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Old 04-07-2003, 01:29 AM   #101
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i bet u 50% of ppl who read this thread are searching for "cheat google" or asking their l33t AOL buddies how this can b done.

It it kind of funny I guess because thats probably true.

Some people who read this thread are still out there prowling around for a way to get high ranking google positions when one blueprint for top positions is sitting right in this thread
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Old 04-07-2003, 01:31 AM   #102
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It it kind of funny I guess because thats probably true.

Some people who read this thread are still out there prowling around for a way to get high ranking google positions when one blueprint for top positions is sitting right in this thread
there is ways with .coms also,
i guess theres a way for anything when u think about,

just like charlie and the chocolate factory,

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Old 04-07-2003, 01:34 AM   #103
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I still have mine.
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Old 04-07-2003, 02:07 AM   #104
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you guys who are hating on the haters should just get over it already. The people who actually do the best in google don't get noticed by the spam haters in the first place.

Although hats off to this dude at the moment he has certainly done a nice job.. he might have to work on a new strategy shortly though. It will be interesting to see if his strategy works after the next update.
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Old 04-07-2003, 02:43 AM   #105
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you guys who are hating on the haters should just get over it already. The people who actually do the best in google don't get noticed by the spam haters in the first place.

Although hats off to this dude at the moment he has certainly done a nice job.. he might have to work on a new strategy shortly though. It will be interesting to see if his strategy works after the next update.
What this guy is doing is going to make it hard for google to deal with. His pages do a good job at simulating actual interlinked websites. Thats probably why hes not banned yet. Because all they can really do is manually ban his hundreds of domains... and manually doing anything sucks ;)

Google still sells their premium spots, and mainstream businesses are 50x-100x (hehe) less competitive for keywords than adult.

And it's not like the guy doens't have webpages that don't match up with his keywords.

Googles priority on fixing this OUTRAGEOUS EXPLOITATION () of their system is pretty evident no?

In fact from what I've seen, they've already tightened it up a little.. hes still in the top 3 on main keywords though.
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Old 04-07-2003, 03:08 AM   #106
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They could almost blanket ban him based on info in the whois for the domains. It if fairly consistent across most of the domains and I know google keep this information. Google don't like doing this, they like elegant algorithm based solutions (i.e. fix the problem not the symptom) nonetheless if it really got out of hand they would do it.


Having said that google's policy on spam like this is basically a complaints based approach. If they get enough complaints they might take a look at it. As you have said the end pages match the keywords (and there isn't exit hell) so the complaints are probably only going to come from disgruntled webmasters who have lost positions. So chances are he might be safe for sometime.

If he is going to get these domains banned I would say the moment of truth is the next update.. and well solution is always buy new domains. ) His problem is he will have generated a lot more competition for himself by all of us scrutinising his work. Nice problem to have though I suppose
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Old 04-07-2003, 03:11 AM   #107
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i don't think he's going to care if his domains get black listed.. he's just going to take few hours to register more domains get shit re submitted and start making bank again... least i would
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Old 04-07-2003, 03:28 AM   #108
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I hope he has made enough to make it worthwhile before google bans his ass. Another clown with a subtler approach is 4-bukkake.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...TF-8&q=bukkake

Small spider trap.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...4-bukkake.com/
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Old 04-07-2003, 04:53 AM   #109
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They could almost blanket ban him based on info in the whois for the domains. It if fairly consistent across most of the domains and I know google keep this information.
No they don't.

And what if he (or someone in the future) opted to keep their information private? You think the registrar who is getting one guys business of 100's of domains is going to piss this client off? lol
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Old 04-07-2003, 05:04 AM   #110
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No they don't.

And what if he (or someone in the future) opted to keep their information private? You think the registrar who is getting one guys business of 100's of domains is going to piss this client off? lol
uh yes they do.

Like i said nothing to stop him buying new domains.
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Old 04-07-2003, 09:08 AM   #111
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4 bukkake is not doing anything wrong that i could see. He has a tight link structure but he is not doing the redirect or keyword thing.
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Old 04-07-2003, 10:06 AM   #112
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uh yes they do.

