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  • crockett
    in a van by the river
    • May 2003
    • 76818
    #1

    Stormy's lawyer says Trump will not finish his term (Cohen payments related)

    Stormy's lawyer tweeted that Trump wont finish his full term and his assertion is due to payments to Cohen by the Russians via Columbus Nova. Considering its because of Stormy's case that all the Cohen payments leaked out, its pretty likely he knows what he's talking about because he was the guy that got all the dirt on Cohen in tne 1st place..


    "There’s a reason why Columbus Nova’s story keeps changing by the day and there’s a reason why they are covering-up. The truth is not pretty...but it is necessary. Mr. Trump will not serve out his term,” Avenatti said on Saturday.


    Michael Avenatti: Company That Paid Michael Cohen Has Something To Hide, Trump Won't Finish Term


    Its why Trump is pushing the spygate BS because he knows impeachment proceedings are coming so he's trying to split public opinion and call it a witch hunt..

    If Trump cared about this country or had a ounce of dignity or honor, he'd resign and not put the country trough this shit show for his pathetic ego.
    In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.
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    • crockett
      in a van by the river
      • May 2003
      • 76818
      #2
      Oh, for extra special fun.. it was outted today that Spain's intellengance agency had wiretaps on the same Russian involved with Nova due to money laundering. The wiretap recordings and transcripts were turned over to the FBI and the head Spanish investigator says "Trump jr should be concerned"

      Sounds like they have recordings with Trump jr..


      Spanish police give FBI wiretaps of Putin ally Alexander Torshin, who met with Trump Jr. - Business Insider


      When José Grinda, a Spanish prosecutor who spearheads investigations into organized crime, was asked if he was concerned about Torshin's interactions with Trump Jr. or other American political figures, Grinda replied: "Mr. Trump's son should be concerned."

      For the record if the recordings had nothing to do with Trump or the election, they wouldnt be handing them over to the Muller investigation.
      In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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        • Rochard
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          • Dec 2001
          • 75770
          #3
          Originally posted by crockett
          Oh, for extra special fun.. it was outted today that Spain's intellengance agency had wiretaps on the same Russian involved with Nova due to money laundering. The wiretap recordings and transcripts were turned over to the FBI and the head Spanish investigator says "Trump jr should be concerned"

          Sounds like they have recordings with Trump jr..


          Spanish police give FBI wiretaps of Putin ally Alexander Torshin, who met with Trump Jr. - Business Insider


          When José Grinda, a Spanish prosecutor who spearheads investigations into organized crime, was asked if he was concerned about Torshin's interactions with Trump Jr. or other American political figures, Grinda replied: "Mr. Trump's son should be concerned."

          For the record if the recordings had nothing to do with Trump or the election, they wouldnt be handing them over to the Muller investigation.
          This is most interesting.

          What the Trump family doesn't seem to understand is that our intelligence services have access to information outside of the US - such as this wiretap tape from Spain and what the Russian ambassador was reporting back to Moscow.... All of this will come out eventually.
          Herschel Savage
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            • GAMEFINEST
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              • Nov 2006
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                • 2MuchMark
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                    • celandina
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                      • Jun 2006
                      • 11803
                      #6
                      I thought he and Stormy already used their 15 minutes of fame ??

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                        • dyna mo
                          just a fucking jerk
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 68431
                          #7
                          i don't like that guy. he's a slimy ambulance chaser. He's a jackass in interviews also.

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                            • OneHungLo
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • May 2001
                              • 40902
                              #8
                              Originally posted by crockett
                              Stormy's lawyer tweeted that Trump wont finish his full term and his assertion is due to payments to Cohen by the Russians via Columbus Nova. Considering its because of Stormy's case that all the Cohen payments leaked out, its pretty likely he knows what he's talking about because he was the guy that got all the dirt on Cohen in tne 1st place..


                              "There’s a reason why Columbus Nova’s story keeps changing by the day and there’s a reason why they are covering-up. The truth is not pretty...but it is necessary. Mr. Trump will not serve out his term,” Avenatti said on Saturday.


