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  • Paul Markham
    Too old to care
    • Jun 2001
    • 52942

    #1

    Adapt or die.

    Recently I've seen so many posts from people who hate adapting, even some who think other people owe them a living.

    Unless a contract from a sponsor states the sponsor isn't allowed to drop and affiliate or a method of promoting. They have as much right to change as affiliates do. The "work/support/loyalty so far" has been paid for. That's it. Adapt and move on.

    Adblockers will gain in popularity because with them in use surfers life is sweeter. The growth of Adblockers is down to the overuse of ads. In porn, they have devastated sales and profits. Any porn site relies on people paying for porn, that doesn't promoteAdblockers is losing money.

    Live Webcams are the future. Sites, where girls talk to customers in their native language, will take traffic from the old fashioned style. The girls who earn big bucks are the key to success. Third World Studios are the past.

    The MG and Met-Art's will dominate the business. They have 10,000s signing up every day. They can spend more on content than those signing up 10 a day. They can also cross promote one customer to each other and to their own sites. This is going to make affiliates more and more redundant. The big companies can also do their own promotion.
    The days of 1,000s of TGP sites automatically getting a slice of traffic are gone. Apart from the top 20 Tube sites, which one's are really needed?

    Should adblockers become so good Tubes close, will the big boys have 1,000s of affiliates taking a slice of their business or have in-house staff?

    The time to adapt for some was 8 years ago if you haven't adapted by now. It's already too late.



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  • AdultKing
    Raise Your Weapon
    • Jun 2003
    • 15601

    #2
    The Paul Markham Experience is on again folks.

    Sorry Paul, but yet again, you're wrong.

    I am running AdBlock Plus and uBlock side by side.

    I went to PornHub and AdBlock Plus blocked 7 resources, uBlock blocked 15 however there are still ads.

    Top of front page:



    See the banner to the right, loaded fine and bypassed the two best ad blockers

    Lower portion of front page:



    3 ads one for Brazzers and the other two for dating, all bypassing the two best ad blockers.

    Now while it's true I might have evaded a pop under, and maybe even some other tracking resources, I still see four ads before leaving the front page and delving further into the site.

    Ad Blockers cannot and will not stop all ads. They will not harm companies like MindGeek to the extent you would wish them to. Rather than blabbering on in every thread about things that you do not understand, why don't you actually install some ad blockers and find out for yourself how effective they are.

    https://ublock.org/

    https://adblockplus.org/

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    • NatalieK
      Natalie K
      • Apr 2010
      • 20106

      #3
      I believe the adapt or die depends on the business & who is already part of your business.

      I think you have to evolve & keep up with the times, but no need to change, just grow, learn & become bigger if you want to earn more & become better
      My official site Custom vids Make money & get into the businessFirst time girls
      Skype: GspotProductions - "Converting traffic into income since 2005"

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      • Paul Markham
        Too old to care
        • Jun 2001
        • 52942

        #4
        Originally posted by GspotProductions
        I believe the adapt or die depends on the business & who is already part of your business.

        I think you have to evolve & keep up with the times, but no need to change, just grow, learn & become bigger if you want to earn more & become better
        Agreed for people with a business like yours. Can they push the marketing side harder, change where, how and what they market? Yes. But it's always going to be based on one person until they find another person to team up with, then another and still keeping the essential element of the original person.



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        • NatalieK
          Natalie K
          • Apr 2010
          • 20106

          #5
          Originally posted by Paul Markham
          Agreed for people with a business like yours. Can they push the marketing side harder, change where, how and what they market? Yes. But it's always going to be based on one person until they find another person to team up with, then another and still keeping the essential element of the original person.
          Absolutely true Paul. The marketing can be changed to appeal to a new crowd, a lot of new sales can be made via new sites. With this, yes, we have had to adapt. I've had to adapt personally for custom vids, if I didn't, then these sales would have fell through & death of my business would have occurred.

          There are a few models, both male & female who have wanted to do shared content, this I have stuck to my own. Maybe losing out on a few deals & maybe a lot of marketing, however, I would rather keep my content to my own, knowing if people see me, NatalieK on film, it's my own content & my own right
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          • Barry-xlovecam
            It's 42
            • Jun 2010
            • 18083

            #6
            Markham seems to have a hard on for cam studios now.
            You know so little about who you are trolling ...

            Adult Webcam technology is rabidly evolving [*that is not a typo].
            The industry is just laughing at you.
            I am laughing at your rants.


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            • Relic
              So Fucking Banned
              • Aug 2002
              • 10300

              #7
              Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
              Markham seems to have a hard on

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              • Barry-xlovecam
                It's 42
                • Jun 2010
                • 18083

                #8
                Markham is now the spokesman of ad blockers?

                Like I said previously, ad blockers may have a golden lining -- reducing the ads supporting tubes and file lockers (and such). Note I said 'reducing'. The ads that are seen on those sites will increase in value, if and only if, the ads' CTR and consequential ROI increases.

                Tubes and file lockers may just end up making more money with more ad revenue

                Sword cuts both ways

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                • Paul Markham
                  Too old to care
                  • Jun 2001
                  • 52942

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                  Markham seems to have a hard on for cam studios now.
                  You know so little about who you are trolling ...

                  Adult Webcam technology is rabidly evolving [*that is not a typo].
                  The industry is just laughing at you.
                  I am laughing at your rants.


