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  • Paul Markham
    Too old to care
    • Jun 2001
    • 52942

    #1

    A way for paysites to increase sales.

    Sex sellsls, the stats on the numbers buying it prove that. When I sell and buy I mean a consumer wants to get pleasure, goes to a pornsite and consumes porn. Because of the way this industry had dedicated itself to pleasuring so many to get a percentage buying is this industries fault. It insisted a 1% conversion rate was acceptable, and now only bitched because it's 0.0001% or whatever it is.

    A few years ago there were TV shows about behind the scenes on a big porn. The TV crew would follow porn cast and crew to the location and film behind the scenes footage. Models at play, resting, interviews etc. This is an excellent way to sell the performers and the movies. It's softcore so no problem putting it on FB, Vimeo and linking to blogs.

    The catch is having people capable of motivating models to be seductive enough to make surfers want to pay for the movies. There will be a fallout to piracy. Only an idiot would put the hardcore version on a porn Tube.

    Another catch is most are clueless how to do this. I did it back in the 90s and sold it to Cable TV in the UK, took some planning and thinking. The good thing is this will provide hours and hours of promotional content that's engaging the viewer. Who will want to see the hardcore version.



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  • Mediamix
    Dutch Webmaster!
    • Sep 2013
    • 3228

    #2
    Here we go again! Let's all sit by the fireplace, because grandpa is telling stories.
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    • yuu.design
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      • Mar 2006
      • 25924

      #3
      sounds interesting
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      • Brian mike
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        • Oct 2014
        • 8735

        #4
        Originally posted by Mediamix
        Here we go again! Let's all sit by the fireplace, because grandpa is telling stories.
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        • Struggle4Bucks
          Sieg Hi!
          • May 2011
          • 3615

          #5
          Originally posted by Paul Markham
          Sex sellsls, the stats on the numbers buying it prove that. When I sell and buy I mean a consumer wants to get pleasure, goes to a pornsite and consumes porn. Because of the way this industry had dedicated itself to pleasuring so many to get a percentage buying is this industries fault. It insisted a 1% conversion rate was acceptable, and now only bitched because it's 0.0001% or whatever it is.

          A few years ago there were TV shows about behind the scenes on a big porn. The TV crew would follow porn cast and crew to the location and film behind the scenes footage. Models at play, resting, interviews etc. This is an excellent way to sell the performers and the movies. It's softcore so no problem putting it on FB, Vimeo and linking to blogs.

          The catch is having people capable of motivating models to be seductive enough to make surfers want to pay for the movies. There will be a fallout to piracy. Only an idiot would put the hardcore version on a porn Tube.

          Another catch is most are clueless how to do this. I did it back in the 90s and sold it to Cable TV in the UK, took some planning and thinking. The good thing is this will provide hours and hours of promotional content that's engaging the viewer. Who will want to see the hardcore version.
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          • Barry-xlovecam
            It's 42
            • Jun 2010
            • 18083

            #6
            • I just bought Amazon Prime (finally) mainly for the streaming videos
            • I have had a Netflix subscription for 3 years now
            • If I was a 'pornophile' I would want a 'pornstream.' service for $10.99 /mo too


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            • Struggle4Bucks
              Sieg Hi!
              • May 2011
              • 3615

              #7
              We're half through the day so i quess mister Markham is taking his retirement-nap...

              We are all waiting in the reception room for him to come back to inform us...
              (Paul... that was sarcasm... but i know your autism prevents you from getting that clue).
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              • woj
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                • Jul 2002
                • 47882

                #8
                Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                • I just bought Amazon Prime (finally) mainly for the streaming videos
                • I have had a Netflix subscription for 3 years now
                • If I was a 'pornophile' I would want a 'pornstream.' service for $10.99 /mo too
                xxxxxx-phile is typically open to paying whatever it takes for a premium quality product... that's why audiophiles pay $2k for a set of headphones, or why cinephiles first see movie in a theater then buy $50 "collector's edition" bluerays to watch on their $10k+ home theater system... they certainly don't subscribe to some low quality streaming for $99/year...

