Trump just got his ass handed to him..

[2MuchMark]

Ouch! Fucking ouch!

From The Atlantic : 'The Atlantic' Editors Endorse Hillary Clinton for President - The Atlantic

Donald Trump has no record of public service and no qualifications for public office. His affect is that of an infomercial huckster; he traffics in conspiracy theories and racist invective; he is appallingly sexist; he is erratic, secretive, and xenophobic; he expresses admiration for authoritarian rulers, and evinces authoritarian tendencies himself. He is easily goaded, a poor quality for someone seeking control of America’s nuclear arsenal. He is an enemy of fact-based discourse; he is ignorant of, and indifferent to, the Constitution; he appears not to read.

All true, but still, Ouch!

[oppoten]

(((The Editors)))

[TampaToker]

Ouch! Fucking ouch!

From The Atlantic : 'The Atlantic' Editors Endorse Hillary Clinton for President - The Atlantic



All true, but still, Ouch!

And you know what even if all the was still true i would still vote vote for Trump to send a message to each one of the politicians left and right. The government works for all of us not just there supporters. The media as well is biased on both side and they should be frigin ashamed of themselves calling themselves journalist. Into the American people pull there head out of there asses and actually pay attention wtf is going on its gonna be the same shit different day. As history has show all empire fall at one time. Might not be now might not be in 10 years but it will happen.

[onwebcam]

Holt shit, Trump should throw in the towel, a magazine most people have never heard of doesn't like him.

[2MuchMark]

Holt shit, Trump should throw in the towel, a magazine most people have never heard of doesn't like him.

Ugh... seriously? it's only been around since 1857.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Atlantic

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[2MuchMark]

And you know what even if all the was still true i would still vote vote for Trump to send a message to each one of the politicians left and right.

How is voting for a liar, a racist, etc, sending anything but a negative message?

[Relic]

(((The Editors)))

[TampaToker]

How is voting for a liar, a racist, etc, sending anything but a negative message?

So i should vote for a lying, pandering, flip flopping con artist that has has been in politics for 35 years. I have to vote for one of these two running cause if do't then i aint no better the 57.5% of eligible voter's that didn't vote in 2012 that constantly bitch about the other party and what they did bla bla

The message is to the establishment left and right fuck you we are not falling for your bullshit no more. These fuckers work for us not the other way around. Seriously its 2016 and these are the best 2 candidates we could come up with to run for president? I don't give a fuck who bill clinton fucked or who trump called a fat slob. I compared both of there policy's and i agree with Trumps over Clintons. Now will either of there policy's be put in place as history shows once they get in those policy's goes right out the window. But if you do not vote you do not have a right to bitch

[Seth Manson]

Writer doesn't know the difference between affect and effect, so his opinion doesn't matter.

[Relic]

Writer doesn't know the difference between affect and effect, so his opinion doesn't matter.

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[Joshua G]

more evidence that the OP only hears what he wants to hear.

i think its safe to say the OPs source is severely biased, not reality. just like the clown polls that put hilary in the lead when she cant fill a high school gym.

why doesnt she have any rallies this week mark? too sick? or too sick of nobody showing up for her???

[onwebcam]

How is voting for a liar, a racist, etc, sending anything but a negative message?

You really should quit portraying Hillary Goldwater Girl I didn't know what the C stands for Clinton in a negative way.

[nico-t]

How is voting for a liar, a racist, etc, sending anything but a negative message?

And here we go again with the racist remark. Do you have any facts to back up that statement? Aside from the many minorities he created jobs for? What a racist!

If you seriously believe Trump is a racist you're completely insane.

And please don't even mention 'liar'. His opponent is Hillary Clinton. Enough said.

[NewNick]

And here we go again with the racist remark. Do you have any facts to back up that statement? Aside from the many minorities he created jobs for? What a racist!

If you seriously believe Trump is a racist you're completely insane.

How about calling Miss Universe names like Miss Housekeeping ?

If you make racist remarks like that people are within their rights to suggest that you are a racist.

Isn't it funny how that works ?

I would suggest that the above is a racist remark. So yes there are facts to back up the claim. The Op may be many things but on this evidence it is you that might like to seek the assistance of the psychiatric profession.

[plaster]

How about calling Miss Universe names like Miss Housekeeping ?

If you make racist remarks like that people are within their rights to suggest that you are a racist.

Isn't it funny how that works ?

