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  • BlackCrayon
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Jun 2003
    • 19634

    #16
    Originally posted by Vendot
    Putin seems very reasonable and sadly, he is absolutely right. Western populations are badly brainwashed.
    I find it hilarious that people like yourself say this and act like you have more freedom in places like Dubai than in America or other western countries. Yes, I'm sure people living under dictatorships and other oppressive governments are all wise to the real goings on in the world.
    you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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    • just a punk
      So fuckin' bored
      • Jun 2003
      • 32393

      #17
      Originally posted by BlackCrayon
      I find it hilarious that people like yourself say this and act like you have more freedom in places like Dubai than in America or other western countries. Yes, I'm sure people living under dictatorships and other oppressive governments are all wise to the real goings on in the world.
      Just curious... A freedom to do what? Which exactly freedoms you have in the States that other countries have not? if you what to learn what REAL freedom is, go visit Europe. You Americans have no idea about freedom, because almost everything you can do here, is forbidden in your country. Gambling is illegal. Prostitution is illegal. Serving alcohol in strip clubs is forbidden. Filming cops on duty is forbidden. Smoking on the beach is forbidden. Drinking beer on public is forbidden. Having opened beer in the car is forbidden. I don't understand why do you guys are still allowed to breath...



      Land of the free, my ass...
      Obey the Cowgod

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      • BlackCrayon
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Jun 2003
        • 19634

        #18
        Originally posted by CyberSEO
        Just curious... Freedom to do what? Which exactly freedoms you have in the States that other countries have not? if you what to learn what REAL freedom is, go visit Europe. You Americans have no idea about freedom, because almost everything you can do here, is forbidden in your country. Gambling is illegal. Prostitution is illegal. Serving alcohol in strip clubs is forbidden. Filming cops on duty is forbidden. Smoking on the beach is forbidden. Drinking beer on public is forbidden. I don't understand why do you guys are still allowed to breath...
        Oh but wait, everything and more is "forbidden" in your country but just not enforced...until they want to get you on something and suddenly you're in shit.

        edit: alex jones? infowars..really? the guy is a joke. just look at the way he does his shows. He's acting.
        you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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        • PR_Glen
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          • Oct 2006
          • 9058

          #19
          Originally posted by charlie g
          It's pretty clear the final objective of the globalists.
          zero motive... no chance..
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          • just a punk
            So fuckin' bored
            • Jun 2003
            • 32393

            #20
            Originally posted by BlackCrayon
            alex jones? infowars..really? the guy is a joke. just look at the way he does his shows. He's acting.
            https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/111/s510/text

            Originally posted by BlackCrayon
            Oh but wait, everything and more is "forbidden" in your country but just not enforced...until they want to get you on something and suddenly you're in shit.
            I don't want to wait for something. Tell me what exactly you can do in the States what I'm not allowed to do here. I'm not interesting in abstract discussion about some abstract bullshit. I have named a list of things that are ok here, but illegal in the States and I can continue. Now tell me what is allowed in the land of the free and is NOT allowed here. According to the law. Once again: no abstract bullshit please.

            P.S. As about the list above. Nothing is forbidden here. It's not just "not enforced". Excluding a gambling - it's really illegal in most of Russian regions (not everywhere), but it's legal in many other European countries. Even in Belorussia.
            Obey the Cowgod

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            • BlackCrayon
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Jun 2003
              • 19634

              #21
              Originally posted by CyberSEO
              https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/111/s510/text



              I don't want to wait for something. Tell me what exactly you can do in the States what I'm not allowed to do here. I'm not interesting in abstract discussion about some abstract bullshit. I have named a list of things that are ok here, but illegal in the States and I can continue. Now tell me what is allowed in the land of the free and is NOT allowed here. According to the law. Once again: no abstract bullshit please.
              For one thing, I am not an American. I am Canadian and the majority of things you listed are legal here. There have been a number of discussions on things that are illegal in Russia that you say no one cares about and are not enforced but at the end of the day, they are still illegal. Regardless my comment was not so much towards Russia as other countries with much more strict access to information.
              you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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              • just a punk
                So fuckin' bored
                • Jun 2003
                • 32393

                #22
                Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                There have been a number of discussions on things that are illegal in Russia that you say no one cares about and are not enforced but at the end of the day, they are still illegal.
                I have no idea about those discussions where Canadians tell each other various fairy tails about Russia. If you know something what is allowed in Canada but forbidden in Russia (by the law), please don't be shy and enlighten me please. I'm still waiting and very excited...

                Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                Regardless my comment was not so much towards Russia as other countries with much more strict access to information.
                Really? And how do you imagine this? Don't we have the Internet? Don't we have independent press and television? Don't we have Euronews, BBC, DW, France24, NBC etc in the basic digital TV packages? Are those channels somehow censored? Please explain, because I didn't get it.

                When you speak about something, please make sure post the facts.
                Obey the Cowgod

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                • BlackCrayon
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 19634

                  #23
                  Originally posted by CyberSEO
                  I have no idea about those discussions where Canadians tell each other various fairy tails about Russia. If you know something what is allowed in Canada but forbidden in Russia (by the law), please don't be shy and enlighten me please. I'm still waiting and very excited...



                  Really? And how do you imagine this? Don't we have the Internet? Don't we have independent press and television? Don't we have Euronews, BBC, DW, France24, NBC etc in the basic digital TV packages? Are those channels somehow censored? Please explain, because I didn't get it.

                  When you speak about something, please make sure post the facts.
                  I don't know what you are going on. If I had time to waste I could pull up the posts where you talk about things illegal in Russia that "no one cares about" but I just don't care. You can think what you want and post nonsense. Its all fine with me.