                so I don't think $10.99 price point works, that's the price that would perhaps appeal to an average porn consumer that just wants something to jerk off to, but why would they pay even that, if for them a free visit to a tube site is more than enough? pornophile on the other hand, wants a quality product and is open to paying whatever it takes, that's why much higher price point makes more sense...
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                • Shap
                  Confirmed User
                  • May 2001
                  • 8313

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                  • I just bought Amazon Prime (finally) mainly for the streaming videos
                  • I have had a Netflix subscription for 3 years now
                  • If I was a 'pornophile' I would want a 'pornstream.' service for $10.99 /mo too

                  Agreed! This is one thing that was done in the past but didn't fly because of a few reasons imo.
                  #1 pay sites were killing it and greedy about what they wanted.
                  #2 the guys running the netflix had a business model that was built on them making money and not the studios.

                  Basically greed vs greed and of course it failed

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                  • Barry-xlovecam
                    It's 42
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 18083

                    #10
                    Originally posted by woj
                    ...verage porn consumer that just wants something to jerk off to, but why would they pay even that, if for them a free visit to a tube site is more than enough? ...

                    youtube full length movies are 90% crap quality and content with foreign language subtitles I can't turn off.
                    If I am seeing what movies are free on youtube it's desperation time -- that's why

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                    • Paul Markham
                      Too old to care
                      • Jun 2001
                      • 52942

                      #11
                      Originally posted by yuu
                      sounds interesting
                      If your girls speak English, it works.



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                      • Paul Markham
                        Too old to care
                        • Jun 2001
                        • 52942

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                        • I just bought Amazon Prime (finally) mainly for the streaming videos
                        • I have had a Netflix subscription for 3 years now
                        • If I was a 'pornophile' I would want a 'pornstream.' service for $10.99 /mo too


                        That's the Point of Sale. This is about promotion so the surfer wants to buy the girls you offer. From you.



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                        • Paul Markham
                          Too old to care
                          • Jun 2001
                          • 52942

                          #13
                          Originally posted by woj
                          so I don't think $10.99 price point works, that's the price that would perhaps appeal to an average porn consumer that just wants something to jerk off to, but why would they pay even that, if for them a free visit to a tube site is more than enough? pornophile on the other hand, wants a quality product and is open to paying whatever it takes, that's why much higher price point makes more sense...
                          Because they want to jerk off to the girl;s your site has. The people who will jerk off to any old porn are long gone.

                          Price point depends on how much the site offers.



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                          • Bladewire
                            StraightBro
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 56228

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Paul Markham

                            Price point depends on how much the site offers.
                            Incorrect


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                            • bns666
                              Confirmed Fetishist
                              • Mar 2005
                              • 11553

                              #15
                              kink.com had a site like that years ago and it never converted.
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                              • Paul Markham
                                Too old to care
                                • Jun 2001
                                • 52942

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                                youtube full length movies are 90% crap quality and content with foreign language subtitles I can't turn off.
                                If I am seeing what movies are free on youtube it's desperation time -- that's why
                                The level of quality, not image quality, is down to who produces it. Get a bored shooter, shooting bored girls, or doing the same thing over and over again. It will not work.

                                The job is to sell the girl as a person men want to fall in love with. No one here will say that's impossible. Which is better than a clip from the scene or an image.

                                We have loads of images on GFY, how much better would a video of the girl be?

                                The problem is once someone gives away 100x10 minutes of the same scene. By just changing the bed/sofa/girl. This isn't good enough to jerk off to and good at revealing who the girl is.

                                Or just keep going down the road we are, that for most is a road down.

                                S4B I knew you wouldn't get this, it's out of your skills set.



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                                • celandina
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Jun 2006
                                  • 11717

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                  Sex sellsls, the stats on the numbers buying it prove that. When I sell and buy I mean a consumer wants to get pleasure, goes to a pornsite and consumes porn. Because of the way this industry had dedicated itself to pleasuring so many to get a percentage buying is this industries fault. It insisted a 1% conversion rate was acceptable, and now only bitched because it's 0.0001% or whatever it is.

