15 years on: do you think 9/11 was an inside job or not? vote:
Was 9/11 an inside job?
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Was 9/11 an inside job?
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We will never really know but i bet the US GOV knew a lot more then they are letting on.Comment
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The part that raises the most questions for me, is the way the buildings fell like demolition and even the buildings that weren't hit by planes, the sounds of explosions, things like that. I think its fair to say that the US government is capable of doing something like that, and look what's happened since, they've gotten more power and control because of it. Either way its changed our world.Comment
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Sure...a bumbling Republican administration who didn't have the foresight to plant WMDs in the ground to support their lies also hired 1000 ninjas to run around the largest New York city buildings with tons of drilling equipment and miles of wiring -- all while being completely unseen. Maybe they could get the job done while everyone was on their lunch break or discussing TV shows around the water cooler.The part that raises the most questions for me, is the way the buildings fell like demolition and even the buildings that weren't hit by planes, the sounds of explosions, things like that. I think its fair to say that the US government is capable of doing something like that, and look what's happened since, they've gotten more power and control because of it. Either way its changed our world.
Look into what's required and what's been done in the realm of controlled demolition, and you'll realize what you said is nonsense.
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Sure...a bumbling Republican administration who didn't have the foresight to plant WMDs in the ground to support their lies also hired 1000 ninjas to run around the largest New York city buildings with tons of drilling equipment and miles of wiring -- all while being completely unseen. Maybe they could get the job done while everyone was on their lunch break or discussing TV shows around the water cooler.
Look into what's required and what's been done in the realm of controlled demolition, and you'll realize what you said is nonsense.
You don't think its suspicious that surrounding building fell even though they weren't hit?Comment
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building 7 falling was a bit fishy wasnt it?
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They were already profiting from their war, job done
If you've planned this years in advance time is no problemalso hired 1000 ninjas to run around the largest New York city buildings with tons of drilling equipment and miles of wiring -- all while being completely unseen. Maybe they could get the job done while everyone was on their lunch break or discussing TV shows around the water cooler.
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It's completely possible and it took prob a year. There were reports of "Maintainence Men" working late for ages and accessing odd parts of the building. The thermite dust on the surrounding apartments is the smoking gun. If it wasn't our government it was another, and after reading documents like operation north woods, our gov is more than capable of doing this.Sure...a bumbling Republican administration who didn't have the foresight to plant WMDs in the ground to support their lies also hired 1000 ninjas to run around the largest New York city buildings with tons of drilling equipment and miles of wiring -- all while being completely unseen. Maybe they could get the job done while everyone was on their lunch break or discussing TV shows around the water cooler.
Look into what's required and what's been done in the realm of controlled demolition, and you'll realize what you said is nonsense.
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interesting shot of the second impact, taken from a news helicopter, depicts a video composite of a Boeing 767 accidentally appearing from behind a Layer Mask.

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Waiting for decorated war veteran, renowned webmaster (computer hacker?), founder of multi-million dollar fundraisers and political expert (possible cia asset) 'Rochard', to take a break from updating his world class affiliate blog and weigh in on this before I comment.Comment
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Waiting for decorated war veteran, renowned webmaster (computer hacker?), founder of multi-million dollar fundraisers and political expert (possible cia asset) 'Rochard', to take a break from updating his world class affiliate blog and weigh in on this before I comment.


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The contemporary term false flag describes covert operations that are designed to deceive in such a way that the operations appear as though they are being carried out by entities, groups, or nations other than those who actually planned and executed them.
Historically, the term "false flag" has its origins in naval warfare where the use of a flag other than the belligerent's true battle flag before (but not while) engaging the enemy has long been accepted as a permissible ruse de guerre; by contrast, flying a false flag while engaging the enemy constitutes perfidy.
Operations carried out during peace-time by civilian organizations, as well as covert government agencies, can (by extension) also be called false flag operations if they seek to hide the real organization behind an operation.GFY King?Comment
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if it was...it will come out eventually. the huge amount of people it would of taken to pull this off can't all go quietly.you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..Comment
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Interesting video. That guy is talking about jet fuel, how did the jet fuel get into that building? I am talking about the building 7 that wasn't hit a plane. The twin towers got hit by huge jets travelling fast, just using simple logic I can agree that if you crash a jet into a building it can fall. Also he shows a half inch steel. I'm sure that the building has much thicker steel than that.Comment
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This is a good read Remember Building 7 | Stand with the 9-11 families demanding a NEW Building 7 investigation - 7 Facts about Building 7Interesting video. That guy is talking about jet fuel, how did the jet fuel get into that building? I am talking about the building 7 that wasn't hit a plane. The twin towers got hit by huge jets travelling fast, just using simple logic I can agree that if you crash a jet into a building it can fall. Also he shows a half inch steel. I'm sure that the building has much thicker steel than that.
I thought it was much smallerComment
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But then this shows it on fireInteresting video. That guy is talking about jet fuel, how did the jet fuel get into that building? I am talking about the building 7 that wasn't hit a plane. The twin towers got hit by huge jets travelling fast, just using simple logic I can agree that if you crash a jet into a building it can fall. Also he shows a half inch steel. I'm sure that the building has much thicker steel than that.
