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  • arock10
    Confirmed User
    • Jan 2006
    • 6217

    #76
    Originally posted by celandina
    Do not want to argue but as i said in my last post. It is the content ( film library) somebody would be buying, NOT a website per say...in an original content business ( adult or Hollywood) the "brick and mortar" refers to copyrighted content ( used to be masters on film, then on tapes and now located on hard drives), but it is all still basically the same. If you own a lot of good content, this will have a so called " long tail" of consumption. ( note how many vintage and classic sites there are). I am still selling ( and getting rolyalties from others) on a movie I have made in 1992 !!! Of course not for 100s of "Ks" as then, but 10 K per year is not so bad and after 25 years it is the " long tail" I am referring to.

    Of course you are also right that the price is determined if there is an interest, but you may have to make a presumption that there is a business who will apply the same rules to adult business as to any other business.... And that is

    If you sell a "smoke and mirrors" you get pittance, but if you have a real value you will ( sooner or later) get it.

    Anyway I do not know CPM from ATM or MechBunny from the EnergizerBunny, but I know business and finance...
    Content isn't worth much... the business you are buying is

    That being said please buy me out for 10yrs revs
    Sup

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    • Bladewire
      StraightBro
      • Aug 2003
      • 56228

      #77
      Originally posted by arock10
      Content isn't worth much... the business you are buying id
      You've been hoodwinked and are perpetuating a lie

      Content is stolen because it is valuable, illegal businesses are then built around the stolen content.

      Mainstream music/video catalogs are bought and sold as commodities because of the sole value of the content


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      • The Porn Nerd
        Living The Dream
        • Jun 2009
        • 19784

        #78
        Originally posted by Bladewire
        Mainstream music/video catalogs are bought and sold as commodities because of the sole value of the content
        Yes, and if the adult industry protected its' content the way the film and music industries do porn would be worth a fuck lot more than it is now.
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        • Bladewire
          StraightBro
          • Aug 2003
          • 56228

          #79
          Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
          Yes, and if the adult industry protected its' content the way the film and music industries do porn would be worth a fuck lot more than it is now.
          Those of us left, have/do ;)


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          • plaster
            So Fucking Banned
            • Apr 2015
            • 2295

            #80
            Originally posted by Bladewire
            Those of us left, have/do ;)
            I thought you sold all your sites?

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            • Bladewire
              StraightBro
              • Aug 2003
              • 56228

              #81
              ^^ my straight stalker ^^


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              • Struggle4Bucks
                Sieg Hi!
                • May 2011
                • 3615

                #82
                Originally posted by BigFurry
                I think porn is different from mainstream movies. Old porn isn't worth much. Sure, there are vintage porn sites, but it's a tiny thing in comparison to the rest. There are also sites that have bought 10000s of old scenes - VideoBox, VideosZ (and Bang), MovieBox, Adult Empire Unlimited, BaDoink, etc. You can buy old content for pennies.

                If you bought a website, you'd be buying the brand rather - the fans, the working promotion infrastructure, the affiliates, etc. Unless you can continue to produce movies that are exactly the same, the site and the earnings will decline fast, IMO.
                I agree

                Originally posted by Bladewire
                Content is stolen because it is valuable
                That doesn't mean that all content is valuable and/or will stay valuable. Buy a companies library now and probably half of it is SD. I really don't see much value in SD content. I personally wouldn't even use it as filler anymore...

                Mainstream content is different from most adult content. I enjoy listening to 70s music or older movies but look at a 70s pornmovie... uhm... you must be into some vintage indeed.

                A top quality digitally shot adult movie looks like crap in 10 years from now if you see how fast technology develops...

                Most content can be found at the tubes; filesharers, etc... You can literally watch content package prices drop here on gfy as the months pass by. I think Paul sells his content package for $500 now... etc... (or is it $5 bucks allready?)

                If you want to pay 3x annual you really must ask yourself: why not start from scratch shooting content? It's way more cheaper and thus less risky;) Anyone with extent previous experience and succes in running paysites should be able to bring a new product to 20k revenue monthly within months...
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                • Bladewire
                  StraightBro
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 56228

                  #83
                  Originally posted by Struggle4Bucks
                  Anyone with extent previous experience in running paysites should be able to bring a new product to 20k revenue monthly within months...
                  I agree and I'm surprised more people don't do it, it's not like the content investment is astronomical or anything.


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                  • BigFurry
                    Confirmed User
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 1574

                    #84
                    Originally posted by Struggle4Bucks
                    Anyone with extent previous experience and succes in running paysites should be able to bring a new product to 20k revenue monthly within months...
                    20K revenue or profit? When calculating multiples, it's based on the profits, at least from what I've seen so far.

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                    • Paul Markham
                      Too old to care
                      • Jun 2001
                      • 52942

                      #85
                      Originally posted by Struggle4Bucks
                      Only if you were their accountant you could make a claim like that...
                      So you make lots of money with old content. Join the club.

                      BUT, are you in the club that Shap wants to speak to?



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                      • Paul Markham
                        Too old to care
                        • Jun 2001
                        • 52942

                        #86
                        Originally posted by celandina
                        You are correct Paul. Having 45 K a montly "nut" and billing 50 K is no key to success, but with monthly "nut" of 5K and billing 20 K is better...
                        The days of making 300% profit per month on a site. Were 4/21/2001 and 6/15/2001



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                        • Paul Markham
                          Too old to care
                          • Jun 2001
                          • 52942

                          #87
                          Originally posted by Google Expert


                          The "know it all" Paul is here to set everything straight
                          It's easy to prove me wrong. Show your site and how it makes money without spending a lot on traffic and content.

                          OR STFU!!!



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                          • Paul Markham
                            Too old to care
                            • Jun 2001
                            • 52942

                            #88
                            Originally posted by Lichen
                            On what planet?



                            No one in their right mind would sell a 20k profit business for 120k
                            Originally posted by 3xmedia
                            probably not, but still, paying 6-12x monthy revenue is a standard in adult.
                            Here's advice from someone who knows something about this.

                            We stopped working in January 2008 and shut down all expenses by 2009, except processing and affiliates. From 2008 through to 2014? We made obscene profits. It was simple, we stopped spending out and kept taking in. Revenue declined profits rose doubling, trebling, quadrupling, etc.

                            If a person wants out why sell a business for 6 months turnover when they can stop spending money and take 12+ months turnover at 90% profit? What work is there that needs to be done that can't be done in a few hours a day? If there are no updates and pestering affiliates with little or no sales are told to go take a hike?

                            OK a programmer to make sure it runs and someone to answer emails.

                            This is how some here make a living and make the owner money with a 50/50 split. We never took those offers because we made more with me looking after the sites.



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                            • rabbit
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 2124

                              #89
                              Originally posted by Paul Markham
                              Here's advice from someone who knows something about this

                              If a person wants out why sell a business for 6 months turnover when they can stop spending money and take 12+ months turnover at 90% profit? What work is there that needs to be done that can't be done in a few hours a day? If there are no updates and pestering affiliates with little or no sales are told to go take a hike?

                              OK a programmer to make sure it runs and someone to answer emails.

                              This is how some here make a living and make the owner money with a 50/50 split. We never took those offers because we made more with me looking after the sites.
                              Wow Paul can write something that actually makes sense once per 1000 posts!

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                              • Paul Markham
                                Too old to care
                                • Jun 2001
                                • 52942

                                #90
                                Originally posted by Roald
                                Stilll quite a useless number. Unless you're selling the exact same business with the exact same brand recognition and the exact same etc. etc.

                                Like said already in the end what matters is what someone is willing to pay for it.
                                You forgot to mention the same year.



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