                                  A few years ago there were TV shows about behind the scenes on a big porn. The TV crew would follow porn cast and crew to the location and film behind the scenes footage. Models at play, resting, interviews etc. This is an excellent way to sell the performers and the movies. It's softcore so no problem putting it on FB, Vimeo and linking to blogs.

                                  The catch is having people capable of motivating models to be seductive enough to make surfers want to pay for the movies. There will be a fallout to piracy. Only an idiot would put the hardcore version on a porn Tube.

                                  Another catch is most are clueless how to do this. I did it back in the 90s and sold it to Cable TV in the UK, took some planning and thinking. The good thing is this will provide hours and hours of promotional content that's engaging the viewer. Who will want to see the hardcore version.
                                  Oh my God ...and I used to admire you, but I have NEVER heard a stupid suggestion as this... Do you for one minute believe that my crew ( who makes movies for Disney when they do not work on my shit and go to church on Sunday) want to be featured on some porn ( soft or not) porn site?? Alzheimer must truly be setting in...

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                                  • Bladewire
                                    StraightBro
                                    • Aug 2003
                                    • 56228

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Mediamix
                                    Here we go again! Let's all sit by the fireplace, because grandpa is telling stories.
                                    Paul has good intentions, he tries.


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                                    • wehateporn
                                      Promoting Debate on GFY
                                      • Apr 2007
                                      • 27176

                                      #19
                                      Paul, it's time to start writing your autobiography, one last payday for the legend

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                                      • 2MuchMark
                                        Mark of 2Much.net
                                        • Aug 2004
                                        • 50969

                                        #20
                                        Peeps:

                                        You shouldn't trash Paul on this. He offers some really good advice here. Lots of n00bs getting into adult don't know the first thing about getting anywhere, how to start, what to do, what to try, etc.

                                        Paul's advice about TV shows is spot-on. While customers like hardcore porn, they also fantasize about ongoing relationships, real or not, with their favourite models. TV-friendly and PG content really helps nurture this kind of thing.

                                        Good post Paul!


                                        Originally posted by woj
                                        so I don't think $10.99 price point works.
                                        Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                        Price point depends on how much the site offers.
                                        D'oh!

                                        It's not the price-point. It's the VALUE for the price. Value can be quantity for sure, but it's also about quality, and, get ready for it, emotional satisfaction.

                                        Think about it like this: A customer wants to jerk-off to the model(s) he likes of course. So then, why does he like that model? Sure it's her tits and ass, but it's also her face, and her personality. Don't discount this. People may connect based on looks, but they stay connected thanks to personalities. If you can fulfill all of these desires, the total value of your content to your customers (or more specifically, to your models fan base) is now worth more.

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                                        • Bladewire
                                          StraightBro
                                          • Aug 2003
                                          • 56228

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by MarkPrince
                                          Hi Mediamix,

                                          You shouldn't trash Paul on this. He offers some really good advice here. Lots of n00bs getting into adult don't know the first thing about getting anywhere.

                                          Paul's advice about TV shows is spot-on too. While customers like hardcore porn, they also fantasize about ongoing relationships, real or not, with their favourite models. TV-friendly and PG content really helps nurture this kind of thing.

                                          Good post Paul!
                                          Yet he says "Price point depends on how much the site offers." So he says price all depends on quantity of content or he's giving such a vague answer as for it to have no value as an answer at all.


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                                          • Barry-xlovecam
                                            It's 42
                                            • Jun 2010
                                            • 18083

                                            #22
                                            Paul... bla,bla,bla
                                            Guess who got the sale today -- and why?

                                            I can get into watching quality older movies too. I can pay for the pleasure.

                                            I could watch crap on youtube that is mostly awful quality uploads that are free.

                                            If Pornoflix offered these paysites decent licensing royalties are you telling me that they would say no -- that they are making too much money. Netflix and Amazon Prime are making money in spite of Youtube free content. Get with the program already.

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                                            • Elli
                                              Reach for those stars!
                                              • Apr 2003
                                              • 17991

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by bns666
                                              kink.com had a site like that years ago and it never converted.
                                              From what I understand, Paul is not suggesting building a site based on this soft content. Instead use that content as your teasers to upload to tubes, facebook, vimeo, everywhere to drive traffic to your site. The guys will fall in love with the girls and want to see more AND you're not giving away your expensive content to competing platforms.

