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11-17-2016, 02:40 PM

Originally posted by plaster

Shap, you're a good guy. You won't find this person. If they were flat or growing they would be well ahead of the game and comfortable, no way would they sell.

This isn't an old thread bump is it?

Why wouldn't they? Not for 6x the monthly income obviously, but well oiled businesses are sold all the time. Everything has it's price

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11-17-2016, 03:02 PM

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11-17-2016, 03:07 PM

Originally posted by matuloo

Why wouldn't they? Not for 6x the monthly income obviously, but well oiled businesses are sold all the time. Everything has it's price

Not sure if you caught my second post but I was already offered a business that would bill way over 20k/month. The offer came direct from the affiliate. It requires affiliate platform programming, 30k to the affiliate up front, and MIDS. At least 10.

I don't have the 50k cash to invest but it's for the grabbing. I am investing my time in 4 sites I've setup, and now doing the grunt work to get the accounts I need on them.

But that was an inadvertent offer to shap... I guess. He is more then welcome to contact me via pm to find out more, my history, my contacts, what this would make monthly, and my terms to see it through.
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11-17-2016, 03:14 PM

Originally posted by plaster

It requires affiliate platform programming, 30k to the affiliate up front, and MIDS. At least 10.

- affiliate platform = NATS @ $500 / per month
- 30k to the affiliate up front = what for? traffic?
- At least 10 MIDS to bill $20k = I do four times as much on a single MID. Why do you need 10? Unless it's something shady and you intend to burn through them.
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11-17-2016, 03:22 PM

Originally posted by Google Expert

- affiliate platform = NATS @ $500 / per month
- 30k to the affiliate up front = what for? traffic?
- At least 10 MIDS to bill $20k = I do four times as much on a single MID. Why do you need 10? Unless it's something shady and you intend to burn through them.

Nats doesn't work for the application. You can't truly host your own join form with nats to collect necessary info and send to maxmind.

I don't want to put more then 25k/month on any mid. Period. 1% or 2% chargeback and 100 chargebacks become a real problem if you put too much on any 1 mid in adult.

10 mids might be an overstretch at first. But getting 100 daily joins you want at least 4 mids. Scale up, more mids.
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11-17-2016, 03:27 PM

Originally posted by plaster

Nats doesn't work for the application. You can't truly host your own join form with nats to collect necessary info and send to maxmind.

Unless you are looking to straight up collect CC info, you can do pretty much anything on NATS.

Yes, you can host your own join forms. That's the whole point.
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11-17-2016, 03:34 PM

Originally posted by Google Expert

Unless you are looking to straight up collect CC info, you can do pretty much anything on NATS.

Yes, you can host your own join forms. That's the whole point.

They offer you a whitelabel join form that you can design hosted on their server. I went into all this, over the past 2 years, and it is not a truly hosted join form on your own server.

You can collect credit card information by using insecure java or whatever, but you can't simply pass the information to maxmind to get your prescrub results.

I don't collect credit card information. I collect a portion of it to avoid pci requirements, plus I have no use for it. I just want as much prescrub as possible prior to sending to gateway.

Nats is not $500 if you do alot of billing. I just checked their pricing again and $500 isn't a package right now.
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11-17-2016, 03:56 PM

Originally posted by plaster

They offer you a whitelabel join form that you can design hosted on their server. I went into all this, over the past 2 years, and it is not a truly hosted join form on your own server.

You can collect credit card information by using insecure java or whatever, but you can't simply pass the information to maxmind to get your prescrub results.

I don't collect credit card information. I collect a portion of it to avoid pci requirements, plus I have no use for it. I just want as much prescrub as possible prior to sending to gateway.

Nats is not $500 if you do alot of billing. I just checked their pricing again and $500 isn't a package right now.

I said $500 based on your 20k/month quote. For 100 daily joins you're looking at $850 per month.

I don't know where you get your "whitelable join form" info from. With our own MID and NATS you can host your own join pages on your own server. If you want max pre-scrub (which you shouldn't) then let your gateway (Netbilling) handle it or just your acquirer bank (they do it anyway). You're making it sound more complicated that it is.

What is it you want to sell anyway? Regular porn memberships?
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11-17-2016, 04:07 PM

Originally posted by Google Expert

I said $500 based on your 20k/month quote. For 100 daily joins you're looking at $850 per month.

I don't know where you get your "whitelable join form" info from. With our own MID and NATS you can host your own join pages on your own server. If you want max pre-scrub (which you shouldn't) then let your gateway (Netbilling) handle it or just your acquirer bank (they do it anyway). You're making it sound more complicated that it is.

What is it you want to sell anyway? Regular porn memberships?

I'm actually exhausted with everything I've gone through the past 2 years... there is a very big pink elephant in the room with their join forms in that you can't send it to prescrub maxmind service prior to sending to gateway. Also prepaid cards... netbillibg and all the others... they allow prepaid or allow on single sale or don't allow... where is the ability to allow prepaid on full subscription join but not trial?

Anyway... the reason I'm not fully pursuing adult gigs is because I have become numb to it. I'm doing my mainstream idea now and I only hope it takes off.

I do believe you are billing 1mil per year based on your screen shot from PM thread. Why don't you pm me and take this project off my hands while I will set it all up and collect a percent, each, and every month.
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11-17-2016, 04:34 PM

Shap: If you are willing to pay several multiples of annual earnings (ie. at least 4), then contact me. [email protected]

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11-17-2016, 04:37 PM

Originally posted by plaster

I'm actually exhausted with everything I've gone through the past 2 years... there is a very big pink elephant in the room with their join forms in that you can't send it to prescrub maxmind service prior to sending to gateway. Also prepaid cards... netbillibg and all the others... they allow prepaid or allow on single sale or don't allow... where is the ability to allow prepaid on full subscription join but not trial?

Anyway... the reason I'm not fully pursuing adult gigs is because I have become numb to it. I'm doing my mainstream idea now and I only hope it takes off.

I do believe you are billing 1mil per year based on your screen shot from PM thread. Why don't you pm me and take this project off my hands while I will set it all up and collect a percent, each, and every month.

Sent you a PM.
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11-17-2016, 04:56 PM

Originally posted by Google Expert

Sent you a PM.

Responded and let's talk tomorrow.
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11-17-2016, 10:06 PM

Originally posted by plaster

Not sure if you caught my second post but I was already offered a business that would bill way over 20k/month. The offer came direct from the affiliate. It requires affiliate platform programming, 30k to the affiliate up front, and MIDS. At least 10.

I don't have the 50k cash to invest but it's for the grabbing. I am investing my time in 4 sites I've setup, and now doing the grunt work to get the accounts I need on them.

But that was an inadvertent offer to shap... I guess. He is more then welcome to contact me via pm to find out more, my history, my contacts, what this would make monthly, and my terms to see it through.

If you need a bunch of mids, then it's xsells. you don't need to buy a business to do xsells, you just need to know who the seller is and his email address.
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#29

11-17-2016, 10:10 PM

Originally posted by plaster

where is the ability to allow prepaid on full subscription join but not trial?

I believe with a free trial you can pre-auth for the full member price.
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11-17-2016, 10:11 PM

Originally posted by Shap

This is for anybody who's thinking about selling. Only two criteria

#2 You have to be growing or flat. Not declining.

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