Footage that kills the conspiracy theories: Rare footage shows WTC 7 consumed by fire | Daily Mail OnlineComment
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You're only displaying your complete ignorance of what happens when a building is rigged for controlled demolition. Let's entertain the notion/rumor that there were "maintenance men" working during non-working hours.It's completely possible and it took prob a year. There were reports of "Maintainence Men" working late for ages and accessing odd parts of the building. The thermite dust on the surrounding apartments is the smoking gun. If it wasn't our government it was another, and after reading documents like operation north woods, our gov is more than capable of doing this.
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For one thing, the buildings were probably never truly empty in any sense of the word. There's cleaning people, security guards, etc who are there long after everyone goes home from work -- and probably lots of workaholics who stay late. No one talked to any of these mysterious maintenance men or filmed the massive amount of equipment needed -- which would need to be taken away from the site every day before everyone gets to their offices at 9am?
Do you realize the largest recorded controlled demolition is 2.7 million square feet of space and took months to rig with completely unfettered access? The building was long dead. No one worked there anymore while they drilled and gutted the fuck out of it to rig the miles of wiring and thousands of pounds of explosives.
The twin towers had 13 million square feet of space. Just one of the towers would be a job 3 times bigger and taller than the world record holder.
Think about all of the equipment and manpower needed, the logistics required to move that equipment hundreds of feet vertically and not disrupt the busy life of the twin Towers...and also do all of this drilling, wiring, removing debris, etc while never raising any suspicion. And not one of these black ops demolition experts ever felt remorseful for killing 3,000 Americans and blew the whistle?
You're an idiot. Educate yourself before you suggest dumb shit.
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But then this shows it on fire
Footage that kills the conspiracy theories: Rare footage shows WTC 7 consumed by fire | Daily Mail Online
This article actually goes against what I've been saying. World Trade Center 7 Report Puts 9/11 Conspiracy Theory to Rest
But this quote "The report determines that the actual culprit in the collapse was the combustion of ordinary building furnishings" still makes me have doubts.Comment
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How do you explain the presense of thermite dust on surrounding buildings, jerkoff?You're only displaying your complete ignorance of what happens when a building is rigged for controlled demolition. Let's entertain the notion/rumor that there were "maintenance men" working during non-working hours.
For one thing, the buildings were probably never truly empty in any sense of the word. There's cleaning people, security guards, etc who are there long after everyone goes home from work -- and probably lots of workaholics who stay late. No one talked to any of these mysterious maintenance men or filmed the massive amount of equipment needed -- which would need to be taken away from the site every day before everyone gets to their offices at 9am?
Do you realize the largest recorded controlled demolition is 2.7 million square feet of space and took months to rig with completely unfettered access? The building was long dead. No one worked there anymore while they drilled and gutted the fuck out of it to rig the miles of wiring and thousands of pounds of explosives.
The twin towers had 13 million square feet of space. Just one of the towers would be a job 3 times bigger and taller than the world record holder.
Think about all of the equipment and manpower needed, the logistics required to move that equipment hundreds of feet vertically and not disrupt the busy life of the twin Towers...and also do all of this drilling, wiring, removing debris, etc while never raising any suspicion. And not one of these black ops demolition experts ever felt remorseful for killing 3,000 Americans and blew the whistle?
You're an idiot. Educate yourself before you suggest dumb shit.Comment
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Notice, 90% of the tards that say it was an inside job also are Trump supporters.. That says a lot for the intelligence level of the average Trump supporter..
Then again most GFY Trump supporters think the moon landings were faked.. These are the type of people that hear what they want to hear and no amount of logic or reason can ever change their set in stone opinions.
Kinda like relgious fanatics or the Taliban.In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.Comment
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Interesting page.Comment
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Not this again.
I believe very strongly that this happened the way the government and the press have told us it happened. This was one of the most widely photographed and reported event of the decade if not our lifetime, and there are a lot of inconsistencies. However, you would expect this from any large scale event. If seven people witness the same car accident from six different angles, you can have three different versions of human nature.
As an example..... Some people are surprised there was "explosions" in the basement of one the the towers. The moment one of the planes hit there was a huge fireball sent down the elevator shafts that exploded in the main lobby seventy floors below. Perhaps that same fireball exploded in the basement? If not, there are dozens of other possible explanations - for example, all of the elevator shafts were destroyed at the top... Perhaps they crashed down into the lower levels.
WTC 7 falling wasn't fishy at all. Millions of tons of steel and concrete fell at the doorstep of WTC 7, some of it hitting WTC 7. Setting aside that the two towers falling was pretty much an earthquake, the two towers falling hit WTC 7 and cause significant damage to the building. The building was also on fire for hours.Herschel Savage
Brooklyn, NYComment
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For people to say they know exactly how a building should fall after it's been burning for hours is just ridiculous. They all have honorary degrees in physics.