                                              Remember the old E! shows with bikini models showing you neat travel destinations? Now what if you knew those girls also had porn videos. You would zip on over to her video once you finished (ahem) her bikini content.
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                                              • Struggle4Bucks
                                                Sieg Hi!
                                                • May 2011
                                                • 3615

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                S4B I knew you wouldn't get this, it's out of your skills set.
                                                Oh I do get it... It's just nothing special and it has all kinds of limitations...

                                                Every producer thinks about what to- and what not to show on... for example... tubes...
                                                You think you're special... you're just mediocre Paul...

                                                My comments were not even about the content of your post... It was not worth it to reply. It was about the comorbidity of God knows which behavioral defunctions that makes you post all these kinds of threads all the time...
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                                                • The Porn Nerd
                                                  Living The Dream
                                                  • Jun 2009
                                                  • 19784

                                                  #25
                                                  So Paul offers a way for paysties to make more sales yet it makes no sense. Do a TV show? Do some BTS clips for YouTube? Brilliance.

                                                  Of course these things have been tried (and continue to be tried - I have a Parody BTS site coming next year). So what?

                                                  Paul thinks the #1 problem are the models. They don't know how to be seductive! They don't know how to get men to fall in love with them!! You do realize solo girl sites would be the area where the model "needs" to make her customer fall in love with her, right? Ask Robbie and Claudia-Marie. THEY get it. But how THEY market their site would not work for a generic porn site, or even a niche site with multiple models.

                                                  Ohh why do I bother? LOL Carry on.
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                                                  • OneHungLo
                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                    • May 2001
                                                    • 40906

                                                    #26
                                                    Did Paul Markham's porn site even sell a single subscription?

                                                    *not including the magic join links

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                                                    • Google Expert
                                                      Webmaster
                                                      • Jun 2004
                                                      • 14294

                                                      #27






































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                                                      • SpicyM
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Aug 2006
                                                        • 4575

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Mediamix
                                                        Here we go again! Let's all sit by the fireplace, because grandpa is telling stories.
                                                        no sig, sorry

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                                                        • Bladewire
                                                          StraightBro
                                                          • Aug 2003
                                                          • 56228

                                                          #29
                                                          Grampa Paul giving advice in 2007 mega thread

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                                                          • Struggle4Bucks
                                                            Sieg Hi!
                                                            • May 2011
                                                            • 3615

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Bladewire
                                                            Hey... why are you bumping this 2007 thread???
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                                                            • Struggle4Bucks
                                                              Sieg Hi!
                                                              • May 2011
                                                              • 3615

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Struggle4Bucks
                                                              Hey... why are you bumping this 2007 thread???
                                                              Ok my bad this is the 2016 thread... It sounded like a 2007 one... sorry...

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                                                              • Bladewire
                                                                StraightBro
                                                                • Aug 2003
                                                                • 56228

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Struggle4Bucks
                                                                Ok my bad this is the 2016 thread... It sounded like a 2007 one... sorry...

                                                                Easy mistake to make. In porn we call it the Markham effect.










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                                                                • Paul Markham
                                                                  Too old to care
                                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                                  • 52942

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by celandina
                                                                  Oh my God ...and I used to admire you, but I have NEVER heard a stupid suggestion as this... Do you for one minute believe that my crew ( who makes movies for Disney when they do not work on my shit and go to church on Sunday) want to be featured on some porn ( soft or not) porn site?? Alzheimer must truly be setting in...
                                                                  Join the"If I can't do it no one can" Crew.

                                                                  Ideas that everyone can do, aren't any good in a competitive market.



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                                                                  • Paul Markham
                                                                    Too old to care
                                                                    • Jun 2001
                                                                    • 52942

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Bladewire
                                                                    Paul has good intentions, he tries.
                                                                    The problem is people are waiting for ideas that are simple and at their level. My ideas have never been easy.



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                                                                    • Paul Markham
                                                                      Too old to care
                                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                                      • 52942

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by MarkPrince
                                                                      Peeps:

                                                                      You shouldn't trash Paul on this. He offers some really good advice here. Lots of n00bs getting into adult don't know the first thing about getting anywhere, how to start, what to do, what to try, etc.

