PaySites Have To Change Before It's Too Late. Here Are Some Ideas...

One thing to consider is Sex Factor: Porn Reality Show Episodes, TV Series of Explicit Contest

They are doing it for free.

How they make money I am not sure.

youtube search "full movies" = 67,5 million results

fucks given by youtube= 0

From Grandma's Boy:
"You can't whack it to Internet porn like everyone else?"
"You know I don't have a credit card."

Why can't more people be like that? And if there are people like that, how do I target them?..

This is completely unfair - Tube sites do not have to produce the content. Tube sites have more variety because they either take everyone's content or paysites give them their content. The most difficult part about creating a paysite / affiliate program is producing content, and that's not even an issue for Tube sites.

The answer you might be looking for is what I call "information". Our industry used to be based on traffic - You send a paysite traffic and you get sign ups. Now it's about information - you want the customer's verified email address so you can sell them your site and then sell them everything else under the sun.

I run YNOT Mail and also work in the dating industry. One of the things some of my dating affilaites have started doing is collecting the information themselves. Why send a surfer to a dating site and walk away from them when you can collect their information, send them to a dating site... And then two weeks later send them to a different dating site, and then a different dating site, and so on...

It shouldn't be any different with pay sites. If you have a big boob site, once you have their email address, you know what their average retention is.... When they hit that point send them to another site - maybe in your own program, or in another program. And then every two - three weeks mail them another site. This should be AUTOMATIC - When someone signs up for your site or even just your email list, you send to them every week or every other week.

All of the program owners should get together and do this too - When a customer signs up for program "A" they should get an email two weeks later sending them to program "B". Program "B" does the same. Add in ten programs and you are all making money. If someone doesn't convert with one program, they will eventually convert with another program.

Enjoyed reading, nice work Shap!!

I need some help formatting my emails with YNOT. Maybe we can chat next week and I can get some help on spam filters and formatting?

There are some great ideas in this thread but still I come to the conclusion that everything has been tried, or is being done now. Barring any new technology the job now, I feel, is marketing. HOW are you going to sell Memberships?

So today I think, in 2016, paysites need to play up these points on their Tours and point of purchase:

* Convenience. Why go anywhere else? Inside you will see more porn than you can watch in a lifetime. (Have limited content or niche content? Add feeds with vast libraries of all kinds of porn.)

* Safety. No viruses, no worms, no nasty bits of code that will fuck up your computer or phone.

* Privacy. Do you really want to be surfing around on public PORN sites in this age of identity theft, credit card hacks and social media blackmail? Stay here, we protect your privacy.

* Respect. Didn't your mama teach you it's not right to take something for free? Support your local pornographer or he will go out of business. (Sounds hokey but it works.)

* Technology. As you and your devices change so will we. We will always deliver to you what you want, how you want it and in a way that's easiest for you to enjoy. (Make sure your shit looks good on all devices.)

* Health. Ease your mind, relieve yourself of the stress of always searching, searching to satisfy your needs. Come here and feel happy again!

Shit like that. See what I mean? Selling ice to eskimos (marketing).

Lastly, instead of trying to squeeze 10% more out of the cow just get yourself some more cows.

Maybe, The Internet of Things will save you -- The Internet reactive Bluetooth Pocket Pussy -- will your videos interact?

Sell the sizzle and not the steak

Doesn`t Blacked.com beat them?

Ads on those videos. Probably they have a deal where they get a % of the pop ups etc

I'd say it's a marketing thingy where they eat the cost and try to make people stick to their site etc.

We did it with FreeOnes at the consumer shows back in the days, big booths which would cost a small fortune but was completely focused on the branding and making people aware of us.

Sex Factor is owned by a tube... they can produce it at a loss. It's all pr value.

21 Thumbs Up. - I almost always get the feeling that Shaps threads are just about that. A fishing trip for MG and buddies.

As usual, excellent post.

Anyone can download or stream any hollywood movie for free, yet hollywood movies still make millions of dollars.

Same with TV shows, yet paid streaming services like NetFlix have millions of paying subscribers.

It is no different in porn. You can get anything you want for free, but still people spend millions on paysites.

The thing is that all the money now goes to the big boys, so the 'affiliates' and small programs see business is dying because they stopped making money, but there are more people watching porn than ever. You just have to know how to convert them to paying users. Big companies, media buyers and traffic networks took over from affiliates. The money is still there, it just goes to different people than it did 10 years ago where an affiliate could make a gallery and make money. Times change, get with the program.