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07-25-2016, 06:33 PM

Europe is now completely heading for disaster. I wonder what it will look like 15 years from now but I suspect that its going to be a war torn region and, if you look at motivations and other factors it looks like the following countries are most at risk from being decimated:

France
Italy
Spain
Portugal
Belgium
Hungary
Austria
Spain
Sweden
Germany
Ireland
Netherlands

and possibly others, including the UK.

I'm talking about sheer decimation with the death toll in tens if not hundreds of millions. Sheer incompetence in the EU has let to this state of affairs. It's got momentum and it's baked in the cake so be warned about this when you think about your future planning.

As for Germany, well four attacks in the last week alone?

Germany attacks: What is going on? - BBC News

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07-25-2016, 08:59 PM

European countries have already lost and are losing more sovereignty to Brussels. By the day.

The UK voting out will hopefully spur more to vote out and destroy this flawed experiment.

As for the Muslim invasion, that was because a few Germans thought it would be nice to open Europes doors.

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07-25-2016, 10:15 PM

That is the short version as to why him and not.....some others.
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07-25-2016, 10:54 PM

The ignorance in this place is unbelievable. Stop being scared little kids lol

But.... I pulled out...
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07-25-2016, 11:49 PM

Originally posted by Markul

The ignorance in this place is unbelievable. Stop being scared little kids lol

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07-26-2016, 12:08 AM

luckily the op is not sitting in any parlement. One out means nothing, there is no other country taking their changes or slowing down their economy or invoking taxes to pay for an out. Even the UK didn't think people would vote to go leave and now they have to handle something they actually didn't think that would ever happen.

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07-26-2016, 12:29 AM

Originally posted by Markul

The ignorance in this place is unbelievable. Stop being scared little kids lol

Agree with this. Theres a shooting in the US almost daily, people in China and Russia have almost no human rights and noone knows how many are killed over there daily.. But yeah Europe is suffering a Muslim invasion lol

Really you are all talking without knowing whats going on. I would advise watching media less. I think the Britts are fucking stupid for leaving the EU cause I believe from unity comes strength and although the EU is not perfect I think its a necessity to band together to face big economies like China/Russia/US.

I live in the Netherlands, at first I was against the EU, now I see that its the only way to go.
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07-26-2016, 12:30 AM

oh no! immigrants!...thats what the EU gets for licking US foreign policy asshole...the USA tore up the middle east with its mickey mouse politics and now the EU has waves of refugees...noooo...if only there had been a clue this would happen like it happened in all wars before

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07-26-2016, 01:16 AM

Originally posted by GLMBV

Agree with this. Theres a shooting in the US almost daily, people in China and Russia have almost no human rights and noone knows how many are killed over there daily.. But yeah Europe is suffering a Muslim invasion lol.

Most jews where saying the same thing in... 1938.
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07-26-2016, 01:51 AM

Originally posted by H-Tom

Most jews where saying the same thing in... 1938.

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07-26-2016, 02:06 AM

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luckily the op is not sitting in any parlement. One out means nothing, there is no other country taking their changes or slowing down their economy or invoking taxes to pay for an out. Even the UK didn't think people would vote to go leave and now they have to handle something they actually didn't think that would ever happen.

Will other countries offer their citizens a referendum?

We already see the growth of anti-EU politicians and political parties. There's nothing wrong with haveing a united trade deal between a group of countries. The problem arises when a group of unelected bureaucrats decide they should rule from the center.

Did you know that no EU country can negotiate its own trade deal with a non-EU country? This is why China can dump so much cheap steel and any other product it chooses, into the EU. Leaving EU countries to go cap in hand to China begging it to buy more. An independant UK can tell China to buy more or sell less.

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07-26-2016, 03:17 AM

Originally posted by Paul Markham

An independant UK can tell China to buy more or sell less.

the UK is 4% of chinas export
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07-26-2016, 04:51 AM

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07-26-2016, 04:53 AM

Originally posted by GLMBV

Agree with this. Theres a shooting in the US almost daily, people in China and Russia have almost no human rights and noone knows how many are killed over there daily.. But yeah Europe is suffering a Muslim invasion lol

Really you are all talking without knowing whats going on. I would advise watching media less. I think the Britts are fucking stupid for leaving the EU cause I believe from unity comes strength and although the EU is not perfect I think its a necessity to band together to face big economies like China/Russia/US.