                                                                      Paul's advice about TV shows is spot-on. While customers like hardcore porn, they also fantasize about ongoing relationships, real or not, with their favourite models. TV-friendly and PG content really helps nurture this kind of thing.

                                                                      Good post Paul!
                                                                      The problem here is so few understand anything. Reality shows SELL. Hot girls SELL. Porn SELL. Knowing who the girl is will SELL the membership.

                                                                      A lot better than giving away the scenes on a Tube or writing a blog thay has nothing to appeal to surfers.

                                                                      D'oh!

                                                                      It's not the price-point. It's the VALUE for the price. Value can be quantity for sure, but it's also about quality, and, get ready for it, emotional satisfaction.

                                                                      Think about it like this: A customer wants to jerk-off to the model(s) he likes of course. So then, why does he like that model? Sure it's her tits and ass, but it's also her face, and her personality. Don't discount this. People may connect based on looks, but they stay connected thanks to personalities. If you can fulfill all of these desires, the total value of your content to your customers (or more specifically, to your models fan base) is now worth more.
                                                                      Some people here have no clue on how to sell porn. How many of those trashing the idea can do it?



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                                                                      • Paul Markham
                                                                        Too old to care
                                                                        • Jun 2001
                                                                        • 52942

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
                                                                        So Paul offers a way for paysties to make more sales yet it makes no sense. Do a TV show? Do some BTS clips for YouTube? Brilliance.

                                                                        Of course these things have been tried (and continue to be tried - I have a Parody BTS site coming next year). So what?

                                                                        Paul thinks the #1 problem are the models. They don't know how to be seductive! They don't know how to get men to fall in love with them!! You do realize solo girl sites would be the area where the model "needs" to make her customer fall in love with her, right? Ask Robbie and Claudia-Marie. THEY get it. But how THEY market their site would not work for a generic porn site, or even a niche site with multiple models.

                                                                        Ohh why do I bother? LOL Carry on.
                                                                        So porn girls don't know how to be seductive. And your experience shooting content is far more than mine. DOPE.

                                                                        Obviously, someone buying up old sites and content, or doing revshare, hasn't a clue how to do this.

                                                                        Join the"If I can't do it no one can" Crew.



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                                                                        • Paul Markham
                                                                          Too old to care
                                                                          • Jun 2001
                                                                          • 52942

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Struggle4Bucks
                                                                          Oh I do get it... It's just nothing special and it has all kinds of limitations...

                                                                          Every producer thinks about what to- and what not to show on... for example... tubes...
                                                                          You think you're special... you're just mediocre Paul...

                                                                          My comments were not even about the content of your post... It was not worth it to reply. It was about the comorbidity of God knows which behavioral defunctions that makes you post all these kinds of threads all the time...
                                                                          Join the"If I can't do it no one can" Crew. You couldn't shoot BDS content that was good enough. Roald confirmed it.



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                                                                          • Paul Markham
                                                                            Too old to care
                                                                            • Jun 2001
                                                                            • 52942

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Elli
                                                                            From what I understand, Paul is not suggesting building a site based on this soft content. Instead use that content as your teasers to upload to tubes, facebook, vimeo, everywhere to drive traffic to your site. The guys will fall in love with the girls and want to see more AND you're not giving away your expensive content to competing platforms.

                                                                            Remember the old E! shows with bikini models showing you neat travel destinations? Now what if you knew those girls also had porn videos. You would zip on over to her video once you finished (ahem) her bikini content.
                                                                            You left out blog sites with a lot more to offer the surfer than text.



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                                                                            • Paul Markham
                                                                              Too old to care
                                                                              • Jun 2001
                                                                              • 52942

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                                                                              Paul... bla,bla,bla
                                                                              Guess who got the sale today -- and why?

                                                                              I can get into watching quality older movies too. I can pay for the pleasure.

                                                                              I could watch crap on youtube that is mostly awful quality uploads that are free.

