Would've been better with training wheels...

not sure i follow, how is iraq going to help the US? customers are customers, why wouldn't the sell globally, instead of just the big ballers?

We can get rid of ours next year.

It was launched once for the experiment - the results were incredible !
It should proove that our shuttles will be able to work without people - for the YEARS on the orbit
As for the automate work of it - one of it's targets were destroying enemy (read US) satellites on the orbit (including military satellites)
It had many other targets (/reasons) - non-military mostly
But (as I said above) the corruption in government stopped that program.
A pity

interesting. i wasn't aware that it was an attack craft. that's actually kinda cool. james-bondish.

ah well, where is it now? it's in a warehouse in uzbakistan or something... i can't remember exactly. one of the regions that broke out, with most of the other russian space program equipment, where it sits hopelessly dormant.

last i heard anyways. any plans for russia to try and recover its space equipment?

I'll repeat :

It was launched once for the experiment - the results were incredible !
It should proove that our shuttles will be able to work without people - for the YEARS on the orbit
As for the automate work of it - one of it's targets were destroying enemy (read US) satellites on the orbit (including military satellites)
It had many other targets (/reasons) - non-military mostly
But (as I said above) the corruption in government stopped that program.
A pity

As for the space equipment - we will ! Don't doubt

Btw - Russia is a leader already now in cosmic tourism sphere and launching satellites for different countries

(By the way - DID YOU KNOW, that you (america) are buying russian rocket engines, because they are much better and cheaper than american engines ? Did you know that ? If not - read a little about that, you'll find much interesting things)

Yes, be surprices or not - but it was one of it's aims

kinda like your cosmonauts, eh?

cheap labor.







i'm sorry, i couldn't resist.

Have you retrived all the dead sailors from that antiquated sub that imploded in the ocean yet? What was the name of that piece of shit death trap by the way? I forget. Not that it's important.

No.
Unbeatable quality.
Russian engines on kerosyne producing more power than american engines on cycline (and I am saying official data's)

Have you found all the pieces of dead assholes-astronauts from your space shuttle? What was it's name ? I don't remember.. And it is actually not important - because that was american SHIT.

You're such a pig, ChrisH

i don't know much about russia's current rocket engines, but i do remember back in the day that had a rocket if i remember right that was probably capable of the most space-bound payload around. i think it could carry more than the apollo, but the apollo obviously had better range...

From the Believe Everything You Read on the Internet Department:

LOCKHEED X-22A ANTI-GRAVITY FIGHTER DISC
The Lockheed X-22A antigravity fighter disc fleet, equipped with Neutral Particle Beam directed-energy weapons, and capable of effecting optical as well as radar invisibility, is deployed for worldwide military operations from the new U.S. Space Warfare Headquarters.

HYPERSONIC MISSILE
Standoff Hypersonic Missile An hypersonic air-to-ground missile launched from a hypersonic strike vehicle (System 1.1). It utilizes a scramjet to propel itself at Mach 8 toward the intended high-value target, then glides to target at Mach 4; its flight trajectory is altered as needed via off-board control. Its high-speed air-launched range is 1,450 NM.

Airborne High-Power Microwave Weapon
A pulsed power airborne high power microwave (HPM) system. This medium range weapons system constitutes the primary payload of the host escort defense aircraft. The system generates variable magnitude HPM fields that disrupt or destroy electrical components in the target region. It can engage both air and ground targets.

Space-Based High-energy Laser (HEL) System A multimegawatt high-energy chemical laser constellation that can be used in several modes of operation. In its weapons mode with the laser at high power, it can attack ground, air, and space targets. In its surveillance mode, it can operate using the laser at low power levels for active illumination imaging or with the laser inoperative for passive imaging.

You definitelly wrong about the most capable rocket .
For these days the most powerful rocket in the world is ENERGY (russian rocket, made specially for BURAN project, but it is modified for different aims now)

Your so great the US has to give you money to try to clean up the mess after your Soviet ass's colapsed. LOL

YOU LOST THE COLD WAR ASSHOLE!

Bankrupted by the Trident.... LOL

Gorbachev fell for Regans SDI which at the time was only a dream. Fucking LOSERS!!

