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Does anyone know how the upside down star came to be the sign of the devil? I do. :)

That may be some Orthodox Jews interpretation but not all. A lot of Orthodox Jews are IMHO fucked up when it comes to their rules and interpretations, but not all Orthodox are that way. The Orthodox rabbis I know certainly have a different interpration about f'ing your wife through a slit cut in a sheet, although I'm sure there are those that exist. Orthodoxy is generally fucked up no matter where you go. Blinded by dogma.

they don't even use paper bags?

I don't think so, but I'll make sure to ask next time.

I think the raelians have it over the jews. A jewish girl couldn't use a vibrator on the sabbath.. although Dr. Ruth is one mean fucking machine :)

hmmm....that's an interesting question.....can you use a dildo on the Sabbath but not a vibrator? I'll ask.

btw...did you know that Nina Hartley used to do sex-therapy classes at a shul down in L.A.? Unfortuately, that was after I had left L.A.

just mock horror mate :) I was kidding about the bag.

technically I would think that would be the case lol. But when you get that orthodox, I think it becomes more of a statement of the type of judaism you follow, and overtly sexual things like vibrators probably wouldn't even be a concern for someone not willing to drive a car on a certain day because of their religion.

To be fair, and I hate defending the Orthodox, not all of them are so dogmatic. The purpose for not working on the Sabbath has nothing to do with deprieving oneself of something. It's original intent is that of liberation. To liberate oneself from work. To liberate oneself from worry. To enable you to relax and reflect, spend time with family and friends (and of course pray). Before Judaism, most people were forced to work 7 days a week....no break whatsoever. The Sabbath, which celebrates liberation, consititutes liberation on many levels.

my christian employee ?? Put the crack pipe down Mate,
if you're refering to marty he's doesn't even believe in God
as far as i know !

acording to Fletch if you believe in God you can't work as
a adult webmasters...well isn't it fucking lucky for me this
guy doesn't make the rules :glugglug

fyi, i have zero, nada, zilch problems with gay people it's
their own choice to do what they want as it is mine to believe
there's a god !

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Wiccan here. Meow.

this thread is the devil!

AMEN!! :thumbsup

Ahh, I was wondering when someone would post Mr. Crowley...hehe

It's funny because much of today's Wicca/Paganism and even Satanism are based on one thing that Aleistar wrote in 'The Book of the Law':

'Do what thou will shall be the whole of the law.'

LaVey understood it to mean 'Do what you want.' and he based alot of the roots of the Church of Satan around that.

Wiccans on the other hand, took it, and added one simple phrase:

'An harm none, do what thou will.'

This softens the sentence, and created somewhat of a buffer for Wiccans.

But if you read more of Crowley's essays and books, you will find that he is very clear in what that means. To reiterate:

"You have no right to do anything but what your WILL is meant to do.'

Most also negate to mention the sentence that follows;

'Do what thou will shall be the whole of the law. Love under Will.'

So 'will' is first, but will is guided by love....therefore, there was really no need for Wiccans to add 'an harm none' because it was already inherent in the text.

Okay, so I'm blabbering...lol....don't ask me why I know stuff like this....I'm an armchair occultist...hehe

I'm a Porn-again christian, does that count?

I always thought the 1st birth was enough for me.

What if you're beyond redemption like the man they call Raven, Will it still help us soothe our soul?