                              Michael Avenatti: Company That Paid Michael Cohen Has Something To Hide, Trump Won't Finish Term


                              Its why Trump is pushing the spygate BS because he knows impeachment proceedings are coming so he's trying to split public opinion and call it a witch hunt..

                              If Trump cared about this country or had a ounce of dignity or honor, he'd resign and not put the country trough this shit show for his pathetic ego.
                              You actually listen to anything Michael Avenatti has to say? C'mon man. You know damn well Trump is going to serve out his full 8 years.

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                                • crockett
                                  in a van by the river
                                  • May 2003
                                  • 76818
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by celandina
                                  I thought he and Stormy already used their 15 minutes of fame ??
                                  Their lawsuit is why we found out about the Cohen payments. Granted it's likely Muller already knew of them, but it made it to the public view due to Stormy's lawyer forcing Cohen to give them his financial records. When that happened they got access to proof that trump paid Cohen and of course could prove Stormy was paid, but also in those records were all these other payments going to Cohen since Trump became POTUS..

                                  Basically Stormy's lawyer blew the whole Cohen payments for access to Trump out in the open.. Again I'm sure Muller knew this shit already, but he never leaks anything and who knows if we would have ever found out if Republicans were able to try and bury it. Now it's all out in the open and they can't hide the corruption.

                                  You can damn sure bet that Trump being the greedy fuck he is, he sure as hell wasn't just letting Cohen take money for access to Trump, with out Trump getting his cut.. This issue alone is direct bribery and will take Trump down..

                                  Collusion, money laundering, constant lies and disrespect of the office and the people's trust.. there is pretty much at least a dozen reasons Trump can legitimately be impeached and any other POTUS already would have been if not for useless Republicans in Congress. The only reason he's still here is because his Republican enablers (aka traitors to this country) refuse to do anything. That will all change come the mid terms..

                                  Even if Democrats don't win back both the House & Senate they will take enough seats that Republicans will be forced kicking and screaming into impeachment proceedings.
                                  In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                    • Bladewire
                                      StraightBro
                                      • Aug 2003
                                      • 56220
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by OneHungLo
                                      You actually listen to anything Michael Avenatti has to say? C'mon man. You know damn well Trump is going to serve out his full 8 years.
                                      Why would you want someone corrupt as the American president?


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                                        • crockett
                                          in a van by the river
                                          • May 2003
                                          • 76818
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by Bladewire
                                          Why would you want someone corrupt as the American president?
                                          He's a team player man.. He don't care about out Constitution or our laws. Just if his guy is in charge.. You are looking at the mindset that let Hitler do what he did. These people are disgusting example of the worst among us..
                                          In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                            • The Porn Nerd
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                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by MrBottomTooth
                                              She's coming to a strip bar here next month. $35 a ticket. I'd like to go get a picture with her but I have a thing about going to a strip bar on a Wednesday. She's obviously milking this for all it's worth.
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                                                • Acepimp
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                                                  #13
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                                                    • beerptrol
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                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                      • 12722
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by Acepimp
                                                      Lots of gullible morons on this board.....

                                                      Says the king of the gullible morons,

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                                                        • k0nr4d
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Aug 2006
                                                          • 9231
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by celandina
                                                          I thought he and Stormy already used their 15 minutes of fame ??
                                                          They're desperately trying to stretch it out to 20
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                                                            • Grapesoda
                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                              • Jul 2003
                                                              • 46234
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by crockett
                                                              Stormy's lawyer tweeted that Trump wont finish his full term and his assertion is due to payments to Cohen by the Russians via Columbus Nova. Considering its because of Stormy's case that all the Cohen payments leaked out, its pretty likely he knows what he's talking about because he was the guy that got all the dirt on Cohen in tne 1st place..


                                                              "There’s a reason why Columbus Nova’s story keeps changing by the day and there’s a reason why they are covering-up. The truth is not pretty...but it is necessary. Mr. Trump will not serve out his term,” Avenatti said on Saturday.


