Epoch discontinues affiliate program? - GoFuckYourself.com

Screwed Up · 07-05-2016, 03:25 PM

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Dear,

We are contacting you as an active affiliate in EpochStats for one or more Epoch processed Sponsor Programs. It is important that you read the following regarding payouts made by Epoch.

Effective September 16, 2016, Epoch will discontinue paying affiliates by check and/or wire. The last scheduled payout is for the period of August 27 to September 2, 2016.

Be aware that all sales will continue to be tracked normally and commissions will continue to be credited to your affiliate IDs. However, all proceeds after September 3rd will be paid directly to your sponsor. We suggest that you contact your sponsor's affiliate manager to update your method of payment.

If you use EpochStats to track your sales, it will continue to be available for at least one year when the program will be reassessed and possibly discontinued. We want to provide this ample time for you to make other tracking arrangements.

I'm kind of shocked!

But not really. I guess ccbill won the "war" over small-ish affiliate programs.

Bladewire · 07-05-2016, 03:29 PM

So sponsors will start paying you instead of Epoch and after a year no Epoch sponsor stats at all?

femdomdestiny · 07-05-2016, 04:10 PM

I've just got email and couldn't believe what I am reading. Well fuck it anyway, in my niche, there were almost no sites who were using them. Hopefully they will move to Verotel because they are reliable and are missing good sites for promotion.

wehateporn · 07-05-2016, 04:14 PM

This is very sad, I'm a big fan of Epoch

NatalieK · 07-05-2016, 04:15 PM

all epoch sales & programs?

wtf?

popcorn, i'm sitting here, to hear, wat b gowing on

BigFurry · 07-05-2016, 04:22 PM

I liked the merged payments, but the they are really lacking in the stats department, and they don't even have a proper payment history.

I'll be happy if those programs move to CCBILL or set up NATS.

yuu.design · 07-05-2016, 04:40 PM

wow, sad news for lots of guys :S

Forkbeard · 07-05-2016, 05:59 PM

I had a dozen programs on the list they sent me. Maybe two of them are still active and putting up new content; the others are all on autopilot if not actually dead. No way those programs are going to get reorganized on CCBill or set up their own payment systems. They will just pocket the checks for residual sales and get on with life. I'm gonna have to pull a ton of ancient links. Luckily it's not a lot of revenue.

SBJ · 07-05-2016, 06:53 PM

wow this is big news and it doesn't really make sense so I'll keep my eye on this thread. I don't promote any epoch sites but a lot of the programs i promote use epoch in cascade with ccbill.

So would I still get paid via ccbill if the sale was made via epoch as a affiliate?

DVTimes · 07-05-2016, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions

all epoch sales & programs?

wtf?

popcorn, i'm sitting here, to hear, wat b gowing on

You lost your account with them years ago Gary due to your rape content.

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Just to Clarify the whole subject, Epoch does not tolerate anything that has to do with rape. Any kind of hint or suggestion of rape is absolutely against our operating procedures.

Bladewire · 07-05-2016, 07:01 PM

I'm pencilled as to why Epoch didn't make a proactive thread here answering the basic questions they know would be asked.

lagwagon · 07-05-2016, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SBJ

wow this is big news and it doesn't really make sense so I'll keep my eye on this thread. I don't promote any epoch sites but a lot of the programs i promote use epoch in cascade with ccbill.

So would I still get paid via ccbill if the sale was made via epoch as a affiliate?

As far as I understand it this is correct, basically the same way it has always been.

pornmasta · 07-05-2016, 07:31 PM

bye bye payment, for 3/4 of the sponsors

ilnjscb · 07-05-2016, 07:34 PM

Does that mean no more paypal?

EddyTheDog · 07-05-2016, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DVTimes

You lost your account with them years ago Gary due to your rape content.

Can you prove any of that? - Can you PROVE this is Gary and the other accusation? - I'm going to kick up if you can't...