I would suggest that the above is a racist remark. So yes there are facts to back up the claim. The Op may be many things but on this evidence it is you that might like to seek the assistance of the psychiatric profession.

Hillary said miss housekeeping in debate with absolutely nothing to back claim... therefore fact. Got it.

Misshousekeeping was interviewed by Megyn Kelly and she couldn't remember her name she was that stupid.

Misshousekeeping is accused of being the driver in an attempted murder case.

Misshousekeeping was involved with major drug boss cartels.

Hmmmm.... you are right. Trump is a monster because Hitlary said so! Hei Hitlary!!

[rowan]

Writer doesn't know the difference between affect and effect, so his opinion doesn't matter.

affect

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noun
4.
Psychology. feeling or emotion.
5.
Psychiatry. an expressed or observed emotional response:
Restricted, flat, or blunted affect may be a symptom of mental illness, especially schizophrenia.
6.
Obsolete. affection; passion; sensation; inclination; inward disposition or feeling.

[nico-t]

How about calling Miss Universe names like Miss Housekeeping ?

If you make racist remarks like that people are within their rights to suggest that you are a racist.

Isn't it funny how that works ?

I would suggest that the above is a racist remark. So yes there are facts to back up the claim. The Op may be many things but on this evidence it is you that might like to seek the assistance of the psychiatric profession.

what I would like to know is what country this Miss Universe race is from so i can go on vacation there

Jesus...
I think you mixed up 'racist' with 'misogynistic sexist pig', i know it can get confusing to memorize the meaning of all the social justice stop words... Jokes are a no no in the SJW holy book, especially about women and non-white people. I havent heard that Trump said that, but if he did you know what it is? It's called a joke. Ooooh! Many jokes are offensive, that's what makes alot of them fun to do, and hear!

Maybe you're more of a Tim Kaine guy. Who is Hillary's "right hand person" instead of saying right hand man, otherwise women would be offended - THIS ACTUALLY HAPPENED

[Joshua G]

How about calling Miss Universe names like Miss Housekeeping ?

how about we call you names, like your a sniveling liberal moron that cant take a microagression.

[NewNick]

how about we call you names, like your a sniveling liberal moron that cant take a microagression.

Ah you hurt my feelings now.

But go ahead vote a lying, bigoted, tax dodging racist into power.

I can see that will end well.

[nico-t]

Ah you hurt my feelings now.

But go ahead vote a lying, bigoted, tax dodging racist into power.

I can see that will end well.

again, please post proof of racism. And FYI: a Miss Universe joke is not racism, genius

Please, any real proof? Just post it.

If you don't have any proof, which I know you don't since you are just repeating mainstream media propaganda like a good little sleeping slave, then why are you still calling someone who did more for minorities than you will ever do in 100 lives a racist? It's comes across quite unintelligent.

[NewNick]

again, please post proof of racism. And FYI: a Miss Universe joke is not racism, genius

Please, any real proof? Just post it.

If you don't have any proof, which I know you don't since you are just repeating mainstream media propaganda like a good little sleeping slave, then why are you still calling someone who did more for minorities than you will ever do in 100 lives a racist? It's comes across quite unintelligent.

Making jokes based on racial stereotypes is not racist ?

Ok whatever.

[Joshua G]

Making jokes based on racial stereotypes is not racist ?

Ok whatever.

no, its not.

thats what changed between the 80s & today...a race joke did not brand you a racist. you actually had to hate a race, or commit a hate crime, in order to be a racist. dont ask me, ask seinfeld, or chris rock, who shut down their shows at colleges, because of hyper-sensitive losers like you.

its because of asshats like you in the media, that PC incorrect art, like married with children, cannot be created anymore.

[nico-t]

Making jokes based on racial stereotypes is not racist ?

Ok whatever.

Miss Universe isn't a race.

And about making racial jokes, yes, that is not racist. I do it too to my friends who are of another race. We make jokes about everything, whatever comes to mind. That's how jokes work.

Anyway, Trump didn't even make a racial joke. He literally didn't say anything bad, or joked, about a specific race.

So even if he did, only complete retards would label that racist. But he didn't, so calling him a racist now is even more retarded and based on hot air.

[Speigelau]

I'm really glad the famous Mr Prince makes all these threads telling us what to think.

[Sly]

LOL. The Atlantic, never in 1 million years, would have endorsed Trump. It's readers are not waving Trump signs either. This is not shocking, nor is it a blow.