                  After Tubes the biggest change to online porn has been the Chaturbate, MFC type sites.

                  chaturbate.com | Alexa ranking & traffic history for 7 years
                  July 16, 2016 370 Million Desktop+Mobile sessions
                  160 Million Desktop sessions per month
                  Alexa Rank 294

                  myfreecams.com | Alexa ranking & traffic history for 7 years
                  July 16, 2016110 Million Desktop+Mobile sessions
                  48 Million Desktop sessions per month
                  Alexa rank 1047

                  cam4.com | Alexa ranking & traffic history for 7 years
                  July 16, 2016 120 Million Desktop+Mobile sessions
                  52 Million Desktop sessions per month
                  1170 Alexa Rank

                  These type of sites are either soaking up customers who used to pay, or/and soaking up customers who are still paying. The move to live chat with independent models is growing.

                  I also pointed other parts of the industry so no hard on for cams, just pointing out the changes overall.

                  These stats are vital for potential models and affiliates.



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                  • Paul Markham
                    Too old to care
                    • Jun 2001
                    • 52942

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                    The ads that are seen on those sites will increase in value, if and only if, the ads' CTR and consequential ROI increases.
                    Explain how the traffic can increase in value, please?



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                    • Barry-xlovecam
                      It's 42
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 18083

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Paul Markham
                      After Tubes the biggest change to online porn has been the Chaturbate, MFC type sites.

                      ...

                      These type of sites are either soaking up customers who used to pay, or/and soaking up customers who are still paying. The move to live chat with independent models is growing.
                      More assumptions based on the only statistics available to you.

                      You ever sat for a few hours in some of those token tip website rooms and counted (or taken notice) the average money spent in a sample of rooms? Taken the time to come up with a valid analysis? No, just hit up Alexa a repeat what they tell you

                      Originally posted by Paul Markham
                      Explain how the traffic can increase in value, please?

                      You are trolling?

                      Business 101 Paul.

                      Blocked ad CTR = 1:30,000
                      Ad seen CTR = 1:1000

                      This effect would be similar for paysite or camsite CTR and perhaps adult dating ads.


                      Advertising has not changed in 500 years -- I has to be seen, or heard [radio], to be effective

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                      • SBJ
                        So Fucking Fabulous
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 11387

                        #12
                        Adapt or die.
                        Dude weren't you born in like 1892?? Isn't it time for you to do the 2nd?

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                        • Paul Markham
                          Too old to care
                          • Jun 2001
                          • 52942

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                          More assumptions based on the only statistics available to you.

                          You ever sat for a few hours in some of those token tip website rooms and counted (or taken notice) the average money spent in a sample of rooms? Taken the time to come up with a valid analysis? No, just hit up Alexa a repeat what they tell you
                          So Western European girls are working on those sites and earning less than Third World webcam studio girls.


                          You are trolling?

                          Business 101 Paul.

                          Blocked ad CTR = 1:30,000
                          Ad seen

                          = 1:1000

                          This effect would be similar for paysite or camsite CTR and perhaps adult dating ads.


                          Advertising has not changed in 500 years -- I has to be seen, or heard [radio], to be effective
                          Where did you get those stats and did you need to stand up to pull them out?

                          Click-through rate (CTR) is the ratio of users who click on a specific link to the number of total users who view a page, email, or advertisement.

                          Surfers on the page make no difference except in B/W cost. Clickers are what produce the $$$.

                          On Tubes which type of advertising is the most effective, Branding, impulse, creative or classified? Given the audience?



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                          • Speigelau
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 3032

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Paul Markham
                            After Tubes the biggest change to online porn has been the Chaturbate, MFC type sites.

                            chaturbate.com | Alexa ranking & traffic history for 7 years
                            July 16, 2016 370 Million Desktop+Mobile sessions
                            160 Million Desktop sessions per month
                            Alexa Rank 294

                            myfreecams.com | Alexa ranking & traffic history for 7 years
                            July 16, 2016110 Million Desktop+Mobile sessions
                            48 Million Desktop sessions per month
                            Alexa rank 1047

                            cam4.com | Alexa ranking & traffic history for 7 years
                            July 16, 2016 120 Million Desktop+Mobile sessions
                            52 Million Desktop sessions per month
                            1170 Alexa Rank

                            These type of sites are either soaking up customers who used to pay, or/and soaking up customers who are still paying. The move to live chat with independent models is growing.

                            I also pointed other parts of the industry so no hard on for cams, just pointing out the changes overall.

                            These stats are vital for potential models and affiliates.


                            Paul, your initial post in this thread would have been appropriate in 2006. Cam4 and MFC were widely popular before tubes hit the scene. You've tried to talk about cams before and it becomes clear real quick, that you are clueless about the timeline and popularity of cams. You could have been promoting them on your site in 2003 and making a killing, but no matter what kind of advice people gave you, you marched on doing things stubbornly your way, and it cost you.


                            Recently I've seen so many posts from people who hate adapting, even some who think other people owe them a living.
                            You just described yourself perfectly in 2007 with that quote. Many here tried to tell you what you needed to do with your site to adapt to the changing landscape in adult, but you ignored any advice. The writing was on the wall a decade ago that cams and dating were the future of adult. Your comments on gfy during that time period and today often portray an attitude that the industry owes you something because of your longevity.

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                            • Paul Markham
                              Too old to care
                              • Jun 2001
                              • 52942

                              #15
                              Originally posted by SBJ
                              Dude weren't you born in like 1892?? Isn't it time for you to do the 2nd?
                              1950 and in a week I will be 66.

                              During those times I had to learn selling, advertising, and marketing. Across different businesses. Clothing, office furniture, advertising and porn. The same rules apply with a little adaptation. Webmasters can only hang onto "The Internet is different" and "You don't understand how online marketing works"

                              Other than dumping the maximum number of people onto a page and hoping someone behind that sites has a clue in selling, advertising, and marketing. There's no difference. With recorded porn traffic doesn't equal maximum dollars.

                              Webcam models on certain sites offer an indication to where they earn the better. They're not like a free tube clip, they want to earn money and free to choose where's best.

                              I see someone here trying to defend not adapting to a new market place.



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