                                                                              If Pornoflix offered these paysites decent licensing royalties are you telling me that they would say no -- that they are making too much money. Netflix and Amazon Prime are making money in spite of Youtube free content. Get with the program already.
                                                                              In porn, the stats on Tubes and paysites proves you need to. Get with the program already.

                                                                              Never make the mistake of confusing a race horse with a dead dog.

                                                                              This idea with some adaptation would work for Camgirls. Pity you can't do it.



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                                                                              • Roald
                                                                                SecretFriends.com
                                                                                • May 2001
                                                                                • 27910

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                Join the"If I can't do it no one can" Crew. You couldn't shoot BDS content that was good enough. Roald confirmed it.
                                                                                lol what did I confirm?


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                                                                                • Mediamix
                                                                                  Dutch Webmaster!
                                                                                  • Sep 2013
                                                                                  • 3228

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                  The problem is people are waiting for ideas that are simple and at their level. My ideas have never been easy.
                                                                                  This shit is too funny....
                                                                                  Sig too big

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                                                                                  • Barry-xlovecam
                                                                                    It's 42
                                                                                    • Jun 2010
                                                                                    • 18083

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Paul we can see the real reason you retired.

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                                                                                    • Bladewire
                                                                                      StraightBro
                                                                                      • Aug 2003
                                                                                      • 56228

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                                                                                      Paul we can see the real reason you retired.
                                                                                      He had a bout with cancer and feels he doesn't physically have the strength to shoot as he used to. Seriously


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                                                                                      • Struggle4Bucks
                                                                                        Sieg Hi!
                                                                                        • May 2011
                                                                                        • 3615

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                        Join the"If I can't do it no one can" Crew. You couldn't shoot BDS content that was good enough. Roald confirmed it.
                                                                                        You knowledge of porn is so huge that I even don't know what you mean with BDS content...

                                                                                        Roald did not confirm anything in regards to my content... Owh you mean the "we wait for data to see if we continue to update" part... You cannot compare me, running the sites as a sole proprietor, with a large company like Payserve. What's worth it to me as sole proprietor (who did this out of passion) might not be worth it to them as a large company. Completely different approach...

                                                                                        1+1=2. That's considered a fact.
                                                                                        1+x=x... that's the best you can say about it.
                                                                                        What you do is following: 1+x=3.

                                                                                        What i'm saying is: learn to read. The conclusions you draw are nothing but assumptions!

                                                                                        I never claimed my sites were big money makers.
                                                                                        You claim that I couldn't afford it to shoot new updates: Wrong!
                                                                                        Could I continue to update the sites based on current revenue? Yes
                                                                                        It still generated a profit... Did it generate a decent income? Completely subjective and also completely irrelevant to you...

                                                                                        The only thing I said was: you can still make a decent living with a paysite.
                                                                                        Whatever conclusions you draw from that is completely on your behalf...

                                                                                        Some paysites break even; some make supplementary income; some make a decent income; some are killing it.

                                                                                        Long story short:
                                                                                        You can't draw conclusions about a whole industry based on some paysites you have seen closing down during the years... That's why you talk shit most of the time... You lack the intelligence to oversee and consider all ins and outs behind the curtain.

                                                                                        You're nothing but an old noosey crancky cunt trying to stick his nose in other peoples affairs because you are bored looking at your neighbors clay hut all day...
                                                                                        Half troll half amazing!

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                                                                                        • Bladewire
                                                                                          StraightBro
                                                                                          • Aug 2003
                                                                                          • 56228

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by Struggle4Bucks
                                                                                          You knowledge of porn is so huge that I even don't know what you mean with BDS content...

                                                                                          Roald did not confirm anything in regards to my content... Owh you mean the "we wait for data to see if we continue to update" part... You cannot compare me, running the sites as a sole proprietor, with a large company like Payserve. What's worth it to me as sole proprietor (who did this out of passion) might not be worth it to them as a large company. Completely different approach...

                                                                                          1+1=2. That's considered a fact.
                                                                                          1+x=x... that's the best you can say about it.
                                                                                          What you do is following: 1+x=3.

                                                                                          What i'm saying is: learn to read. The conclusions you draw are nothing but assumptions!