The real blow is how everyone in the world seems to hate Trump, and Hillary STILL can't stomp him. This all speaks far more about Hillary and the "establishment" than it does Trump.

Hillary can win by 20 points in November and Trump still won. In Silicon Valley they call guys like Trump "disruptors" and treat them like saviors in every industry but politics.

This is not an endorsement of Trump as I will not be voting, but a dose of reality that everyone not wearing a team jersey clearly sees.

[Relic]

I'm really glad the famous Mr Prince makes all these threads telling us what to think.

[Rochard]

Trump has made hundreds of millions of dollars, and chosen never to do any good with any of his money. Even his charity is pretty much an out right scam, donating money to people running for public office and renting out his own resorts at $100k a pop.

Until the moment he ran for office, he never did a single thing for veterans. Not one thing. It's very sad.

Why I am donating a portion of my income to charity when Trump refuses to pay taxes?

[seeandsee]

pure evidence offered?

[Joshua G]

In Silicon Valley they call guys like Trump "disruptors" and treat them like saviors in every industry but politics.

the libs understand he is a disrupter - to the PC regime they create & enforce on the world. liberal PC, as sold via the media, is like the matrix. a web of PC race lies sold through sane looking folk like lester holt, designed to confine people to victim boxes.

trump is the neo of PC, the one that cannot be hurt by the agents, & who can free the people from the liberal slave trade of poverty & mis-education.

& the liberal PC agent smith drones are on a crusade to destroy him. with mark prince/rochard crockett drones that blindly post their PC bullshit on GFY.

[Dvae]

How is voting for a liar, a racist, etc, sending anything but a negative message?

Why not ask the Hillary supporters?

[Rochard]

Why not ask the Hillary supporters?

This is the problem right here.

Yeah, sure, Hillary lied. She was asked an impossible question. I'm sorry, but the only way she could properly answer that question is have a large team of attorneys look over tens of thousands of emails over a six month period. (It took the FBI hundreds of agents and an entire year go over everything.) In her mind, at the time, she most likely did not believe she sent any emails. That surely doesn't make her a liar.

This is nothing more than a political witch hunt. If this is so important to national security, why haven't we investigated former Secretaries of State?

[Speigelau]

This is the problem right here.

Yeah, sure, Hillary lied. She was asked an impossible question. I'm sorry, but the only way she could properly answer that question is have a large team of attorneys look over tens of thousands of emails over a six month period. (It took the FBI hundreds of agents and an entire year go over everything.) In her mind, at the time, she most likely did not believe she sent any emails. That surely doesn't make her a liar.

This is nothing more than a political witch hunt. If this is so important to national security, why haven't we investigated former Secretaries of State?

Wallace, July 31: I want to ask about one aspect, what you told the American people.

Video clip, Clinton: I did not email any classified material to anyone on my email. There is no classified materials.

I am confident that I never sent nor received any information that was classified at the time.

I had not sent classified material nor received anything marked classified.

(End video clip)

Wallace: After a long investigation, FBI Director James Comey said none of those things that you told the American public were true.

Clinton: Chris, that?s not what I heard Director Comey say, and I thank you for giving me the opportunity, in my view, clarify. Director Comey said my answers were truthful, and what I?ve said is consistent with what I have told the American people, that there were decisions discussed and made to classify retroactively certain of the emails. I was communicating with over 300 people in my emailing. They certainly did not believe and had no reason to believe that what they were sending was classified. Now, in retrospect, different agencies come in and say, well, it should have been, but that?s not what was happening in real time.

Wallace: But in a congressional hearing on July 7th, Director Comey directly contradicted what you had told the public.

Video clip, Rep. Trey Gowdy, R-S.C.: Secretary Clinton said there was nothing marked classified on her emails either sent or received. Was that true?

James Comey, FBI director: That?s not true. ?

Gowdy: Secretary Clinton said, ?I did not email any classified material to anyone on my email. There is no classified material.? Was that true?

Comey: There was classified material emailed.

(End video clip)

[SuckOnThis]

"I have a problem with liars so I'm going to support the biggest liar on the planet" - every Trump supporter


Trump?s own bankruptcy lawyers say he lies so much they could only meet with him in pairs

Donald Trump?s own bankruptcy lawyers testified that they had a policy of not meeting with the real estate mogul alone because he had a ?problem? of constantly lying.