                                                              Michael Avenatti: Company That Paid Michael Cohen Has Something To Hide, Trump Won't Finish Term


                                                              Its why Trump is pushing the spygate BS because he knows impeachment proceedings are coming so he's trying to split public opinion and call it a witch hunt..

                                                              If Trump cared about this country or had a ounce of dignity or honor, he'd resign and not put the country trough this shit show for his pathetic ego.
                                                              bro when I read the other day that the law firm representing stormy had a 10 mil judgment against them in a bankruptcy.

                                                              that cleared up any mystery about WTF is going on with that bullshit....

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                                                                • Grapesoda
                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                  • 46234
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by k0nr4d
                                                                  They're desperately trying to stretch it out to 20
                                                                  it's all about 'joins'

                                                                  it's is a shame that the 'free and IMPARTIAL press' chooses to side with an escort and shyster to attack the government.

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                                                                    • beerptrol
                                                                      Confirmed Asshole
                                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                                      • 12722
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by Grapesoda
                                                                      it's all about 'joins'

                                                                      it's is a shame that the 'free and IMPARTIAL press' chooses to side with an escort and shyster to attack the government.
                                                                      lol that's some funny shit right there. Where as you choose to side with a corrupt conman who is attacking and destroying the DOJ, the government, and America's freedoms! But do go on about the press!!

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                                                                        • celandina
                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                          • Jun 2006
                                                                          • 11803
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by crockett
                                                                          Their lawsuit is why we found out about the Cohen payments. Granted it's likely Muller already knew of them, but it made it to the public view due to Stormy's lawyer forcing Cohen to give them his financial records. When that happened they got access to proof that trump paid Cohen and of course could prove Stormy was paid, but also in those records were all these other payments going to Cohen since Trump became POTUS..

                                                                          Basically Stormy's lawyer blew the whole Cohen payments for access to Trump out in the open.. Again I'm sure Muller knew this shit already, but he never leaks anything and who knows if we would have ever found out if Republicans were able to try and bury it. Now it's all out in the open and they can't hide the corruption.

                                                                          You can damn sure bet that Trump being the greedy fuck he is, he sure as hell wasn't just letting Cohen take money for access to Trump, with out Trump getting his cut.. This issue alone is direct bribery and will take Trump down..

                                                                          Collusion, money laundering, constant lies and disrespect of the office and the people's trust.. there is pretty much at least a dozen reasons Trump can legitimately be impeached and any other POTUS already would have been if not for useless Republicans in Congress. The only reason he's still here is because his Republican enablers (aka traitors to this country) refuse to do anything. That will all change come the mid terms..

                                                                          Even if Democrats don't win back both the House & Senate they will take enough seats that Republicans will be forced kicking and screaming into impeachment proceedings.
                                                                          He paid off a hooker thru his "agent" , so what !? this was done many times before.Cohen, Muller and the rest of the "jokers" on the side lines are just getting caught in the "wash". This whole thing is so ridiculous it is not even funny any more.

                                                                          And do not get me wrong it is not about Trump or Bill Clinton (to cheap to pay off Monica) or Harvey paying off some Italian starlet who hunted suggar daddies, or JFK..... all these were just plain business transactions, simple as that.

                                                                          BTW: I know Trump is an idiot, but after all he paid for his own camaign,so what if he took the 130 K from there, it was his own money...nothing wrong here except that he is lying about it.

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                                                                            • dyna mo
                                                                              just a fucking jerk
                                                                              • Dec 2008
                                                                              • 68431
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by Grapesoda
                                                                              it's all about 'joins'

                                                                              it's is a shame that the 'free and IMPARTIAL press' chooses to side with an escort and shyster to attack the government.
                                                                              how did you find out about the $10m judgement against avenatti? yup, the press.