At least we have a shuttle progra. How's the Mir these days?

dude, do you know how fucking nasty microwave comm towers (like cell phone and such) are?!! good god! those things can KILL you if you get in their way. there's the dude recently here that accidently had his hand in front of it for like 2 seconds, and he was about 10 feet away from it. _instant_ burns. man, you could turn that into a weapon easy! put it on a tank and disable an entire crowd of people in the blink of an eye. i think people have died from that shit. very, very dangerous job.

Take a look here :

U.S. LAUNCHES HEAVY CARRIER ROCKET DRIVEN BY RUSSIAN ENGINE

A heavy carrier rocket of the Atlas-5 class driven by a Russian RD-180 engine has been launched successfully at the U.S. space center in Cape Canaveral.

Atlas 5 is to place the 3.9-ton European Hot Bird- 6 telecommunication satellite of the Eutelsat company into a geosynchronous orbit. The satellite will ensure TV broadcasts to Europe, the Middle East and North Africa.

The launch is the first one for the new heavy modification of the U.S. launch vehicle capable of carrying into space up to 8.7 tons of equipment.

The Russian engine has been developed and manufactured by the Academician Valentin Glushko Energomash facility Valentin located in the town of Khimki outside Moscow. Energomash had won a tender for the export of its new powerful RD-180 engines for U.S. aerospace facilities, Yuri Korotkov, Energomash press secretary, said earlier. This engine proved better that those built not only in Western Europe but also in the United States.

The carrier rocket has been launched by the International Launch Service company, a joint venture in which the U.S. Lockheed-Martin corporation and two Russian partners - the Khrunichev Center and the Energia Space Rocket Corporation - take part

did you sell it to the chinese yet?

Cold War Losers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We have new project that will be launched soon :)
Our own cosmic-station

So eat shit, cocksmoker :1orglaugh

You are starting to lose the next cold war, assholes :1orglaugh

The whole world is against you :1orglaugh

Let's see what you will be in 2-3 years :Graucho

Broke ass motherfuckers too.

I saw a documentary about your weapons lab. The suits they were wearing had DUCT tape on them. Maybe stupid Bush was right about the duct tape after all.

YOU LOST THE WAR!!!! And now look for hand outs!

i said nothing about the russian rocket's capability. in fact, i said they are strong. but i still believe the apollo rocket had further distance capabilities. the russians have always had good rockets. if they can get the rest of it up to par, then they'd be pretty damn good with the space stuff.

Will you drop that into the ocean after a few years too. LMMFAO

did you hear? we have one too. :thumbsup

is deedal joesixpack? lol

DeeDal whats your point about anything anyway ? You find one or two things that you claim Russia does well and it makes everything American's have done inferior ? That makes no sense.

Yeah but there BROKE!

yeah, and their space program got all sorts of fux0red... the people who fronted it and pushed it are in russia, but all the equipment and launch stations aren't :)


where'd they dig up this space station thing anyways? maybe they're just making an addition to our international space station, i hear it needs an extra solar panel :Graucho

Will you be selling pass's to space to raise money because you are a BROKE nation?

Do they teach Russian's to hate Americans ?

nope, i know several that are happily capitalizing here. and doing very, very well at it.

take off every mig

I said that we are making much more effective equipment, especially if we investing the money into scientific researches.

I will remind you - military budget of Russia is about 50-60 times less than american. So what? Even with this little budget we are making such things that YOU, WILL ALL YOUR MONEY CAN'T BEAT ! :1orglaugh


Glory to Russia :) We will stand up very soon , take a sit and look :)
Drunk asshole Yeltsin is retarded. Fuck him and his corruptional government.

Russians are coming ! :thumbsup

Thats great for you. But why does that mean you have to be anti-american ? I'm not anti-russian, but you're not perfect either and we aren't claiming to be.

There is only one nation which is broke and has no future - americans.
From the beginning america was a dirty pile of shit, consisted from the most bastards from all over the world :)
And I see that remains the same pile of shit, that don't see anything except of their nose.

I thought that was Australia.

right then...


with that i'm going to bed.

