Your answer is proof of your idiocy.

WE are not at war and don't want to, and we do not proclaim that we liberate people.

The US does that. so when are you goiing to liberate the population of Congo. After all, you are the one that brings this " liberation shit" in your justification of war....

If you have no intelligent answer, abstain.

What makes the UN THE de facto organization that decides the legitimacy or illegitimacy of military action?

If it is, why have so many countries in the UN been involved in military conflicts without it's approval including the US, UK, USSR, and China?

Which conflicts of the literally hundreds since the founding of the UN were legitimate? If there are hundreds of conflicts that occured without UN approval and only a handful that occured with it, doesn't that make the necessity of the UN's approval a sort of silly idea?

Note: there is NO UN resolution AGAINST the current conflict in Iraq. That would make it more illegitimate but it is clearly a matter of degree. The UN attempted to pass a resolution againt the USSR's invasion of Hungary and Russia just vetoed it. They exercised their veto power "legally" and I suppose that made it legitimate. Correct?

There is not much history AT ALL of countries getting PERMISSION from the UN to go to war. Where does this idea of needing international approval attached to a concept of "legitimacy" come from?

Your country flew combat missions in Kosovo.

A war of "liberation" that did not have UN approval.

You are the idiot here. Good ole' USA probably killed far more people than any other country.

And wake the fuck up, there are worse dictators than Saddam. Why isn't Bush "freeing" those people?

Its funny how the media here says the iraqi people are getting more and more hateful towards the usa, and us media says the opposite.

conclusion: none of us fucking know.

While you're obviously researching, just check out what the US had to say about that

Good guess. Some are getting more hateful, some less.

It's well known that Iraq is winning the propoganda war, he sets his own citizens up to be killed.

He has recently created small military command stations in schools, hospitals and other public places then fires upon our troops trying to force us to return fire, this would of course cause civillian casualties which is what Saddam is hoping for.

These innocent deaths ARE horrible and tragic, but the blood's on Saddams hands, he put them in harms way intentionally.

Wake the fuck up.
No matter how fucked up your dictator is, if another country came over to bomb the shit out of your beautifull capital city you would be pissed!

1. That was off the top off my head. Funny you'd assume that someone would have to research a very important conflict of the 20th century. See Warsaw Pact for why.

2. I don't care whether the US thinks something is legitimate or not. I care about whether I do.

3. No shit. People that are opposed to conflict but are unwilling to pay the price or are incapable of stopping it cry to international bodies and claim the acts are illegitimate. The US did it in 1956. You are doing it now.

No reason to wake up. Many interviews, including one on Saudi Arabian based "Arab News" show that there are many people in Iraq that WANT the US to take out Saddam and many that don't.

Why should anyone assume that 25 million people are going to agree on ANYTHING?

another thing to consider when you're bashing the "liberation" argument.

do these other countries in need of liberation directly threaten, or pose any sort of threat to the US? do their leaders openly voice threats to us? not that i've heard, but i could be wrong. are they attempting to obtain biological, chemical and possibly nuclear weapons, with their highly anti-US sentiment? doesn't appear so.

the US DOES have to protect its interests, as much as people hate that. what do you do? most people individually take priority stock in their interests, and then the interests of others. if you never consider your own interests, you generally don't fair too well.

think about that in your online biz. do you give away your traffic, or your rebills, just because it benefits someone else more than you? if that's the case, hit me up i could use some liberation myself.

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son, I guess you need it spelled out for you.
We, the United States of America, shall do as we please.
You, impotent country to our north, can rant on chat boards all you want. It still doesn't change the fact that We, the United States of America, shall do as we please.

its gotta suck to be a directfiesta :1orglaugh

saddams regime poses more of a threat to usa than hitler ever did.

Aww, come on. That's bullshit. They made that up. None of that's real. Just like the hollocaust.

Aww man. That was terrible. That was really just a joke. I'm sorry.

Its this fucked up drunken hick ignorant attitude that caused 9/11.
I bet every time you come home to your trailer you kick the dog and beat your fat ass wife. :thefinger

Nope, I'm not. I never belived in the UN. I'm appealing to common sense

dude, don't assume the rest of us live your life. :1orglaugh
No one here will ever want to lead your life if they could lead mine:thumbsup

but then, that's all caused by how you think isn't it?