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                                                                                • bronco67
                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                  • Dec 2006
                                                                                  • 29026
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                                  i don't like that guy. he's a slimy ambulance chaser. He's a jackass in interviews also.
                                                                                  The man has his shit together. Probably more than any lawyer Trump can hire. But he needs to reel it in a little and not be so arrogant on TV. He's going to slip up eventually.

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                                                                                    • Grapesoda
                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                                                      • 46234
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by beerptrol
                                                                                      lol that's some funny shit right there. Where as you choose to side with a corrupt conman who is attacking and destroying the DOJ, the government, and America's freedoms! But do go on about the press!!
                                                                                      that's your opinion guy... every asshole has an opinion... . the REALITY IS trump is POTUS of the USA and you are an asshole with an opinion on an internet troll forum... that clear up the mystery for you dipshit?

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                                                                                        • Grapesoda
                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                          • Jul 2003
                                                                                          • 46234
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by bronco67
                                                                                          The man has his shit together. Probably more than any lawyer Trump can hire. But he needs to reel it in a little and not be so arrogant on TV. He's going to slip up eventually.
                                                                                          brilliant: if the dude had his SHIT TOGETHER if media performance would be spotless.

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                                                                                            • dyna mo
                                                                                              just a fucking jerk
                                                                                              • Dec 2008
                                                                                              • 68431
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by bronco67
                                                                                              The man has his shit together. Probably more than any lawyer Trump can hire. But he needs to reel it in a little and not be so arrogant on TV. He's going to slip up eventually.
                                                                                              In some ways he does have his shit together. just not the tv thing or the running a law firm thing. I like how he's handling the stormy case and his putting continual pressure, via that case, on trump for being a horrible person.

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                                                                                                • Grapesoda
                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                                                  • 46234
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                                                  how did you find out about the $10m judgement against avenatti? yup, the press.
                                                                                                  didnt even look at the name... just stormys lawyer firm blah blah.. I don't even give a fuck if it's true .. I think everything about it is base and of low moral agenda.

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                                                                                                    • Bladewire
                                                                                                      StraightBro
                                                                                                      • Aug 2003
                                                                                                      • 56220
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by Grapesoda
                                                                                                      I think everything about it is base and of low moral agenda.
                                                                                                      It's good you're seeing Trump for what he truly is


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                                                                                                        • dyna mo
                                                                                                          just a fucking jerk
                                                                                                          • Dec 2008
                                                                                                          • 68431
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by Grapesoda
                                                                                                          didnt even look at the name... just stormys lawyer firm blah blah.. I don't even give a fuck if it's true .. I think everything about it is base and of low moral agenda.
                                                                                                          you learned about it via the media.

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                                                                                                            • JFK
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                                                                                                              • Jan 2002
                                                                                                              • 67369
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by k0nr4d
                                                                                                              They're desperately trying to stretch it out to 20
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                                                                                                                • ErectMedia
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                                                                                                                  • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                  • 7100
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by MrBottomTooth
                                                                                                                  She's coming to a strip bar here next month. $35 a ticket. I'd like to go get a picture with her but I have a thing about going to a strip bar on a Wednesday. She's obviously milking this for all it's worth.
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                                                                                                                    • PR_Glen
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                                                                                                                      • Oct 2006
                                                                                                                      • 9058
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Grapesoda
                                                                                                                      bro when I read the other day that the law firm representing stormy had a 10 mil judgment against them in a bankruptcy.

                                                                                                                      that cleared up any mystery about WTF is going on with that bullshit....
                                                                                                                      how would that clear up anything? that is barely relevant.

                                                                                                                      I don't buy into this 'he will not finish his term' nonsense by him either. It is getting tiresome. The only investigation that matters and the only one who knows whats going on is Mueller and his people. Whether they have anything or not has yet to be seen by anyone including the Daniels team so speculating is a worthless effort.
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                                                                                                                        • dyna mo
                                                                                                                          just a fucking jerk
                                                                                                                          • Dec 2008
                                                                                                                          • 68431
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by PR_Glen
                                                                                                                          how would that clear up anything? that is barely relevant.