WTC 7 falling wasn't fishy at all. Millions of tons of steel and concrete fell at the doorstep of WTC 7, some of it hitting WTC 7. Setting aside that the two towers falling was pretty much an earthquake, the two towers falling hit WTC 7 and cause significant damage to the building. The building was also on fire for hours.
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If only the plane headed for WTC7 hadn't got caught up in airport congestion, this collapse wouldn't have been questioned to the same extent

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buildings do not just fall. it has never happened before.Not this again.
WTC 7 falling wasn't fishy at all. Millions of tons of steel and concrete fell at the doorstep of WTC 7, some of it hitting WTC 7. Setting aside that the two towers falling was pretty much an earthquake, the two towers falling hit WTC 7 and cause significant damage to the building. The building was also on fire for hours.

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for some reason i find it funny that it is usually the same people that claim that the government is full of incompetent people that think that the same incompetent people could pull off a stunt like that - and of the thousands of people that would need to be involved not one ever confessed.Comment
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The shadow government are good at what they do.
Remember one of the Rockefeller's told Aaron Russo about 9/11 in advance
for some reason i find it funny that it is usually the same people that claim that the government is full of incompetent people that think that the same incompetent people could pull off a stunt like that - and of the thousands of people that would need to be involved not one ever confessed.Comment
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you can also claim that god came to you and touched your penis - has about the same validity
not once any of you nuts has put up solid proof
not once.Comment
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First you say that nobody in the know has admitted it, but then when given a well-known example you say they made it up, so you keep moving the goalposts to fit your belief.
Solid scientific evidence has been presented many times, but you're waiting for the BBC or CNN to tell you, that obviously won't be happening as it would be a threat to national security
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blabla - with that kind of argumentation you can make up every nonsenseFirst you say that nobody in the know has admitted it, but then when given a well-known example you say they made it up, so you keep moving the goalposts to fit your belief.
Solid scientific evidence has been presented many times, but you're waiting for the BBC or CNN to tell you, that obviously won't be happening as it would be a threat to national security
There's enough media out there that would happily present proof if it could harm the US government - still nada.
and nothing of your so called "solid evidence" - usually presented in shaky Youtube videos - hasn't been debunked yet.
but at least with 9/11 conspiracies people like you are no danger to others - opposed to vaccination - where people like you are actually actively helping that children die.Comment
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It's making it into science journals now, so it's going to be difficult for the Elite to stop it now
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In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.Comment
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You didn't read what I said. I didn't say "a fire took down WTC".
Here is what took down WTC:
1) The moment one of the planes hit one of the towers, debris from the impact hit WTC 7 hit the building, did a small amount of damage, and caused fires.
2) When one tower fell, it was like an earthquake.
3) When the second tower fell, it was like another earthquake.
4) When one of the towers fell, debris hit the WTC 7. It did so much more than "hit" the building - It pretty much buried the lower floors. You could not leave WTC 7 because the exit was covered with debris.
5) When the towers fell, it did a lot of damage to one side of WTC7, which destroyed the support of the upper floors.
6) The fires continued for hours, which eventually did the building in.
The video you see is of the far side of the building which looks completely undamaged. It's very misleading.Herschel Savage
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The natural security threat is if the truth gets admitted
We really don't need to go much further than WTC7, that's the one that got the thousands of architects and engineers on the case
9/11 truth could eventually spark a revolution and regime change, that generally comes with a lot of death too
If you're hoping for Big Pharma and the mainstream media to tell you about the dangers of vaccinations, that's not going to happen; both work together. The only way you can find out what I did is to do the research for yourself, but I doubt you're particularly interested in the topic, to be fair most will get bored with it quickly.Comment
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WTC7 wouldn't have fallen so perfectly
Come on Rochard, you must know deep down what happened, you've spent enough time thinking about this, I'm guessing you're just being loyal to your government at this stage
You didn't read what I said. I didn't say "a fire took down WTC".
Here is what took down WTC:
1) The moment one of the planes hit one of the towers, debris from the impact hit WTC 7 hit the building, did a small amount of damage, and caused fires.
2) When one tower fell, it was like an earthquake.
3) When the second tower fell, it was like another earthquake.
4) When one of the towers fell, debris hit the WTC 7. It did so much more than "hit" the building - It pretty much buried the lower floors. You could not leave WTC 7 because the exit was covered with debris.
5) When the towers fell, it did a lot of damage to one side of WTC7, which destroyed the support of the upper floors.
6) The fires continued for hours, which eventually did the building in.
The video you see is of the far side of the building which looks completely undamaged. It's very misleading.Comment
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You will never convince those who drink the government cool-aid because they blindly accept the "official story".
Just like arguing religion with someone who has "faith" when all the evidence points to an obviously totally other conclusion.
It would rock their world to the very core to even entertain the thought that their protective government could do something like this to manipulate the population (collateral damage is perfectly acceptable and necessary to reach the ultimate goal) and horrify them to think that if the government can do this just imagine what else they are capable of doing (and next time perhaps to them or their family)!
Denial is a powerful thing indeed!
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