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  • galavance
    Registered User
    • Sep 2016
    • 82

    #16
    THE most annoying thing to me is that you have to wait to view how things are working..

    so my clicks/ traffic has died off. i haven't been throwing my links out like i was on twitter so theyre being buried by newer posts. i also changed my website around to something i thought was more effective

    because i could tell that people weren't clicking around my website. i decided to throw chaturbate live cams on the front page. clicks were better.

    but my first page was also comprised of MFC material, so i thought it was confusing to go to a site with "cams" in it and then have material to one channel, and then material to another channel..all on the front page.

    so i took the embedded live cams off and made a "live cams" page and yet.. chaturbate has 3 clicks today. ive been averaging 30-50 since day 1 ive promoted them

    lawd

    i cant tell whether its non promotion on twitter or the design of my site (which should be better imo)

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    • sarettah
      see you later, I'm gone
      • Oct 2002
      • 14293

      #17
      I don't see u putting a url out there for anybody to take a look at your site. Easier to give advice if we know what we are advising on. Can't tell how you sit in the SEs and stuff like that so it is very hard to give you any meaningful recommendations.

      So I will stick with the worn out cliches. Never give up. Never surrender.

      Nanu nanu.


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      • galavance
        Registered User
        • Sep 2016
        • 82

        #18
        Originally posted by sarettah
        I don't see u putting a url out there for anybody to take a look at your site. Easier to give advice if we know what we are advising on. Can't tell how you sit in the SEs and stuff like that so it is very hard to give you any meaningful recommendations.

        So I will stick with the worn out cliches. Never give up. Never surrender.

        Nanu nanu.


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        yes, i appreciate that.

        im debating about whether i should throw out my url..

        i think i want to fix some things first

        i do not rank in google. as i got a dmca thing that removed it from google from one of the cam models. i do not think its valid though as it's not the cam site who instigated it.

        i could fight it or prob have it reviewed but i wanted to make more $$ through social media before doing so

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        • sarettah
          see you later, I'm gone
          • Oct 2002
          • 14293

          #19
          Originally posted by galavance
          yes, i appreciate that.

          im debating about whether i should throw out my url..

          i think i want to fix some things first

          i do not rank in google. as i got a dmca thing that removed it from google from one of the cam models. i do not think its valid though as it's not the cam site who instigated it.

          i could fight it or prob have it reviewed but i wanted to make more $$ through social media before doing so
          Get rid of the image or movie that earned you the dmca first of all. Don't worry about whether the dmca came from the right place or not, just get rid of it. You don't need the hassle.

          Then just use stuff you have the rights to. Stuff provided by the sponsor or purchased through a reputable content source.

          If you do cam videos without the cam models or cam sites permission you are liable to lose your sponsor over it and usually they do that after you have built up some payout but before it pays out, ya know?

          Always best to not have people coming after you because you decided to do an end around on the rules.

          Your best bet for getting converting traffic is to get into the SEs, build backlinks, play the SEO game. Best traffic out there.

          just imho.

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          • galavance
            Registered User
            • Sep 2016
            • 82

            #20
            Originally posted by sarettah
            Get rid of the image or movie that earned you the dmca first of all. Don't worry about whether the dmca came from the right place or not, just get rid of it. You don't need the hassle.

            Then just use stuff you have the rights to. Stuff provided by the sponsor or purchased through a reputable content source.

            If you do cam videos without the cam models or cam sites permission you are liable to lose your sponsor over it and usually they do that after you have built up some payout but before it pays out, ya know?

            Always best to not have people coming after you because you decided to do an end around on the rules.

            Your best bet for getting converting traffic is to get into the SEs, build backlinks, play the SEO game. Best traffic out there.

            just imho.