Gee, take a look what you do to the world !
Bombing Iraq, Yugoslavia...

You are killing INNOCENT people, that DID NOT DO ANY FUCKING BAD THING TO USA.
So why do you ask now why there are so many anti-american's now ? Are you stupid or something?

WHO (tell me WHO) said to you, or teached you, that every ugly things that you do to the world will be excused ?
That's the main problem for you (yankees). You always think that you are right. That your lifestyle and your principes are the only in the world..
This is STUPIDITY.
Most countries, nations and religions will never live under your principes (principes of consumption and money) - but you will understand that too late

And the village idiot has spoken..
:1orglaugh

America AND Australia

Oh, Russia is innocent. I see.
Raping Chechens, Invading Afghanistan.

Russia needs another Gorbachev? Yeltsin ? Stalin ? Maybe Putin will gas more russians ?

Murdered by Innocent Russia
http://www.salaf.indiaaccess.com/us/...y_russians.htm

More innocent acts by Russia
http://members.lycos.co.uk/islamonri...hechenya1.html

What do you know about the chechens ?
Only some few "sucked from the finger" things that you heared on CNN ?
Whatta stupidity

Do you know that Chechnya was given a total freedom in 1996
They claimed their "president", and were killing people, stealing hostages and trading drugs !

How was that finished for Russia ?

These bastards invaded RUSSIA (in 1998) to Dagestan and killed several THOUSANDS of people !

They decided that the freedom for Chechnya is not enough for them and they decided to put Dagestan into fire.

WHAT SHOULD WE DO THEN?? Sit and wait untill the whole Caucas were in flame and untill they killed all russians and dagestanians in the region ?
(I doubt that USA would sit and wait, when mexicans come and kill thousands of people in Texas... more I can say - americans are killing the people in the countries that did NOTHING to USA. Their blame is only that they have OIL and USA needs it..)

SO WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT CHECHNYA ? Stupid asshole :mad:

The last 2 years chechens are fighting between themselves !
Several month ago bandits (CNN calls them "rebels") exploded the Chechen Government (which consists mostly from chechens) and killed about 80 people.

Ah yeah - very well - they fight for independence this way, huh ?
FUCK OFF !

On the last polls (23 of March) 97 % of chechens voted for being in RUSSIAN FEDERATION and for the constitution and parliament.

THIS IS THEIR CLEAR AND HONEST POINT OF VIEW

So PUT YOUR STUPID ARGUMENTS INTO YOUR ASS:321GFY

This is bandits PROPAGANDA, asshole

If it'd be this way - why do CHECHEN THEMSELVES support Russia in it's fight with chechen bandits ?

Whatta ignorant fool ..:Kissmy

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/3...utin_ap150.jpg
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/2365383.stm

http://newswww.bbc.net.uk/2/hi/europe/2366917.stm



Did you see a CNN link in any of the pretty pictures of Innocent Russia ?

No.

All images were faked ? Those bodies and evidence don't really exist ? Is that what you're saying ?

Ok, so this moron gets slammed by serge the other night and today decides he has to be a different person because his ass is still sore.....

Poor russian....

Chechen bandits do not refuse to kill chechens who do not agree with them. Chechens do not refuse to bomb and shoot their own villages (and then say that this is done by russian forces)

WE DO NOT HATE CHECHENS . We are MULTINATIONAL country (more than 140 nations are living in Russia). So WHY SHOULD WE KILL PEACEFUL CHECHENS just because of their nation??
Every russian (or most of them) have different nations in the past of his native-tree. Russians, chechens, tatars, ukrainians, udmurts and so on and on.

WE ARE MULTINATIONAL and WE ARE FIGHTING ONLY WITH BANDITS.
SO what you see on the pictures - murdered by bandits hands.

I can give you another example (seen an interview with 14yo-chechen girl in hospital.)
Bandits asked her to bring a package to MILITIA building. She took it an entered to the Militia (your POLICE analog) - there was the time-bomb in the package - occasionally it has not exploaded - only the detonator - so she was injuried but did not die.
This is the way they are fighting with their own nation

That's why most of the chechens support russian side , and never bandits.