[poncabare]

Baffling why you care about another country's politics.

[onwebcam]

This is the problem right here.

Yeah, sure, Hillary lied. She was asked an impossible question. I'm sorry, but the only way she could properly answer that question is have a large team of attorneys look over tens of thousands of emails over a six month period. (It took the FBI hundreds of agents and an entire year go over everything.) In her mind, at the time, she most likely did not believe she sent any emails. That surely doesn't make her a liar.

This is nothing more than a political witch hunt. If this is so important to national security, why haven't we investigated former Secretaries of State?

They didn't use it for classified info?

[noshit]

Funny Thread... OP Doesn't know Anything About Getting Ass Handed

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[mineistaken]

Damn, media endorsing Hilary, breaking news!

[Speigelau]

This is the problem right here.

Yeah, sure, Hillary lied. She was asked an impossible question. I'm sorry, but the only way she could properly answer that question is have a large team of attorneys look over tens of thousands of emails over a six month period. (It took the FBI hundreds of agents and an entire year go over everything.) In her mind, at the time, she most likely did not believe she sent any emails. That surely doesn't make her a liar.

This is nothing more than a political witch hunt. If this is so important to national security, why haven't we investigated former Secretaries of State?

[Jel]

LOL. The Atlantic, never in 1 million years, would have endorsed Trump. It's readers are not waving Trump signs either. This is not shocking, nor is it a blow.

The real blow is how everyone in the world seems to hate Trump, and Hillary STILL can't stomp him. This all speaks far more about Hillary and the "establishment" than it does Trump.

Hillary can win by 20 points in November and Trump still won. In Silicon Valley they call guys like Trump "disruptors" and treat them like saviors in every industry but politics.

This is not an endorsement of Trump as I will not be voting, but a dose of reality that everyone not wearing a team jersey clearly sees.

[NewNick]

In Silicon Valley they call guys like Trump "disruptors" and treat them like saviors in every industry but politics.

This is not an endorsement of Trump as I will not be voting, but a dose of reality that everyone not wearing a team jersey clearly sees.

Nonsense.

A disruptive business model or technology provides solutions in existing markets or creates new markets which render existing products services and businesses obsolete.

Trump does none of that.

He sits on the side calling names and pandering to the insecurities and fears of your average Joe.

And thats the problem with the average Joe. He is fucking average. Life has not dropped Joe into a fabulous Job, with a beautiful wife, Joe's life story is not sung by David Byrne. Of course Joe wonders where it all went wrong and Trump gives him a focus for his dissatisfaction.

Trump is doing the easy but - pointing out that life for Mr average is not that fucking great. Well no shit.

Life is nasty brutish and short. Trump does not get any prizes for working that out. Unfortunately neither does he offer any solutions. Its easy enough to put the blame on minorities and foreigners. Easy enough to castigate the political elite for failing poor old Joe.

But what the fuck are you going to do about it Trump ?

And please please please dont give me that "bring the jobs back bullshit".

US consumers like their German and Japanese cars. They like their electronics built in Asia, and they certainly like it all at the right price.

US industrial output is 4 times the size it was in 1960, yet it employs 1 third of the people it did at that time. That is why Joe does not have any job security. The Jobs have not gone to Mexico or China, the jobs have been lost to technology - and is Trump going to squeeze the Genie back into the bottle ?

[Joshua G]

Nonsense.

A disruptive business model or technology provides solutions in existing markets or creates new markets which render existing products services and businesses obsolete.

Trump does none of that.

He sits on the side calling names and pandering to the insecurities and fears of your average Joe.

And thats the problem with the average Joe. He is fucking average. Life has not dropped Joe into a fabulous Job, with a beautiful wife, Joe's life story is not sung by David Byrne. Of course Joe wonders where it all went wrong and Trump gives him a focus for his dissatisfaction.

Trump is doing the easy but - pointing out that life for Mr average is not that fucking great. Well no shit.

Life is nasty brutish and short. Trump does not get any prizes for working that out. Unfortunately neither does he offer any solutions. Its easy enough to put the blame on minorities and foreigners. Easy enough to castigate the political elite for failing poor old Joe.

But what the fuck are you going to do about it Trump ?

And please please please dont give me that "bring the jobs back bullshit".

US consumers like their German and Japanese cars. They like their electronics built in Asia, and they certainly like it all at the right price.