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            honestly, if that's what it comes to man.. ill prob just quit and start something else

            MFC has ZERO promotional tools. I edited vids down to less than 5 minutes and link directly to their room

            and i see all of this talk about tubes, and all that jazz

            hell, over on blackhatworld guys making decent money from porn reuploading..

            there's so much of it going on that i tried to utilize it myself. i am not a content producer

            HOWEVER, I have tried to sign up as an affiliate at most of these places funneling them money. there are some organizational kinks i (would) have to work out but i haven't done so yet

            i also have ideas of other sites id start, but im not sure how effective it is considering what we're talking about.

            just signed up on pimproll so that may be a way to utilize stuff differently as well

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            • celandina
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Jun 2006
              • 11715

              #21
              Originally posted by celandina
              I am not clear if you are actually making content or just recycle everybody's shit...
              I get it, just recycling and stealing others shit....
              Go work parking cars...

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              • galavance
                Registered User
                • Sep 2016
                • 82

                #22
                Originally posted by celandina
                I get it, just recycling and stealing others shit....
                Go work parking cars...
                explain to me what an affiliate marketer does? if the cam models were so smart they'd realize they're only hurting themselves and in fact are actually MAKING themselves money by spreading the word. god forbid the terms worked out for the affiliate marketing company in which im sure they profit in some capacity but the customer also spends money on the particular model giving them money directly

                secondly, you sound like a bitter porn star. lol'd at morality play within this industry.

                while you're at it explain to me the nuances of social media and whether they would exist in their capacity if it weren't for what you're talking about.

                because im so positive everybody wants to hear everybody's shower thoughts and most people are so important they want everybody to be privy to their grandiose lifestyle

                yea, im totally positive facebook, tumblr, twitter and the internet as a whole would have taken off if that were the case

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                • amateurcanada
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jul 2001
                  • 3766

                  #23
                  Originally posted by galavance
                  I don't know if my stats are good and I still have to wait or if I should just delete all of my work and do something else.

                  I have a website in which I tried to utilize affiliate offers in a different manner than banners and stuff. Honestly, there's still a lot of work left in it but I DO NOT want to put the time in for peanuts.

                  I have made $22.00 in my crakrev account since June. I have 12.3k REAL followers on twitter, every single one is real, but I can tell they just love getting free porn. I did 4m impressions and 400k profile visits last month. This month I'm on the same track with 1.7m impressions and 70k profile visits

                  I have one free registration of revshare on chaturbate ( i haven't been doing them long. maybe 7 days).

                  I do believe, on the whole, my conversion % is better than most.

                  but my twitter is really the only traffic source I've worked on and it's not really good. as I said, people just love me throwing out free porn for them and I dont really see any conversions..

                  I can not keep spending time making crap, but I also don't know if my stuff is burgeoning and I'm making a mistake throwing away everything that I've done thus far.

                  My next plans would be to make more niche specific twitter and try to funnel my existing twitters users to there. While adding more to my site (but again, i cant justify continually working on it without seeing a big payoff)
                  I would recommend on concentrating on that ONE IDEA or CONCEPT that actually makes money or converts. If you find one thing on your network that works then just make hybrids of the same thing times 100 and multiply your success. From there you can see what works for you and move from there

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                  • celandina
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Jun 2006
                    • 11715

                    #24
                    Originally posted by galavance
                    explain to me what an affiliate marketer does? if the cam models were so smart they'd realize they're only hurting themselves and in fact are actually MAKING themselves money by spreading the word. god forbid the terms worked out for the affiliate marketing company in which im sure they profit in some capacity but the customer also spends money on the particular model giving them money directly

                    secondly, you sound like a bitter porn star. lol'd at morality play within this industry.

                    while you're at it explain to me the nuances of social media and whether they would exist in their capacity if it weren't for what you're talking about.

                    because im so positive everybody wants to hear everybody's shower thoughts and most people are so important they want everybody to be privy to their grandiose lifestyle

                    yea, im totally positive facebook, tumblr, twitter and the internet as a whole would have taken off if that were the case

                    Your OP stated you have a website. Website means content. The content can be original or recycled. That was my question, which you did not answer and now you bitch about only wanting a postivie feedback. Positive for what?? So now you are whining and not giving any info.

                    ... And no, I am no pornstar but run content sites, recycling none.