                                                                                          I never claimed my sites were big money makers.
                                                                                          You claim that I couldn't afford it to shoot new updates: Wrong!
                                                                                          Could I continue to update the sites based on current revenue? Yes
                                                                                          It still generated a profit... Did it generate a decent income? Completely subjective and also completely irrelevant to you...

                                                                                          The only thing I said was: you can still make a decent living with a paysite.
                                                                                          Whatever conclusions you draw from that is completely on your behalf...

                                                                                          Some paysites break even; some make supplementary income; some make a decent income; some are killing it.

                                                                                          Long story short:
                                                                                          You can't draw conclusions about a whole industry based on some paysites you have seen closing down during the years... That's why you talk shit most of the time... You lack the intelligence to oversee and consider all ins and outs behind the curtain.
                                                                                          Well said


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                                                                                          • Barry-xlovecam
                                                                                            It's 42
                                                                                            • Jun 2010
                                                                                            • 18083

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by Bladewire
                                                                                            He had a bout with cancer and feels he doesn't physically have the strength to shoot as he used to. Seriously
                                                                                            I know that.
                                                                                            I knew Paul before he got sick too

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                                                                                            • Steve Rupe
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Nov 2016
                                                                                              • 3070

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              The OP appears to be senile.

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                                                                                              • Paul Markham
                                                                                                Too old to care
                                                                                                • Jun 2001
                                                                                                • 52942

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by Roald
                                                                                                lol what did I confirm?
                                                                                                When you said, you were adding new content to see if you could raise sales enough to warrant working on the site. Obviously, the sites as they currently are aren't worth working on.



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                                                                                                • Paul Markham
                                                                                                  Too old to care
                                                                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                                                                  • 52942

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Bladewire
                                                                                                  He had a bout with cancer and feels he doesn't physically have the strength to shoot as he used to. Seriously
                                                                                                  Which was proven when I shot the $3,000 scene for Manwin.



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                                                                                                  • Paul Markham
                                                                                                    Too old to care
                                                                                                    • Jun 2001
                                                                                                    • 52942

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Struggle4Bucks
                                                                                                    You knowledge of porn is so huge that I even don't know what you mean with BDS content...

                                                                                                    Roald did not confirm anything in regards to my content... Owh you mean the "we wait for data to see if we continue to update" part... You cannot compare me, running the sites as a sole proprietor, with a large company like Payserve. What's worth it to me as sole proprietor (who did this out of passion) might not be worth it to them as a large company. Completely different approach...

                                                                                                    1+1=2. That's considered a fact.
                                                                                                    1+x=x... that's the best you can say about it.
                                                                                                    What you do is following: 1+x=3.
                                                                                                    Roald confirmed that updating the site wasn't worth it with their huge resources based on what you had done. Along with the extra content, they have extra avenues to get traffic. In no way do I compare you to the company he works for.

                                                                                                    I never claimed my sites were big money makers.
                                                                                                    You claim that I couldn't afford it to shoot new updates: Wrong!
                                                                                                    Could I continue to update the sites based on current revenue? Yes
                                                                                                    It still generated a profit... Did it generate a decent income? Completely subjective and also completely irrelevant to you...
                                                                                                    So why sell it?

                                                                                                    The only thing I said was: you can still make a decent living with a paysite.
                                                                                                    Whatever conclusions you draw from that is completely on your behalf...
                                                                                                    So show us your new one.

                                                                                                    Some paysites break even; some make supplementary income; some make a decent income; some are killing it.
                                                                                                    Agreed. Where is your paysite in that ladder?

                                                                                                    Long story short:
                                                                                                    You can't draw conclusions about a whole industry based on some paysites you have seen closing down during the years... That's why you talk shit most of the time... You lack the intelligence to oversee and consider all ins and outs behind the curtain.
                                                                                                    I'm not. There are sites making a decent amount. Most are on a downward slope.

                                                                                                    You're nothing but an old noosey crancky cunt trying to stick his nose in other peoples affairs because you are bored looking at your neighbors clay hut all day...
                                                                                                    If I was wrong, the industry wouldn't be 99.99% free.



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                                                                                                    PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

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