.. if i have been late on pausing it once or twice, it was a matter of hours or a day, which doesnt come anywhere close to $15k worth of traffic. you were 2 months behind on payments!


i dont know him either.


i dont have your phone#.

i added you to my buddy list on gfy, and i bumped this thread only every time i saw you online there.. you do post here everyday and thats why i expected you to see it since my icq messages magically disappeared even though it worked thousand times before when we used to talked there..


i talked to you face to face on Internext, remember? i even hung out with you there for a while even though i was surrounded with gay people instead i could be hanging out with pornstar chicks (no offense there).. you have told me to send you my payment info after the show and you were gonna start paying, remember that too?.. i even gave you my paypal info again a while ago.. but i havent heard a thing from you since then..


in short, you have agreed to pay me... i even agreed you could do that in smaller amounts over time.. if you dont keep these promises, do you think i am supposed to leave you alone... if i get the feeling you are hiding from me, i am not supposed wonder whats your intension?

i expect you to start paying dawgy but its not like i'm pointing a gun in your head.. i have waited over a year now. imagine how someone else would react in my situation.. i've been extremely nice to you about this.

be a man, pay it up. dont hurt your reputation.

I'd say his reputation is plenty hurt after this stunt.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

lol, seriously we're cool personally.. but this business deal has to be taken care of.

anyway, i'm beat
cya tomorrow

Dawgy, the whole point of buying traffic like this is that you take a risk - Lane risks that he might get less cash than he would have got if he sent it direct to a sponsor, and you risk that you might pay more than the traffic is actually worth. Buying traffic per click rather than by productivity is always a gamble - and you shouldn't gamble more than you can afford to lose.

But can't you guys reach a compromise? If it was really child porn traffic, Lane shouldn't be charging for that. Dawgy: why don?t you offer to pay something at least ? the traffic must have been worth something.

only a very small % was coming from sites that have cp related words in their urls (like lolita etc, which is not illegal), and very few of them actually had cp description on their pages.. once he started sending it directly to a blindlink sponsor, they started to complain about a couple of those url's, just because they were there, not because any significant amount of traffic was coming from them..

believe me, the price was right. right now its even higher and i have happy customers. if it was easy to convert with sponsors, i wouldnt be selling it in the first place. but it can have many other usefull purposes like feeding tgp's etc.. but he stopped feeding his huge tgp, which he started out with, and decided sending directly to sponsor pages.. it was his decision and he started losing money along the way.. even though i blame myself for not refusing to sell him when started saying that he was losing money, he simply didnt wanna stop trying, because at the beginning , he had really high profit margin and he was expecting to get back there.. i really suspect his sponsors for the sudden drop in signups.. some days he was talking about 50+ signups...it still surprises me that the money he made those days didnt cover his losses.. anyway, the thing is, he was always falling behind on making payments, but he was making them eventually..we worked on this for over 4 months.. but he completely stopped sending money the day he also decided to stop receiving traffic.. at that point he was $15k behind..

fucking unbelievable.

WOOF WOOF, where my dawgs at? :glugglug

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Dawgy is full of shit - there is no such thing as CP CJ's

I think if you buy the skim traffic of a free traffic trade script then
you should know that not all traffic is gold and that there will be
some rotten apples amongst what you buy.

The price of such traffic is adapted to that fact. If you are unsure
if you can make money with this traffic.....READ AS: If you are not
sure that YOU have the ability to make money of it. You should
buy a few test batches first.

The fact that he´s $15K in debt means that he bought a LOT
and for a longer period of time. So the excuses Dawgy is using
do NOT sound credible to say the least.

So my advice is start paying your bill even if it´s only little by little.
Lame excuses of not having money are bullshit if your still online
each and every day posting on GFY.

Get a job, earn money and pay up you should be glad no further
action has been taken yet.....if I were you I would make some
agreement now before Lane really starts to lose his patience.

DynaMite

You never stole money? Why did you leave ARS again? Something about money being diverted into your webmaster account while you were an employee? Ring any bells?

If you have an allegation to make, why not just make it?

Yes, there are... http://rapeisland.com/ And you can thank the wonderful Russian Webmasters for these kinds of sites =/

:(

eeeerribit where my frogs at?

I'm pretty sure that's what just happened up there :1orglaugh

that one runs ttt... not cj ultra. nice try though.

ALl I can say is that I have purchased some traffic from lane for a project and not only was the traffic delivered timely, he also went an extra step and filtered the traffic for me at no extra charge.

I'd gladly use his traffic to bump up a tgp or such in the future :)

Geez, I'm really out of the loop...I had no idea he left...Well, I like Dawgy! What a cutie! :)

heh, Lane's so hot, I may have him move in with me.

he's mine, cunt!

Hey WTF...you ask me to marry you then shack up with that geek?:feels-hot

you never answered my desperate calls for luv. so I had to choose. :(

I personally purchase over 1000 of traffic from lane at one time

Damn...this thread is making my nipples hard.
Come rub them for me.
:Graucho