EddyTheDog · 07-05-2016, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by pornmasta

bye bye payment, for 3/4 of the sponsors

Unless I am missing something very few people used the affiliate system...

fuzebox · 07-05-2016, 10:03 PM

People, they are talking about specifically the EpochSTATS system (very similar to a ccbill program, where epoch pays your affiliates for you). It wasn't very popular or widely used, and will not affect NATS programs using Epoch or ccbill programs with epoch in their cascade.

Roald · 07-05-2016, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

I'm pencilled as to why Epoch didn't make a proactive thread here answering the basic questions they know would be asked.

But then again this was announced a while ago already and this is not their support form

Konda · 07-05-2016, 11:33 PM

I don't think this will affect many people, I can't think of any active program that is on EpochStats. That's probably also the reason why they are discontinuing it.

Paul Markham · 07-05-2016, 11:41 PM

Bad news from Epoch. Another sign the porn industry is declining.

SBJ · 07-05-2016, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Bad news from Epoch. Another sign the porn industry is declining.

god you are old and stupid.. did you forget how to read or is everything about the decline of porn for you?? If you read the posts in this thread you would see epoch is not going anywhere anytime soon. They are just shutting down something that is never used.

JasonCollins · 07-06-2016, 01:17 AM

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We recently just launched one-click sales for VOD and cam sites to help increase conversions. This feature is available via our FlexPay API and can be configured for your loyal members or for your entire member base.

We are also integrated with NATS and have our own affiliate tracking + payouts. With some new features coming soon!

adamneve · 07-06-2016, 03:44 AM

like someone said above, this has been announced a while ago. We let our epoch affiliates know and asked them to join MetArtMoney and get paid through their.

Phoenix · 07-06-2016, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

People, they are talking about specifically the EpochSTATS system (very similar to a ccbill program, where epoch pays your affiliates for you). It wasn't very popular or widely used, and will not affect NATS programs using Epoch or ccbill programs with epoch in their cascade.

Please take your advanced reading and comprehension skills and see yourself out.

adultmobile · 07-06-2016, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by JasonCollins

I can make a very interesting offer here for many of you

Neighbor · 07-06-2016, 06:49 AM

NATS is here and aware of the recent information. Any programs that may be using EpochStats and are thinking about moving over to NATS, please contact me directly. We have some great promotions going this month you can take advantage of for the transition.

Struggle4Bucks · 07-06-2016, 08:31 AM

Oh really Epoch... Would it be an idea to inform your Merchants TOO about this? WTF???
Do I have to read this on a fucking board???

Mickey_ · 07-06-2016, 09:20 AM

6 out of 10 GFYers misinterpret the email that was quoted...

...and not because its contents are unclear.

plaster · 07-06-2016, 09:37 AM

There is really no reason to understand. Understanding is for nerds and no place for adult webmasters and program owners.

rayadp05 · 07-06-2016, 02:47 PM

This is why I have stuck with CCBill for over 10 years for my processing. Always been very happy with them and so are my affiliates. I just don't trust many other processors.

Struggle4Bucks · 07-06-2016, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by rayadp05

This is why I have stuck with CCBill for over 10 years for my processing. Always been very happy with them and so are my affiliates. I just don't trust many other processors.

Your pageload for ccbill stats is stuck now for 10 years?
They still didn't fix that?

Forkbeard · 07-11-2016, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks

Oh really Epoch... Would it be an idea to inform your Merchants TOO about this? WTF???
Do I have to read this on a fucking board???

Seriously they didn't email you? You're one of the dozen sponsors in my EpochStats account (no real recent sales, but a sweet lifetime ratio of 1:309) and they emailed me on July 5. Now I wonder if they bothered to tell any of the other programs I promote or have promoted through Epoch?

I was wondering if program owners were being provided with a database of their affiliates and contact/payment information so they could at least in theory make the payments and/or set up a replacement affiliate program. Sounds like that must be a big "nope".