I live in the Netherlands, at first I was against the EU, now I see that its the only way to go.

you forgot the UK, they are also not in the new Reich too
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07-26-2016, 05:05 AM

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07-26-2016, 05:10 AM

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07-26-2016, 07:47 AM

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There was no sovereignty for Europe since WWII. Half of Europe is under the USA and another half is under Russia.

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07-26-2016, 08:15 AM

Originally posted by CyberSEO

There was no sovereignty for Europe since WWII. Half of Europe is under the USA and another half is under Russia.

That's why European Union was created and it has partially succeeded to distant its members from the grip of these two imperialist superpowers
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07-26-2016, 08:26 AM

Originally posted by CyberSEO

There was no sovereignty for Europe since WWII. Half of Europe is under the USA and another half is under Russia.

who's boss in Europe?

PS: we long time ago withdraw our troops from Europe. we gave them freedom. but usa stay

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07-26-2016, 08:27 AM

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07-26-2016, 08:46 AM

Originally posted by Paul Markham

European countries have already lost and are losing more sovereignty to Brussels. By the day.

The UK voting out will hopefully spur more to vote out and destroy this flawed experiment.

As for the Muslim invasion, that was because a few Germans thought it would be nice to open Europes doors.

You totally missed the point again...

Climb a mountain and watch the overview instead of repeating your pathetic nationalistic; so called democratic arguments. Today's problems will look like futilities compared to the problems a failed Europe 20 years ahead will have to face. Stop serving short term solutions... Some of us here are young enough to live 20 years from now. The world doesn't evovle around you...

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07-26-2016, 09:51 AM

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07-26-2016, 10:07 AM

Europe is not a county or a nationality.

The EU is an allegiance or better called a confederation.

You can leave if you want.

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07-26-2016, 10:09 AM

Originally posted by Paul Markham

European countries have already lost and are losing more sovereignty to Brussels. By the day.

The UK voting out will hopefully spur more to vote out and destroy this flawed experiment.

As for the Muslim invasion, that was because a few Germans thought it would be nice to open Europes doors.
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07-26-2016, 10:22 AM

Originally posted by Paul Markham

As for the Muslim invasion, that was because a few Germans thought it would be nice to open Europes doors.

Bullshit!

That's because the west decided to meddle in the middle east with bombs.
And the last 20+ years of meddling was fucked beyond any common sense.
This is the result of the "regime changes".

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07-26-2016, 10:39 AM

Originally posted by crucifissio

oh no! immigrants!...thats what the EU gets for licking US foreign policy asshole...the USA tore up the middle east with its mickey mouse politics and now the EU has waves of refugees...noooo...if only there had been a clue this would happen like it happened in all wars before

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07-26-2016, 11:09 AM

Originally posted by Look Chang

That's why European Union was created and it has partially succeeded to distant its members from the grip of these two imperialist superpowers

I wouldn't call it a success. A half of Europe is still under and IN Russia, while another half is ruled by Americans.

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The EU is an allegiance or better called a confederation.

Yep, I still remember the Soviet Union. It lasted for 70 years. Will the EU least that long?

Originally posted by Matt-ADX

You really are brain dead. The Arab spring wasn't a product of the US...

O'rly? ;)

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07-26-2016, 11:13 AM

We've yet to see what Trump will do.

Germany is his ancestral homeland, and I think he cares deeply about the fate of the German, and European people. It's not yet too late.
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07-26-2016, 11:19 AM

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07-26-2016, 11:26 AM

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You really are brain dead. The Arab spring wasn't a product of the US...

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07-26-2016, 11:28 AM

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I wouldn't call it a success. A half of Europe is still under and IN Russia

What do geografical aspects have to do with this discussion? When reffering to Europe no one is reffering to the geografical part of Europe which is in Russia's territory. I'm sorry if I wiped my shoes on your Russian carpet but we are not talking about the geografical continent. So... no more Babylonian confusion when we talk about Europe... mkay?

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07-26-2016, 11:45 AM

Originally posted by Matt-ADX

You really are brain dead. The Arab spring wasn't a product of the US...

well, it's a crippled version of this
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07-26-2016, 11:50 AM

Originally posted by Vendot

Europe is now completely heading for disaster. I wonder what it will look like 15 years from now but I suspect that its going to be a war torn region and, if you look at motivations and other factors it looks like the following countries are most at risk from being decimated:

France
Italy
Spain
Portugal
Belgium
Hungary
Austria
Spain
Sweden
Germany
Ireland
Netherlands

and possibly others, including the UK.