US industrial output is 4 times the size it was in 1960, yet it employs 1 third of the people it did at that time. That is why Joe does not have any job security. The Jobs have not gone to Mexico or China, the jobs have been lost to technology - and is Trump going to squeeze the Genie back into the bottle ?

you could save yourself a lot of time & energy, just writing "im a dumbass" rather than writing 10 paragraphs that convey the same exact message.

[NewNick]

you could save yourself a lot of time & energy, just writing "im a dumbass" rather than writing 10 paragraphs that convey the same exact message.

So after careful consideration of the points made that's your well reasoned argument to refute my position ?

Smart fella.

[MaDalton]

you could save yourself a lot of time & energy, just writing "im a dumbass" rather than writing 10 paragraphs that convey the same exact message.

you are really the most stupid person to ever hit this board - and that says a lot.

[NewNick]

you are really the most stupid person to ever hit this board - and that says a lot.

Sorry I have to disagree.

WeHatePorn is the stupidest.

Josh is a tryer I will give him that, but he needs to up his game to get to TinFoil nutjob status.

[woj]

Nonsense.

A disruptive business model or technology provides solutions in existing markets or creates new markets which render existing products services and businesses obsolete.

Trump does none of that.

He sits on the side calling names and pandering to the insecurities and fears of your average Joe.

And thats the problem with the average Joe. He is fucking average. Life has not dropped Joe into a fabulous Job, with a beautiful wife, Joe's life story is not sung by David Byrne. Of course Joe wonders where it all went wrong and Trump gives him a focus for his dissatisfaction.

Trump is doing the easy but - pointing out that life for Mr average is not that fucking great. Well no shit.

Life is nasty brutish and short. Trump does not get any prizes for working that out. Unfortunately neither does he offer any solutions. Its easy enough to put the blame on minorities and foreigners. Easy enough to castigate the political elite for failing poor old Joe.

But what the fuck are you going to do about it Trump ?

And please please please dont give me that "bring the jobs back bullshit".

US consumers like their German and Japanese cars. They like their electronics built in Asia, and they certainly like it all at the right price.

US industrial output is 4 times the size it was in 1960, yet it employs 1 third of the people it did at that time. That is why Joe does not have any job security. The Jobs have not gone to Mexico or China, the jobs have been lost to technology - and is Trump going to squeeze the Genie back into the bottle ?

a lot of truth to what you said, but Trump at least gives average Joe hope and possibility of change for the better, while Hillary does not...

you rip on Trump, but what is Hillary proposing to make average Joe's life better? it's the usual left wing bullshit: raise minimum wage, raise taxes, etc...

average Joe could give 2 shits about that, he wants to go back to screwing on bolts for $30+/hr at GM, not get a $8/hr to $10/hr raise or to make the "rich pay their fair share"... "making rich pay their fair share" sounds good and all, but doesn't bring back the middle class life style average Joe used to enjoy....

[2MuchMark]

So i should vote for a lying, pandering, flip flopping con artist that has has been in politics for 35 years. I have to vote for one of these two running cause if do't then i aint no better the 57.5% of eligible voter's that didn't vote in 2012 that constantly bitch about the other party and what they did bla bla

The message is to the establishment left and right fuck you we are not falling for your bullshit no more. These fuckers work for us not the other way around. Seriously its 2016 and these are the best 2 candidates we could come up with to run for president? I don't give a fuck who bill clinton fucked or who trump called a fat slob. I compared both of there policy's and i agree with Trumps over Clintons. Now will either of there policy's be put in place as history shows once they get in those policy's goes right out the window. But if you do not vote you do not have a right to bitch

Hi TT,

I'm not bitching. But there is all kinds of evidence out there that Trump is unfit to be Potus. If you had trouble breathing one day, would you go to a plumber to fix your heart?

Writer doesn't know the difference between affect and effect, so his opinion doesn't matter.

I think he used "affect" in the right way. Affect | Define Affect at Dictionary.com

more evidence that the OP only hears what he wants to hear.

The same can be said about you. So let's assume both are true, and let these truths cancel each other out and removed from future arguments, points and discussions.

i think its safe to say the OPs source is severely biased,

You should know that this is only the 3rd time they have come out against a presidential candidate in their 159 year history. "Bias", they are not.