                  I was never discussing what is legal or illegal...simply saying that people like Vendot who lives in Dubai somehow thinks the west is more "brainwashed" than than those in UAE is funny to me..
                  you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                  • Sarn
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                    • Sep 2015
                    • 12405

                    #24
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                    • just a punk
                      So fuckin' bored
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 32393

                      #25
                      Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                      I don't know what you are going on. If I had time to waste I could pull up the posts where you talk about things illegal in Russia that "no one cares about" but I just don't care. You can think what you want and post nonsense. Its all fine with me.
                      No, that's a very different thing. In those posts I was talking about things that are officially forbidden but not enforced. Like smoking in the office, taxi service w/o a license, making money on house renting and avoiding taxes for that etc. I do believe all those things are forbidden in most of other countries too (including yours), but they are really not enforced here.

                      Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                      I was never discussing what is legal or illegal...simply saying that people like Vendot who lives in Dubai somehow thinks the west is more "brainwashed" than than those in UAE is funny to me..
                      Dubai is also no that strict place as you may think. It has a double-standard law system which says: things that are allowed to foreigns are not allowed to locals.
                      Obey the Cowgod

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                      • woj
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                        • Jul 2002
                        • 47882

                        #26
                        Russia Quietly Tightens Reins on Web With ‘Bloggers Law’
                        Russia enacts 'draconian' law for bloggers and online media - BBC News

                        but let me guess, that law is a joke, no one takes it seriously, fine is only $5, etc...
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                        • just a punk
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                          • Jun 2003
                          • 32393

                          #27
                          Originally posted by woj
                          Russia Quietly Tightens Reins on Web With ‘Bloggers Law’
                          Russia enacts 'draconian' law for bloggers and online media - BBC News

                          but let me guess, that law is a joke, no one takes it seriously, fine is only $5, etc...
                          I didn't get it again. What exactly this "law" does forbid? What is the punishment for avoiding them? Do those laws somehow making something illegal which is legal somewhere else?

                          It's just another bullshit which says: if you have more than some thousands of visitors on your blog per a month, you have to register your site as a news media. The questions are: how would you know how many visitors I have? What will you do if I tell you "fuck off"? What will you do to me? Send me to a jail? No, because it's not a crime. Fine me? No again, because it's not a crime. Now I'll tell you what does it mean. When you register your blog as a news media (it's a free procedure), you will get ALL the possibilities which were available to the official news media only. E.f. you will be able to visit the places "for media only". You will be able to start instigation procedures. You'll be protected by the law as a journalist etc... For example, if someone will break your camera or microphone, it's just a property damage. If someone do it when you are registered as a news media, the same damage will be considered as an obstruction of journalists, which is a serious crime that leads to a jail time.
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                          • woj
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                            • Jul 2002
                            • 47882

                            #28
                            Originally posted by CyberSEO
                            I didn't get it again. What exactly those laws forbid? What is the punishment for avoiding them? Do those laws somehow making something illegal which is legal somewhere else?
                            it makes it illegal to operate a sufficiently popular blog without registering with the government first... I haven't heard of any civilized country where you have to register your blog with the government? have you?

                            Originally posted by CyberSEO
                            It's just another bullshit which says: if you have more than some thousands of visitors on your blog per a month, you have to register your site as a news media. The questions are: how would you know how many visitors I have? What will you do if I tell you "fuck off"? What will you do to me? Send me to a jail? No, because it's not a crime. Fine me? No again, because it's not a crime. Now I'll tell you what does it mean. When you register your blog as a news media (it's a free procedure), you will get ALL the possibilities which were available to the official news media only. E.f. you will be able to visit the places "for media only". You will be able to start instigation procedures. You'll be protected by the law as a journalist etc... For example, if someone will break your camera or microphone, it's just a property damage. If someone do it when you are registered as a news media, the same damage will be considered as an obstruction of journalists, which is a serious crime that leads to a jail time.
                            it may perhaps give you some rights, but it also makes you responsible for what you publish... you can no longer publish some wild conspiracy theories without proof, can't publish anything anti-russian, etc...

                            while the whole world recognizes that freedom of speech is important, you guys create new laws that start to restrict it, even if in a very meaningless sense like this new law...
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                            • just a punk
                              So fuckin' bored
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 32393

                              #29
                              Originally posted by woj
                              it makes it illegal to operate a sufficiently popular blog without registering with the government first...
                              No it's not. If you know a criminal code which makes it illegal, please post it.

                              Here is an example: navalny.com/ - a blog that belongs to the worst Putin's enemy in Russia - Alexy Navalny. He has millions of followers (BTW he's office is located just near my home ;)). Have he registered his blog somehow? No. Can Putin do anything to him for that? No again. I have a lot of blogs. Do I register them? Course no, like 99,999999% of others here. Why? Because there is no criminal penalty for that. The people who register their blogs as media, do it for the befits that belong to journalists only. I don't need those benefits, so I don't register anything.
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                              • woj
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                                • Jul 2002
                                • 47882

                                #30
                                Originally posted by CyberSEO
                                No it's not. If you know a criminal code which makes it illegal, please post it.

                                Here is an example. https://navalny.com/ is the blog that belongs to the worst Putin's enemy in Russia - Alexy Navalny. He has millions of followers. Have he registered his blog somehow? No. Can Putin do anything to him for that? No again. I have a lot of blogs. Do I register them? Course no, like 99,999999% of others here. Why? Because there is no criminal penalty for that. The people who register their blogs as media, do it for the befits that belong to journalists only. I don't need those benefits, so I don't register anything.
                                that's not the point, you said there are no laws restricting your freedoms in Russia... when in fact there are, maybe you won't go to jail over it, but if you can get fined over it it's "illegal"...

                                it's not enforced now, but any day it could be, you could piss someone off, and they could fine you up to 30,000 rubles for each blog, which if you have dozens would quickly ruin you...
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