Struggle4Bucks · 07-11-2016, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Forkbeard

Seriously they didn't email you? You're one of the dozen sponsors in my EpochStats account (no real recent sales, but a sweet lifetime ratio of 1:309) and they emailed me on July 5. Now I wonder if they bothered to tell any of the other programs I promote or have promoted through Epoch?

I was wondering if program owners were being provided with a database of their affiliates and contact/payment information so they could at least in theory make the payments and/or set up a replacement affiliate program. Sounds like that must be a big "nope".

Well... I contacted Epoch and they said they d send me an email... I checked, double checked; even my spamfolder but there was no email... It was send to me (again) so i'm informed now

1:309

Contact info is available but i think payment details must be asked directly by program owner to affilliate... My quess is that Epoch won't transfer these personal informations to us... that could be a legal thingy...

newxxx · 07-12-2016, 03:30 PM

Epoch's decision will kill many small (but still profitable!) affiliate programs. Many rebills and payouts (webmaster's money!) will be lost. Tons of links have to be updated (more summer work for all!).

Thank god we don't use Epoch at least for processing!

CCBill and Verotel, please DON'T ACT LIKE EPOCH or you'll loose your turnover for sure!

Relic · 07-12-2016, 11:34 PM

Go fuck your self

JasonCollins · 07-13-2016, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by newxxx

Epoch's decision will kill many small (but still profitable!) affiliate programs. Many rebills and payouts (webmaster's money!) will be lost. Tons of links have to be updated (more summer work for all!).

Thank god we don't use Epoch at least for processing!

CCBill and Verotel, please DON'T ACT LIKE EPOCH or you'll loose your turnover for sure!

We have no plans for dumping our affiliate program. In fact, we have new features coming soon!

marlboroack · 07-13-2016, 12:45 AM

Why tho?

femdomdestiny · 07-13-2016, 01:06 AM

As affiliate, I was always ignoring sites processed by epoch. Now it seems like a good decision. CCbill or Verotel if program want affiliates to promote it.

Struggle4Bucks · 07-15-2016, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by femdomdestiny

As affiliate, I was always ignoring sites processed by epoch. Now it seems like a good decision.

Because most affiliates made this "good decision", Epoch has no reason to continue a non-used service... Don't mix up the chicken and egg story... it's an Affiliate Fulfilling Prophecy

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Originally Posted by femdomdestiny

Verotel if program want affiliates to promote it.

I get it from an affiliate perspective to not promote Epoch-sites (not so many sites to promote, few hits to send, minimum payment). But then I also don't see a reason for affiliates to promote Verotel sites...

beks001 · 07-16-2016, 06:57 AM

Let's talk action items now. What's the process now for those paying via epoch check. What should be done to properly get paid as an affiliate? I get checks on the regular now where does that leave me?

wehateporn · 07-16-2016, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by newxxx

Epoch's decision will kill many small (but still profitable!) affiliate programs. Many rebills and payouts (webmaster's money!) will be lost. Tons of links have to be updated (more summer work for all!).

Thank god we don't use Epoch at least for processing!

CCBill and Verotel, please DON'T ACT LIKE EPOCH or you'll loose your turnover for sure!

My understanding is that the links stay the same, it is just Epoch don't pay the affiliates, they will pay sponsors, then the sponsor will pay the affiliates, so no need for anyone to go out of business

CHMOD · 07-16-2016, 08:57 AM

Easy solution :
Switch to Sliiing to track your affiliate sales. Let us pay your affiliates for you.

Bladewire · 07-16-2016, 09:17 AM

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Forkbeard · 07-17-2016, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn

My understanding is that the links stay the same, it is just Epoch don't pay the affiliates, they will pay sponsors, then the sponsor will pay the affiliates, so no need for anyone to go out of business

LOL -- it looks like the reality is Epoch just forwards the money and washes their hands of it. Some of these sponsors have never run their own affiliate programs, they have no systems in place to pay affiliates, and they don't even get the payment information that Epoch has. How many of these sponsors are going to make the extraordinary effort to start making affiilate payments, versus how many are just going to pocket the checks?