You really should quit portraying Hillary Goldwater Girl

I don't. Clinton has a shitload of baggage with her too, but at least she's not as bad as Trump. I was really hoping that Sanders would win. I've known all along that Clinton will win, and I still think she will, but the race is uncomfortably close.

I didn't know what the C stands for Clinton in a negative way.

Nothing to say to that.

And here we go again with the racist remark. Do you have any facts to back up that statement? Aside from the many minorities he created jobs for? What a racist!

If you seriously believe Trump is a racist you're completely insane.

And please don't even mention 'liar'. His opponent is Hillary Clinton. Enough said.

And here we go again with the racist remark. Do you have any facts to back up that statement?

Here Are 13 Examples Of Donald Trump Being Racist | Huffington Post

And please don't even mention 'liar'.

Donald Trump lies. All the time. - Vox

The Truth About Donald Trump's Lie - Ford, Outsourcing, and the Auto Industry

etc, but you knew these already.

[woj]

I'm not bitching. But there is all kinds of evidence out there that Trump is unfit to be Potus. If you had trouble breathing one day, would you go to a plumber to fix your heart?

if you wanted to fix the economy, who do you think would be better... businessman with a degree in economics or a lawyer?

[2MuchMark]

I'm really glad the famous Mr Prince makes all these threads telling us what to think.

I'm not trying to tell you or anyone else what to think. I'm sharing information and opinions about one of the most important events in US history to generate a discussion about that affects us all.

LOL. The Atlantic, never in 1 million years, would have endorsed Trump. It's readers are not waving Trump signs either. This is not shocking, nor is it a blow.

No newspapers have endorsed Trump.

the libs understand he is a disrupter -

There's nothing wrong with being a disrupter. There's everything wrong with what Trump says and does.

& the liberal PC agent smith drones are on a crusade to destroy him. with mark prince/rochard crockett drones that blindly post their PC bullshit on GFY.

Not blindly. We see and hear him on TV and Youtube, and read endless amounts prove our point, and post links to everything for you to see.

Baffling why you care about another country's politics.

Because the USA is our next-door neighbour. Because American people are cool. Because you and I are smart people in a cool industry. Because Canadian and Americans share alot when it comes to language, culture and beliefs. Because what happens in American affects us. Because we care.

[2MuchMark]

if you wanted to fix the economy, who do you think would be better... businessman with a degree in economics or a lawyer?

Trumps answer to this : he would "Print Money"

Donald Trump: U.S. will never default 'because you print the money' - CNNPolitics.com

there's also this:

Trump Clarifies His Debt Default Comments, Then Suggests Printing Money : NPR

A closer look at Donald Trump's comments about refinancing U.S. debt | PolitiFact

He also threatened to default on the national debt:

Great, Donald Trump Threatened To Default On The National Debt | Huffington Post

“I would borrow, knowing that if the economy crashed, you could make a deal,” Trump told CNBC. If the U.S. borrowed too much and invested its fresh cash in unproductive products, Trump would tell creditors to accept less than what he’d initially agreed to.

What an incredible fucking dangerous scary idiot Donald Trump is.

This is why the whole world is paying attention. And things like this make him incredibly unfit to be President.

[woj]

Trumps answer to this : he would "Print Money"

Donald Trump: U.S. will never default 'because you print the money' - CNNPolitics.com

there's also this:

Trump Clarifies His Debt Default Comments, Then Suggests Printing Money : NPR

A closer look at Donald Trump's comments about refinancing U.S. debt | PolitiFact

He also threatened to default on the national debt:

Great, Donald Trump Threatened To Default On The National Debt | Huffington Post



What an incredible fucking dangerous scary idiot Donald Trump is.

This is why the whole world is paying attention. And things like this make him incredibly unfit to be President.

it may all sound nuts, but that's the reality of the situation, one day something will have to be done... Obama increased the debt from $10T to $20T, there is zero reason to believe Hillary wouldn't continue that trend...

so while everyone else ignores the issue, he calls it like it is, if nothing gets done, we will eventually reach tipping point on the verge of default and something will have to be done, either print more $$, renegotiate the debt, etc...

it's not like your side has any decent solutions, your solution is basically: we'll spend like a drunk sailor, and we'll let the next guy worry about it... just like we've seen done by Obama... if he wouldn't have doubled the debt, this whole national debt debate wouldn't even be an issue at all now...

so Obama fucks things up, Trump proposes unpleasant solutions, he is labeled nuts or "scary idiot"..