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                    • galavance
                      Registered User
                      • Sep 2016
                      • 82

                      #25
                      Originally posted by celandina
                      Your OP stated you have a website. Website means content. The content can be original or recycled. That was my question, which you did not answer and now you bitch about only wanting a postivie feedback. Positive for what?? So now you are whining and not giving any info.

                      ... And no, I am no pornstar but run content sites, recycling none.
                      it's a mix of both.. and im quite mad at MFC because they have ZERO promotional tools for their affiliates, especially as compared to many others. I tried to utilize their stuff in a different capacity, but im not sure i'll bother

                      I was always a fan but after no response and little help I have fallen off the bandwagon.

                      Now its a matter of deciding whether all of that is worth it. I was getting ready to write hundreds of reviews

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                      • galavance
                        Registered User
                        • Sep 2016
                        • 82

                        #26
                        Originally posted by amateurcanada
                        I would recommend on concentrating on that ONE IDEA or CONCEPT that actually makes money or converts. If you find one thing on your network that works then just make hybrids of the same thing times 100 and multiply your success. From there you can see what works for you and move from there
                        i agree.. i appreciate it

                        also, this is not to you but in regards to a question celendina proposed and more a general statement

                        i wasn't looking for "positive reviews"

                        i was trying to ascertain how long it took people to make money. as I said i couldn't continue to work on this without seeing a payoff. I was trying to see how how long, how much time they spent, how many websites etc. in order to start seeing decent money

                        i would be happy with just 10 dollars a day as at the very least i'd know its producing something.

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                        • MegaSexyCams
                          Registered User
                          • Aug 2016
                          • 17

                          #27
                          I've been at this game for 2 months and I haven't made a dime. I'm not discouraged as I think I'm just scratching the surface of what can be achieved.
                          My time frame is 6 months, if nothing after six months I must be be really doing something wrong.
                          There is so much to learn, it's hard as there is no "Dummies" book. Everyone keeps there cards close to their chest, which is understandable. So it's not like you can ask a "porn consultant" to evaluate your website(s) and social media efforts and give you a report back detailing what your doing right and what your doing wrong.
                          Just my thoughts...
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                          • AutoTubeTool
                            Registered User
                            • Sep 2016
                            • 9

                            #28
                            Just a few words on the subject:

                            - Twitter do not convert today, neither Tumblr or Pintrest, for the simple reason that there is way to much free content available and to much spam. Some times I am asking myself if there are any real persons left on Twitter between all bots running 24/7

                            - From my experience 0.5 CPM is quite a "standard", but that do not mean conversion rate, you have to put in account probable another 0.1 PM, so basically, until you don't generate huge traffic chances are minimal to zero to earn anything

                            - You try to make a business in a market segment that did not come up yesterday. Your not on a virgin land .. there is a lot of competition.
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                            • galavance
                              Registered User
                              • Sep 2016
                              • 82

                              #29
                              Originally posted by AutoTubeTool
                              Just a few words on the subject:

                              - Twitter do not convert today, neither Tumblr or Pintrest, for the simple reason that there is way to much free content available and to much spam. Some times I am asking myself if there are any real persons left on Twitter between all bots running 24/7

                              - From my experience 0.5 CPM is quite a "standard", but that do not mean conversion rate, you have to put in account probable another 0.1 PM, so basically, until you don't generate huge traffic chances are minimal to zero to earn anything

                              - You try to make a business in a market segment that did not come up yesterday. Your not on a virgin land .. there is a lot of competition.
                              I agree a lot. Thats what i think of the entire internet actually. Thats why niche research is paramount

                              There is zero chance you replace top dog buying/ selling millions in adverts that are also trying to keep you down

                              It does seem you either make a lot of money, or little money on the internet.

                              Also, all of my twitter users are real. I used tweepi and narrowed down the search function for active users

                              It wasnt great but i think my twitter qas greater than avg. If i had multiple i could see it being more effective, which is what most people do

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                              • achristopher
                                Confirmed User
                                • Feb 2014
                                • 127

                                #30
                                Personally, I'd stay away from Crakrev. I've never had much luck with them and I've tried them. I'd go with JuicyAds.

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