Ok I'm wrong. Google has 'blanket ban' capabilities and a database of whois data for all of the domains they index thats kept up to date. You must know people that work there with information like that
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Old 04-16-2003, 01:51 AM   #113
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Hmm..well this guy was listing quite well in the latest Google update but I'm looking right now and it looks like Google have dumped almost all his listings across the board. Interesting.
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Old 04-16-2003, 02:07 AM   #114
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Old 04-16-2003, 02:08 AM   #115
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Hmm..well this guy was listing quite well in the latest Google update but I'm looking right now and it looks like Google have dumped almost all his listings across the board. Interesting.
Yes, I'm sure 10,000 cry babies were hitting the report button at least 10 times a day.
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Old 04-24-2003, 01:41 AM   #116
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Yep he is back again. Just switched his domains he uses to link to adult. Easy if you have PR9 non-adult site and cloak User Agent. He doesn't even need the deepbot to have his PR computed, freshbot makes all the job
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Old 04-24-2003, 01:53 AM   #117
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... see, one thing I really can´t understand is: why don´t people just study this guy a little bit before they start complaining. it´s pretty easy to copy whatever he is doing, but unfortunatly ... you will have to use your brain !!

... so think about it, within less than 4 weeks time it could be YOU packing in the traffic !!!
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Old 04-24-2003, 02:00 AM   #118
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what are his non-adult domains ?
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Old 04-24-2003, 02:03 AM   #119
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what are his non-adult domains ?
... try answer this question by yourself and you have take the first step into successfully working google !!!
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Old 04-24-2003, 02:04 AM   #120
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what are his non-adult domains ?
Too many to list.
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Old 04-24-2003, 02:13 AM   #121
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I have links to my new .biz domains on my pr5 domains that are freshbotted daily but none of the .biz pages are getting listed yet. I thought this was the way to compete but ...
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Old 04-24-2003, 02:18 AM   #122
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I have links to my new .biz domains on my pr5 domains that are freshbotted daily but none of the .biz pages are getting listed yet. I thought this was the way to compete but ...
I dunno... but the spammes non-adult domains are at least a 6PR from what I have seen so his adult ,biz domains are becoming PR 5 usually. And if you are linking to .biz domains from a PR of 5 , those .biz pages will be PR 4 or lower.

And he has russian sites with PR of least a 7 linking to him.

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Old 04-24-2003, 02:43 AM   #123
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thanks phogirl
you seem to have put in as much time as I have or more on this. The domains that have links to my new .biz sites all have april 23rd freshdate.But I do not think google has calculated pr for this guys .biz domains yet, they are technically not even in the index yet if you search for the domain itself it comes up "no information on this domain"

Unless of course he has another way in that we have not figured out.
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Old 04-24-2003, 04:32 AM   #124
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thanks phogirl
you seem to have put in as much time as I have or more on this. The domains that have links to my new .biz sites all have april 23rd freshdate.But I do not think google has calculated pr for this guys .biz domains yet, they are technically not even in the index yet if you search for the domain itself it comes up "no information on this domain"

Unless of course he has another way in that we have not figured out.
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Old 04-24-2003, 04:43 AM   #125
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But I do not think google has calculated pr for this guys .biz domains yet, they are technically not even in the index yet if you search for the domain itself it comes up "no information on this domain"

Unfortunately I don't know which .biz domains you are referring too,he has quite a lot But some his older .biz domains from last time are PR 5, but perhaps you are referring to new ones not freshbotted yet?

I admit this guy is good! Last time I checked I could have sworn he had someone with a PR 9 linking to him! Either he payed them, or he must have some good friends... Are you using a script to crank out pages Littlecloud or doing it all by hand?

I've seen some people do very good too with handmade pages, but not on such a massive scale as this guy, he's got like just about every niche in existence covered.
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Old 04-24-2003, 05:21 AM   #126
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Jealousy is such an ugly emotion. But then this guy is making more at the moment than the vast majority of this board could even dream about. There's traffic floating around his sites that would even make the hun look twice
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Old 04-24-2003, 05:24 AM   #127
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... it´s pretty easy to copy whatever he is doing, but unfortunatly ... you will have to use your brain !!

... so think about it, within less than 4 weeks time it could be YOU packing in the traffic !!!
It's not that easy, it's still hard to get non-adult domains with high PR like 7 or 8. And since google claims its going to do something to its algorithm so that people can't use expired domains for PR anymore, I think you have to do it from scratch.
It might be possible but I don't think it's easy. I think it might take a bit more than 4 weeks to get a PR to a 7. Might be easier if you have some friends with very high PR of like 8 or so who will link to you for free...
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"Might be easier if you have some friends with very high PR of like 8 or so who will link to you for free..."

... how about the persuasive charm of $$$?
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Old 04-24-2003, 07:12 AM   #129
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I am doing all by hand , I dont use any scripts.

So we are assuming if I have a freshbotted site of pr6 or 7 or maybe even must be pr8. Any .biz domains I link to from this domain will be in the results of google without waiting for the next update.

Then I must wait until the next dance since my freshbot domains are only pr5
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