I'm talking about sheer decimation with the death toll in tens if not hundreds of millions. Sheer incompetence in the EU has let to this state of affairs. It's got momentum and it's baked in the cake so be warned about this when you think about your future planning.

As for Germany, well four attacks in the last week alone?

Germany attacks: What is going on? - BBC News

I do think the "death toll of hundreds of millions" is a huge exaggeration I'm curious to know why you think Sweden, Belgium and Netherlands (and to smaller extent, Hungary) are at a risk of being decimated? As far as I know there's no huge calamities going on over there right now...?

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07-26-2016, 11:51 AM

Originally posted by crucifissio

no the US alone is not to blame...the EU takes some credit too...now you are paying the consequences...

No, i'm pretty sure you are too considering you are in europe also. you keep giggling but all this shit is knocking on your door, not ours..

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07-26-2016, 11:55 AM

Originally posted by Struggle4Bucks

What do geografical aspects have to do with this discussion? When reffering to Europe no one is reffering to the geografical part of Europe which is in Russia's territory.

So which part exactly do you refer then? If you don't know what geography is and speak about the EU only, so let be honest and call it which it is: a part of Middle East and a new Muslim State. You are a danger for the rest of civilized world now, do you understand that? I want to see our part of Europe to be separated with your one.

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07-26-2016, 12:24 PM

Originally posted by GLMBV

Agree with this. Theres a shooting in the US almost daily, people in China and Russia have almost no human rights and noone knows how many are killed over there daily.. But yeah Europe is suffering a Muslim invasion lol

Really you are all talking without knowing whats going on. I would advise watching media less. I think the Britts are fucking stupid for leaving the EU cause I believe from unity comes strength and although the EU is not perfect I think its a necessity to band together to face big economies like China/Russia/US.

I live in the Netherlands, at first I was against the EU, now I see that its the only way to go.

Exactly

But.... I pulled out...
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07-26-2016, 12:28 PM

Originally posted by CyberSEO

So which part exactly do you refer then? If you don't know what geography is and speak about the EU only, so let be honest and call it which it is: a part of Middle East and a new Muslim State. You are a danger for the rest of civilized world now, do you understand that? I want to see our part of Europe to be separated with your one.

Good... just leave your nationalistic russian undertone out of the discussion...
That said... there is not a problem that can't be fixed... so don't worry... Europe will buy the needed gas from Russia...

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07-26-2016, 12:56 PM

Originally posted by Markul

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07-26-2016, 01:27 PM

Originally posted by Markul

Exactly

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07-26-2016, 05:07 PM

Originally posted by PR_Glen

No, i'm pretty sure you are too considering you are in europe also. you keep giggling but all this shit is knocking on your door, not ours..

Oh no bro...they aint staying here LOL...they are wellcome to stay theres just no aid or food or jobs...serbia is the whitest country on earth this is fact...I have not seen a brown or black for months...we had this black basket ball player once...once...they are moving in right next to mineistaken and will not adapt...

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07-26-2016, 06:01 PM

Originally posted by Adnium_Ivana

I do think the "death toll of hundreds of millions" is a huge exaggeration

Good. If you still have an earthly vessel, come back to this thread in 2030 and we will see how things are going.

I'm curious to know why you think Sweden, Belgium and Netherlands (and to smaller extent, Hungary) are at a risk of being decimated?

Because most of Europe will be affected including Switzerland with a focus on those allied to the US, Christian populations, participants in the war against terror/ISIS/middle eastern countries, former colonial powers, those with laws perceived as anti-islamic, future developments and there are many other considerations. However, the Quran is also very clear about certain countries in a vision of how invasion should play out. For example, nothing is complete without the fall of Rome.

I cannot predict the outcome but I think this all starts with France and Italy for strategic reasons and due to geographic positioning and that slavic countries, though affected, will be much less so. That thinking for me relies on my assessment of geo political alignments but to be clear I'm not talking about disruption, I'm talking about decimation, the complete loss of sovereignty of those countries affected and restarting of the furnaces that were left behind in wars gone before.

Its coming but I think if we squint, we can all see it coming...

