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  • Grapesoda
    So Fucking Banned
    • Jul 2003
    • 46238

    #1

    a question for dems actually working in porn

    so you guys are big proponents of giving away money to people that do not earn money for a myriad of reasons... in financial terms that is called distributing capital with out compensation... how did the tubes work out for you?
  • BlackCrayon
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Jun 2003
    • 19634

    #2
    its either that or support those in bed with the religious right. neither is a good option.

    in the end we all have to accept that you will have to give away your hard earned money to do nothings to keep them complacent. take it away and they won't work for it, they'll just take it by whatever means necessary. i don't like it any more than you.
    you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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    • Joshua G
      dumb libs love censorship
      • Jul 2008
      • 8198

      #3
      liberals in porn are too busy trying to force performers to wear condoms. prop 60!

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      • Horatio Caine
        full-time aspiring rapper
        • Aug 2012
        • 5746

        #4
        Originally posted by Grapesoda
        so you guys are big proponents of giving away money to people that do not earn money for a myriad of reasons... in financial terms that is called distributing capital with out compensation... how did the tubes work out for you?
        Way to compare oranges and latex gloves.
        How do you feel about large tubes not paying out any money to you as content producer? I mean income tax. Or what ever.

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        • Paul Markham
          Too old to care
          • Jun 2001
          • 52942

          #5
          As technology progresses there will be no alternative but to share more with those who can't get a job that pays a decent wage.

          Tubes killed many businesses because most of the money spent was going to a small sector of the business. As the big ones harvest more of the traffic small tubes will whither.

          As big dating, cam, porn sites get bigger and crush small ones. Many people will lose jobs and income.

          As robots replace human workers, what happens to our customer base, will they be too poor to buy enough to sustain our income, or subsidised so we can still sell?

          You can't keep saying fuck them, I'm alright Jack.

          We are seeing a massive drop in real incomes since we started to export jobs, the future will need 21st thinking.



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          • Joshua G
            dumb libs love censorship
            • Jul 2008
            • 8198

            #6
            Originally posted by Paul Markham
            We are seeing a massive drop in real incomes since we started to export jobs, the future will need 21st thinking.
            & where is this 21st century thinking going to come from? the US public schools that train children that white people are born racist? the new math?

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            • Barry-xlovecam
              It's 42
              • Jun 2010
              • 18083

              #7
              Originally posted by BlackCrayon
              its either that or support those in bed with the religious right. neither is a good option.

              in the end we all have to accept that you will have to give away your hard earned money to do nothings to keep them complacent. take it away and they won't work for it, they'll just take it by whatever means necessary. i don't like it any more than you.
              I agree this this and will add that if the religious right would ever succeed in their goals none of us involved with porn or other explicit adult entertainment (cams, dating) would be allowed to make money with our business models.

              I don't believe in cutting off my nose to spite my own face.

              That said, I disagree with both parties pandering to their special interests. I want all money redistributed to my class of voter

              Stop looking for answers were there are none and try to earn more -- even if you only get to keep half of it. The half empty or half full conundrum ...

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              • MaDalton
                I am Amazing Content!
                • Feb 2004
                • 39861

                #8
                i'd think it's easy - since 8 years there have been no new 2257 inspections and porn was a non-issue.

                and then we have the party that declared our business a public health issue - the same people that get occasionally caught fucking little boys "because satan made them do it"

                and blaming tubes alone is very shortsighted
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                • kkkkkk
                  svp get banned svp
                  • Dec 2005
                  • 1628

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                  I agree this this and will add that if the religious right would ever succeed in their goals none of us involved with porn or other explicit adult entertainment (cams, dating) would be allowed to make money with our business models.

                  I don't believe in cutting off my nose to spite my own face.

                  That said, I disagree with both parties pandering to their special interests. I want all money redistributed to my class of voter

                  Stop looking for answers were there are none and try to earn more -- even if you only get to keep half of it. The half empty or half full conundrum ...

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                  • kkkkkk
                    svp get banned svp
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 1628

                    #10

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                    • trevesty
                      Confirmed User
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 3810

                      #11
                      Originally posted by MaDalton
                      i'd think it's easy - since 8 years there have been no new 2257 inspections and porn was a non-issue.

                      and then we have the party that declared our business a public health issue - the same people that get occasionally caught fucking little boys "because satan made them do it"

                      and blaming tubes alone is very shortsighted
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                      • crockett
                        in a van by the river
                        • May 2003
                        • 76818

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Grapesoda
                        so you guys are big proponents of giving away money to people that do not earn money for a myriad of reasons... in financial terms that is called distributing capital with out compensation... how did the tubes work out for you?
                        Meanwhile you support Republicans who give money away to their corporate masters while fucking the tax payer at every turn..

                        How did manwin taking everything over work for you?
                        In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                        • 2MuchMark
                          Mark of 2Much.net
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 50981

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Joshua G
                          liberals in porn are too busy trying to force performers to wear condoms. prop 60!


