DNS info at Registrar is Meaningless?

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  • Jigster715
    So Fucking Banned
    • Jul 2015
    • 1459

    #1

    Tech DNS info at Registrar is Meaningless?

    Am being told by our registrar that DNS, including MX and IP addresses are meaningless unless we are using their name servers.

    We are moving hosts and discovered a number of domains were "parked" and some other domains had e-mail forwarding added to the MX records. We did neither.

    Now, I know DNS at registrar is meaningless more or less, if you are using an outside CDN.

    But is what they are saying make sense?

    The new host, MojoHost is saying we must point DNS at registrar to them or use the CDN system to do it. Not all the sites, especially the ones noted above were live or with a CDN.

    Any thoughts?
  • rowan
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Mar 2002
    • 17393

    #2
    If you have a competent host or you're using a CDN there should be no need for the registrar to host your DNS records.

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    • Jigster715
      So Fucking Banned
      • Jul 2015
      • 1459

      #3
      Originally posted by rowan
      If you have a competent host or you're using a CDN there should be no need for the registrar to host your DNS records.
      So if you are not using a CDN how do you move the DNS from one host to another? It can not be on the back of the host otherwise shady hosts would be moving people's domains all over the internet. lol. You get my point though right? I haven't moved hosts in years so things may have changed...??

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      • rowan
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Mar 2002
        • 17393

        #4
        You configure which name servers you want the world to query via your registrar (DNS delegation), but you don't actually need them to HOST the name server. If you have a managed server (I think mojo is all managed?) it would be better to let them handle DNS.

        1. Mojo sets up name servers for your domain(s)
        2. You log in to your registrar and change the name server entries to point at Mojo's name servers

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        • Jigster715
          So Fucking Banned
          • Jul 2015
          • 1459

          #5
          Originally posted by rowan
          You configure which name servers you want the world to query via your registrar (DNS delegation), but you don't actually need them to HOST the name server. If you have a managed server (I think mojo is all managed?) it would be better to let them handle DNS.

          1. Mojo sets up name servers for your domain(s)
          2. You log in to your registrar and change the name server entries to point at Mojo's name servers
          Right. I get all that. I guess my question was not properly formatted. I understand all that.

          I am just new to registrars adding mail forwarding MX records and opting to put your domains to parking pages, in DNS, with sites not live and with live sites.

          I never meant the reg hosted anything. Thats not the point.

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          • sirkonstantine
            Confirmed User
            • Jan 2012
            • 281

            #6
            Let Eli explain it.

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            • blackmonsters
              Making PHP work
              • Nov 2002
              • 21003

              #7
              Originally posted by Jigster715
              Am being told by our registrar that DNS, including MX and IP addresses are meaningless unless we are using their name servers.

              We are moving hosts and discovered a number of domains were "parked" and some other domains had e-mail forwarding added to the MX records. We did neither.

              Now, I know DNS at registrar is meaningless more or less, if you are using an outside CDN.

              But is what they are saying make sense?

              The new host, MojoHost is saying we must point DNS at registrar to them or use the CDN system to do it. Not all the sites, especially the ones noted above were live or with a CDN.

              Any thoughts?

              Log into your register, click on a domain and edit the DNS by adding

              NS1.MOJOHOST.COM
              NS2.MOJOHOST.COM

              Do that for each domain.
              That is all you have to do.


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              • testpie
                Mostly retired
                • Apr 2006
                • 3231

                #8
                Originally posted by Jigster715
                Am being told by our registrar that DNS, including MX and IP addresses are meaningless unless we are using their name servers.

                We are moving hosts and discovered a number of domains were "parked" and some other domains had e-mail forwarding added to the MX records. We did neither.

                Now, I know DNS at registrar is meaningless more or less, if you are using an outside CDN.

                But is what they are saying make sense?

                The new host, MojoHost is saying we must point DNS at registrar to them or use the CDN system to do it. Not all the sites, especially the ones noted above were live or with a CDN.

                Any thoughts?
                Sounds like your Registrar are telling porkies in the hopes of flogging you a "Premium DNS product" of some sort. If your Webhost offers CDN/DNS Services, as someone else said here, all you need to do on your DNS Registrar is to go into the Control Panel and set the Mojohost Nameservers under your domains.

                Your Registrar will then push this to the "Root DNS Servers", and you're effectively no longer using your Registrar for any DNS Services.

                Affiliates: DogFart ~ Domain parking: NameDrive ~ Traffic broker: Traffic Holder

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                • rowan
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Mar 2002
                  • 17393

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Jigster715
                  I am just new to registrars adding mail forwarding MX records and opting to put your domains to parking pages, in DNS, with sites not live and with live sites.
                  If you had already configured the domain to point to your own name servers, then they changed that config to point to theirs, that's a different matter. Did the domains go past their expiry date?

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                  • Jigster715
                    So Fucking Banned
                    • Jul 2015
                    • 1459

                    #10
                    Originally posted by rowan
                    If you had already configured the domain to point to your own name servers, then they changed that config to point to theirs, that's a different matter. Did the domains go past their expiry date?
                    They did that on a couple of them. They still refuse to accept that their machines or an employee set up e-mail forwarding on some accounts. I've never seen a reg do that.

                    The rest we have just changed to mojo and will leave it at that.
                    To everyone else, thanks for the great input. I will watch Eli later today.

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