I don't know where this misplaced confidence that "then the sponsor will pay the affiliates" comes from.

CHMOD · 07-23-2016, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks

Because most affiliates made this "good decision", Epoch has no reason to continue a non-used service... Don't mix up the chicken and egg story... it's an Affiliate Fulfilling Prophecy

I have sent you an Email after you called me yesterday. I am not sure if you received it. Just wanted to let you know that it has been confirmed again : the setup that I told you about would work perfectly

druid66 · 02-28-2017, 02:43 AM

guys i've just discovered i have $350 on epoch generated through two signups on one sponsor years ago.
is that money lost now?
cuz since epoch doesn't send wire or check, how can i get it is it possible?

BigFurry · 02-28-2017, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by druid66

guys i've just discovered i have $350 on epoch generated through two signups on one sponsor years ago.
is that money lost now?
cuz since epoch doesn't send wire or check, how can i get it is it possible?

If it was earned years ago, it was supposed to be paid out by Epoch. You should contact them, make sure to mention that it's past earnings from EpochStats.

I think they still might pay you. It's just that they don't want to handle paying all the affiliates anymore.

druid66 · 02-28-2017, 04:48 AM

after careful checking i've noticed they actually send me money half year ago. since i'm not checking this one bank account i didn't noticed. however it's around half cash they owe me, i've send email to their accounting support, let's see what they say.

thank you.

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femdomdestiny Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,176	I've just got email and couldn't believe what I am reading. Well fuck it anyway, in my niche, there were almost no sites who were using them. Hopefully they will move to Verotel because they are reliable and are missing good sites for promotion. __________________ Femdom Destiny -------------------------------------------- ICQ: 463-630-426 email: webmaster(at)femdomdestiny.com

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07-05-2016, 04:22 PM	#6
BigFurry Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,571	I liked the merged payments, but the they are really lacking in the stats department, and they don't even have a proper payment history. I'll be happy if those programs move to CCBILL or set up NATS.

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SBJ So Fucking Fabulous Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 11,375	wow this is big news and it doesn't really make sense so I'll keep my eye on this thread. I don't promote any epoch sites but a lot of the programs i promote use epoch in cascade with ccbill. So would I still get paid via ccbill if the sale was made via epoch as a affiliate? __________________ Chaturbate - Make tons of money from Cams! *Name Silo - Domains under $9 and free ID protect*

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Bladewire StraightBro Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Monarch Beach, CA USA Posts: 56,229	I'm pencilled as to why Epoch didn't make a proactive thread here answering the basic questions they know would be asked.

07-05-2016, 07:31 PM	#13
pornmasta Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 19,282	bye bye payment, for 3/4 of the sponsors

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fuzebox making it rain Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 22,141	People, they are talking about specifically the EpochSTATS system (very similar to a ccbill program, where epoch pays your affiliates for you). It wasn't very popular or widely used, and will not affect NATS programs using Epoch or ccbill programs with epoch in their cascade.

07-05-2016, 11:33 PM	#19
Konda ... Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,280	I don't think this will affect many people, I can't think of any active program that is on EpochStats. That's probably also the reason why they are discontinuing it.

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07-06-2016, 03:44 AM	#23
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Neighbor Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,511	NATS is here and aware of the recent information. Any programs that may be using EpochStats and are thinking about moving over to NATS, please contact me directly. We have some great promotions going this month you can take advantage of for the transition.

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02-28-2017, 02:43 AM	#46
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02-28-2017, 04:48 AM	#48
druid66 Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 994	after careful checking i've noticed they actually send me money half year ago. since i'm not checking this one bank account i didn't noticed. however it's around half cash they owe me, i've send email to their accounting support, let's see what they say. thank you. __________________ Pure Japan japanese babes blog