PaySites Have To Change Before It's Too Late. Here Are Some Ideas...
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$10 is no longer profitable unless the content is free for the site owner. Shooting 10 scenes, worth signing up for, will cost between $2,000 solo to $20,000 BG. Yes I know people will churn out garbage for less
At $10 a sign-up, taking all the other expenses traffic, servers, equipment, etc. That means the site has to sign up 400 to 4,000. For every 10 videos.
Back in the boom days, 95% of the industry was buying exclusive cheap crap because that's all they could afford. Of the remaining 5% a lot of them were started by people with an in-house content producer.Comment
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Oh how I enjoy posting this.
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So tell us what it means. 1 click to what? Having fancy names for a process doesn't make it work.
Why would a Tube site pay the producer 50% when they can force the producer to allow them to put it into a members area as part of the deal to display the clips on the free side?The big tubes should have one-click processing, if a viewer wants to buy the full scene in the highest quality format the producer makes available he pays $3.99 or whatever price the producer chooses. If the viewer is a big fan of the producer's work he can pay a monthly recurring fee to get all updates, $9.99/14.99/19.99 whatever the producer chooses - producer gets 50% and paid out by the tube site.
Wouldn't the producer be better off getting the fan to his own site?
As I said, $10 is good if the content is free and Tubes can make it so by binding producers to a contract.Comment
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Figured so, carry on!!
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How much more content needs to be produced? We are not talking about a finite consumable story-based product which leaves the viewer wanting to know what happens next. The average viewer needs a few minutes of visual stimulation and then moves on with their lives.
I think the oversaturation of content caused by the industry converting content production into a commodity is as much to blame as tube sites.Comment
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What I love about your post is how it demonstrates how even smart people (like you Shap) can have kooky buying habits.Price point is key. I've become used to Netflix at <$10 a month. That price point is a no brainer for me and I don't mind going 2 or 3 months without using it (as I just did these past 3 months). Once it goes over $10 (esp towards $19) I'd have to be using it regularly for me to justify keeping it. As a family we don't use it enough so I'd cancel.
Apps are the same. I rarely will pay for an app. I have to be super motivated and interested in the app or it's a lego kids game that I know my boys will love. Besides that I'm not keen on spending $$ for an app. Why? Because the app environment has taught me what is worth spending and what isn't. There are apps that I used to buy as software and pay $50, $100 or $200 for. But in the app environment they are now worth <10 and usually <5.
Music I'll buy from itunes store without every researching an alternative. It's just how I buy music.
I never buy movies.
Tv Shows I'll research when they'll be on cable. If I really can't get it within let's say a month I'll then go to itunes and buy it. If Itunes and Amazon do a geo block and try to stop me from seeing it for 6 months time (ie like they did with Ballers) then fuck them I'll download illegally. If I'm buying on itunes to watch on apple tv i'll buy HD version but if I'm going to watch on my ipad i'll buy SD version.
Just to give you insight into my buying decisions.
If you pay $9.99 and do not even use Netflix but once every 3 months then guess what? You're paying $29.95 for Netflix. LOL The magic price point! 
But again, companies can only afford to charge $10 if they are massive. Think Wal-Mart.
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I know you don't believe this but I don't have an agenda here. Just having a conversation about it. It may surprise you but I'm not the selfish manipulating bastard you have me pegged as. If anything I'm the complete opposite. I started the thread as a brainstorm to see where it goes. No secret plans behind it.Comment
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That's not true. I never have and never will pay for porn. No amount of convincing will change that. I'll consume it for free but the second it's not free I won't consume it.100 posts of why paysites won't change.
Nobody regularly consumes porn to pass the time. They're all potential buyers.
The excuse of them never being customers, never made sense. Now we know that people downloading or viewing porn are potential customers we converted into freeloaders.Comment
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This is one case where those who get it get it. I saw exactly what mutt meant immediately. Makes sense. We've always limited our thinking to the idea we have to charge for our content on our website instead of other ways to charge for it ie on the tube itself.Comment
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Drop me a line, people are on this already in a way.
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Well, the issue has always been on the tube side. It's their website after all so doing a one-click upsell means splitting revenue (equally?) and, until recently, this has been resisted. But as the industry changes I think more tubes will be open to this.
Personally, I think tubes should act like cable providers do now. In other words, strike partnership deals with trusted paysites to not only do what Mutt suggests but also help with production costs. Paysite owners would need to adjust their thinking in terms of margins and costs but I think this is the future for some companies. Does Mind Geek do one click upsells for Fake Taxi? They should.
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I'll throw one at you with regard to monetization;
What about a Porn Tube site with micropayments to content producers or providers?
what if; Each time a full length vid is viewed in HD quality $0.20 is deducted from the tube member's wallet and 50/60///90% is sent to the member/seller providing that content's wallet -- the seller cashes out like an affiliate $50-$100 minimum ....Comment
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a la XVideos or Pornhub Premium?I'll throw one at you with regard to monetization;
What about a Porn Tube site with micropayments to content producers or providers?
what if; Each time a full length vid is viewed in HD quality $0.20 is deducted from the tube member's wallet and 50/60///90% is sent to the member/seller providing that content's wallet -- the seller cashes out like an affiliate $50-$100 minimum ....My Affiliate Programs:
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