                          Actually, Liberals in porn are quite happy. We're working hard, making money, and enjoying life.

                          The paranoid haters like you on the other hand...

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                          • C H R I S
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 10842

                            #14
                            Like you Trumpers work in the business... lol.
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                            • Grapesoda
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 46238

                              #15
                              Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                              its either that or support those in bed with the religious right. neither is a good option.

                              in the end we all have to accept that you will have to give away your hard earned money to do nothings to keep them complacent. take it away and they won't work for it, they'll just take it by whatever means necessary. i don't like it any more than you.
                              I agree... I know the economy is getting worse from just looking around, seeing all the closed business etc.... I see those with out money extorting money from those that do with threats of violence... political correctness and 'diversity' being the common tools used for this endeavor.

                              with less than half the population even paying federal tax I don't see it getting much better with the people that do not pay taxes demanding tax money... or fucking else... the tubes are a dream business model compared to our social economic situation.

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                              • Grapesoda
                                So Fucking Banned
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 46238

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Joshua G
                                liberals in porn are too busy trying to force performers to wear condoms. prop 60!

                                and start a performers union lol!!

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                                • Grapesoda
                                  So Fucking Banned
                                  • Jul 2003
                                  • 46238

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Horatio Caine
                                  Way to compare oranges and latex gloves.
                                  How do you feel about large tubes not paying out any money to you as content producer? I mean income tax. Or what ever.
                                  I'm stating that distribution of assets without compensation is a negative situation and bad for an economy... I'm not sure about your stance.... I've been shooting for 16 years, and I have personally witnessed the advent of tubes/piracy and the collapse of the economy.

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                                  • Grapesoda
                                    So Fucking Banned
                                    • Jul 2003
                                    • 46238

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                    As technology progresses there will be no alternative but to share more with those who can't get a job that pays a decent wage.

                                    Tubes killed many businesses because most of the money spent was going to a small sector of the business. As the big ones harvest more of the traffic small tubes will whither.

                                    As big dating, cam, porn sites get bigger and crush small ones. Many people will lose jobs and income.

                                    As robots replace human workers, what happens to our customer base, will they be too poor to buy enough to sustain our income, or subsidised so we can still sell?

                                    You can't keep saying fuck them, I'm alright Jack.

                                    We are seeing a massive drop in real incomes since we started to export jobs, the future will need 21st thinking.
                                    lots of jobs leaving CZ?

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                                    • Grapesoda
                                      So Fucking Banned
                                      • Jul 2003
                                      • 46238

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Joshua G
                                      & where is this 21st century thinking going to come from? the US public schools that train children that white people are born racist? the new math?

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                                      • Grapesoda
                                        So Fucking Banned
                                        • Jul 2003
                                        • 46238

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                                        I agree this this and will add that if the religious right would ever succeed in their goals none of us involved with porn or other explicit adult entertainment (cams, dating) would be allowed to make money with our business models.

                                        I don't believe in cutting off my nose to spite my own face.

                                        That said, I disagree with both parties pandering to their special interests. I want all money redistributed to my class of voter

                                        Stop looking for answers were there are none and try to earn more -- even if you only get to keep half of it. The half empty or half full conundrum ...
                                        I'm thinking too much money is involved now for the religious right, which by the way is very separate from financial conservatism, to be able to do anything like that with out a civil war.

                                        proof being that gay marriages were not passed by a vote in California. a state judge canceled the vote and personally made gay marriages legal in California. a similar situation is Los Angeles in the 90's, voters passed a bill that would stop benefits to illegal aliens. the Los Angels City Council sued and got the bill over turned.

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                                        • Grapesoda
                                          So Fucking Banned
                                          • Jul 2003
                                          • 46238

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by MaDalton
                                          i'd think it's easy - since 8 years there have been no new 2257 inspections and porn was a non-issue.

                                          and then we have the party that declared our business a public health issue - the same people that get occasionally caught fucking little boys "because satan made them do it"

                                          and blaming tubes alone is very shortsighted
                                          I have heard of the conspiracy the church working with homosexual advocacy groups to push condoms and attack porn... never really gave it much thought... but you don't have a party doing this do you? I thought this was an American thing not affecting you in CZ? were I you I would not give the matter a thought.

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                                          • Grapesoda
                                            So Fucking Banned
                                            • Jul 2003
                                            • 46238

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by crockett
                                            Meanwhile you support Republicans who give money away to their corporate masters while fucking the tax payer at every turn..

                                            How did manwin taking everything over work for you?
                                            where did you get this information that I support republicans? and the vulgarity....

                                            the US government took over 50% for years and years, manwin really hasn't affected my business nearly as much as condoms. there are few reliable, quality content producers. just ask Ma.