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07-26-2016, 07:57 PM

Originally posted by crucifissio

the UK is 4% of chinas export
china is 4% of UK-s export

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It's $$$ that matter, not %.

However, I do agree with more pressure to buy British made goods. The UK can pass laws for this once they're out of the EU. At the moment Brussels makes those laws.

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07-26-2016, 08:01 PM

Originally posted by Struggle4Bucks

You totally missed the point again...

Climb a mountain and watch the overview instead of repeating your pathetic nationalistic; so called democratic arguments. Today's problems will look like futilities compared to the problems a failed Europe 20 years ahead will have to face. Stop serving short term solutions... Some of us here are young enough to live 20 years from now. The world doesn't evovle around you...

I am looking forward 20 years. If WEurope continues as it is. And the EU survives. The vast majority will be a lot poorer. The proof of that is in the stats already available.

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07-26-2016, 08:04 PM

Originally posted by blackmonsters

Bullshit!

That's because the west decided to meddle in the middle east with bombs.
And the last 20+ years of meddling was fucked beyond any common sense.
This is the result of the "regime changes".

Agree. We need to allow Muslims to be ruled by leaders who have the answers. Kill anyone who might just be trouble. Because removing these leaders doesn't work.

I would put the meddling back to the end of WW2. Creating Israel was the start.

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07-26-2016, 10:56 PM

Originally posted by Struggle4Bucks

Good... just leave your nationalistic russian undertone out of the discussion...

Nationalistic Russian undertone? Are you drunk or what? Russia has always been a multinational country. I've just said that it's cool we have a border with the EU, because your rapefugees are not welcomed here.

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That said... there is not a problem that can't be fixed... so don't worry...

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07-27-2016, 12:14 AM

Originally posted by Vendot

Europe is now completely heading for disaster. I wonder what it will look like 15 years from now but I suspect that its going to be a war torn region and, if you look at motivations and other factors it looks like the following countries are most at risk from being decimated:

France
Italy
Spain
Portugal
Belgium
Hungary
Austria
Spain
Sweden
Germany
Ireland
Netherlands

and possibly others, including the UK.

I'm talking about sheer decimation with the death toll in tens if not hundreds of millions. Sheer incompetence in the EU has let to this state of affairs. It's got momentum and it's baked in the cake so be warned about this when you think about your future planning.

As for Germany, well four attacks in the last week alone?

Germany attacks: What is going on? - BBC News

Countries have sovereignty. Continents do not (except Australia given that country encompasses an entire continent.)

Europe is a continent.
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07-27-2016, 12:56 AM

Originally posted by Paul Markham

It's $$$ that matter, not %.

However, I do agree with more pressure to buy British made goods. The UK can pass laws for this once they're out of the EU. At the moment Brussels makes those laws.

no paul % is the only thing that matters...100$ to you may not be the same as 100% to bill gates...but 4% is 4%...

and no again, you can not pressure people in to buying your un-competitive goods...

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07-27-2016, 05:06 AM

Originally posted by crucifissio

no paul % is the only thing that matters...100$ to you may not be the same as 100% to bill gates...but 4% is 4%...

Damn right...

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07-27-2016, 09:52 AM

Originally posted by Vendot

Good. If you still have an earthly vessel, come back to this thread in 2030 and we will see how things are going.

Because most of Europe will be affected including Switzerland with a focus on those allied to the US, Christian populations, participants in the war against terror/ISIS/middle eastern countries, former colonial powers, those with laws perceived as anti-islamic, future developments and there are many other considerations. However, the Quran is also very clear about certain countries in a vision of how invasion should play out. For example, nothing is complete without the fall of Rome.

I cannot predict the outcome but I think this all starts with France and Italy for strategic reasons and due to geographic positioning and that slavic countries, though affected, will be much less so. That thinking for me relies on my assessment of geo political alignments but to be clear I'm not talking about disruption, I'm talking about decimation, the complete loss of sovereignty of those countries affected and restarting of the furnaces that were left behind in wars gone before.

Its coming but I think if we squint, we can all see it coming...

How do you unit a large group of people with different cultures and languages and quickly turn that into a fully integrated super state?

You have a big fucking war!

Most likely candidate Russia IMO

We'll also need a trigger event first like 1929, a collapse of a currency or bank runs. You can't force people to fight in a war before you've stripped them of everything they own, that would just be silly!
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