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                                            • MaDalton
                                              I am Amazing Content!
                                              • Feb 2004
                                              • 39861

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Grapesoda
                                              I have heard of the conspiracy the church working with homosexual advocacy groups to push condoms and attack porn... never really gave it much thought... but you don't have a party doing this do you? I thought this was an American thing not affecting you in CZ? were I you I would not give the matter a thought.
                                              2257 laws and inspections do affect me a lot - and my clients
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                                              • Joshua G
                                                dumb libs love censorship
                                                • Jul 2008
                                                • 8198

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                i'd think it's easy - since 8 years there have been no new 2257 inspections and porn was a non-issue.

                                                and then we have the party that declared our business a public health issue - the same people that get occasionally caught fucking little boys "because satan made them do it"

                                                and blaming tubes alone is very shortsighted
                                                why is mr censorship discussing laws that dont effect his country? shouldnt you be busy trying to ban GFY posters you dont like?

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                                                • Grapesoda
                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                  • 46238

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by MarkPrince
                                                  Actually, Liberals in porn are quite happy. We're working hard, making money, and enjoying life.

                                                  The paranoid haters like you on the other hand...
                                                  the tubes benefitted your business because you sell live interface. you are certainly the wrong one to speak of the damage from tubes Mark.

                                                  how you arrived at the conclusion that I'm paranoid or a hater is something you might want to consider... you have reality twisted to some strange and completely untrue world.

                                                  this is why I seldom take you comments seriously and beside if everything got a bit smoother down here, how would you make yourself feel superior?

                                                  and here is a direct question: how much money should everyone give up, even you. 80%? 85%? 40%? what's your thought?

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                                                  • Grapesoda
                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                    • Jul 2003
                                                    • 46238

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                    2257 laws and inspections do affect me a lot - and my clients
                                                    yes they do and those have been pretty quiet and that's good, condom will only help your business model.

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                                                    • MaDalton
                                                      I am Amazing Content!
                                                      • Feb 2004
                                                      • 39861

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Grapesoda
                                                      yes they do and those have been pretty quiet and that's good, condom will only help your business model.
                                                      that is certainly up to interpretation - some said Prop 60 would affect all content made available in California

                                                      also I do not wish harm onto others just for my personal benefit

                                                      i wish that our industry prospers, new technologies will open totaly new opportunities and the last thing i need is politics to get involved even more than already
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                                                      Monetize your content on Veegaz.com - one of Germanies largest VOD sites
                                                      Got German traffic? We convert it into money for you!
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                                                      • Grapesoda
                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                        • Jul 2003
                                                        • 46238

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                        that is certainly up to interpretation - some said Prop 60 would affect all content made available in California

                                                        also I do not wish harm onto others just for my personal benefit

                                                        i wish that our industry prospers, new technologies will open totaly new opportunities and the last thing i need is politics to get involved even more than already
                                                        yes prop 60 will doom porn in cally for sure, ma I haven't shot sex for almost 3 years and I couldn't be happier... only a few people I know enjoy shooting sex, to most of us it's just a very difficult job filled with flakes. although I will say I have met some really wonderful women and some cool guys as well... like any biz, choose who you work with if possible.

                                                        unfortunately politics are and always will be involved because there is money to be made and porn is low hanging fruit. I'm more concerned about internet freedom than I am about porn freedom. we both know that porn is going to predominantly user generated. my advice is back out now while you have time to build a new business model.

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                                                        • Joshua G
                                                          dumb libs love censorship
                                                          • Jul 2008
                                                          • 8198

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by MaDalton

                                                          also I do not wish harm onto others just for my personal benefit
                                                          you mean like when you want people banned off this board because you want the forum to be more business-like?

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                                                          • flashfire
                                                            ICQ 1 6 7 8 5 3 4 9 2
                                                            • Feb 2003
                                                            • 13098

                                                            #30
                                                            Go ask Mike Pence what he thinks about our industry...the real day to day president should Trump win

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                                                            • crockett
                                                              in a van by the river
                                                              • May 2003
                                                              • 76818

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Grapesoda
                                                              the tubes benefitted your business because you sell live interface. you are certainly the wrong one to speak of the damage from tubes Mark.

                                                              how you arrived at the conclusion that I'm paranoid or a hater is something you might want to consider... you have reality twisted to some strange and completely untrue world.

                                                              this is why I seldom take you comments seriously and beside if everything got a bit smoother down here, how would you make yourself feel superior?

                                                              and here is a direct question: how much money should everyone give up, even you. 80%? 85%? 40%? what's your thought?

                                                              How much did that George Bush 2257 affect your business and how much money did it take the industry to fight but yea you ignore that.. You also ignore the fact Trump has actually signed a pledge to fight online porn.. but boohoo liberals!!!
                                                              In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                                              • Grapesoda
                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                • Jul 2003
                                                                • 46238

                                                                #32
                                                                2257 cost me some paper and a few file cabinits... you?

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