                                                                                                                          I don't buy into this 'he will not finish his term' nonsense by him either. It is getting tiresome. The only investigation that matters and the only one who knows whats going on is Mueller and his people. Whether they have anything or not has yet to be seen by anyone including the Daniels team so speculating is a worthless effort.
                                                                                                                          As Rudy said yesterday, this is a war of public opinion. I don't necessarily buy that 100%, but there is truth to it.

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                                                                                                                            • kane
                                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                              • Aug 2001
                                                                                                                              • 20684
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                                                                              As Rudy said yesterday, this is a war of public opinion. I don't necessarily buy that 100%, but there is truth to it.
                                                                                                                              I agree. I don't think it is 100% true, but today I saw an article that said 48% of Republicans think as many as 5 million illegals voted in the 2016 election despite zero evidence of this.

                                                                                                                              I know that both sides pander to their base and try to push their agenda, but this is a perfect example of how Trump and the Republicans constantly repeating something that is unproven and likely a lie can cause a lot of people to buy what they are selling.

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                                                                                                                                • Rochard
                                                                                                                                  Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                                  • 75770
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by crockett
                                                                                                                                  Their lawsuit is why we found out about the Cohen payments. Granted it's likely Muller already knew of them, but it made it to the public view due to Stormy's lawyer forcing Cohen to give them his financial records. When that happened they got access to proof that trump paid Cohen and of course could prove Stormy was paid, but also in those records were all these other payments going to Cohen since Trump became POTUS..

                                                                                                                                  Basically Stormy's lawyer blew the whole Cohen payments for access to Trump out in the open.. Again I'm sure Muller knew this shit already, but he never leaks anything and who knows if we would have ever found out if Republicans were able to try and bury it. Now it's all out in the open and they can't hide the corruption.

                                                                                                                                  You can damn sure bet that Trump being the greedy fuck he is, he sure as hell wasn't just letting Cohen take money for access to Trump, with out Trump getting his cut.. This issue alone is direct bribery and will take Trump down..

                                                                                                                                  Collusion, money laundering, constant lies and disrespect of the office and the people's trust.. there is pretty much at least a dozen reasons Trump can legitimately be impeached and any other POTUS already would have been if not for useless Republicans in Congress. The only reason he's still here is because his Republican enablers (aka traitors to this country) refuse to do anything. That will all change come the mid terms..

                                                                                                                                  Even if Democrats don't win back both the House & Senate they will take enough seats that Republicans will be forced kicking and screaming into impeachment proceedings.
                                                                                                                                  There is so much we still don't know... Every day I wake up and I think to myself "What next". Every day it's just more bullshit.
                                                                                                                                  Herschel Savage
                                                                                                                                  Brooklyn, NY

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                                                                                                                                    • crockett
                                                                                                                                      in a van by the river
                                                                                                                                      • May 2003
                                                                                                                                      • 76818
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Grapesoda
                                                                                                                                      bro when I read the other day that the law firm representing stormy had a 10 mil judgment against them in a bankruptcy.

                                                                                                                                      that cleared up any mystery about WTF is going on with that bullshit....
                                                                                                                                      What about all the millions Trump has paid out due to his cons? His entire life he has conned people out of money and now suddenly he's legit?
                                                                                                                                      In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                                                                                                                        • 2MuchMark
                                                                                                                                          Mark of 2Much.net
                                                                                                                                          • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                          • 51248
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                                                                                          i don't like that guy. he's a slimy ambulance chaser. He's a jackass in interviews also.
                                                                                                                                          I agree - he clearly likes being on TV. But then again, I don't care what his personality is as long as he helps take Trump down.

                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by OneHungLo
                                                                                                                                          You know damn well Trump is going to serve out his full 8 years.
                                                                                                                                          For your sake I hope he doesn't last another 6 months.

                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Bladewire
                                                                                                                                          Why would you want someone corrupt as the American president?


                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by celandina
                                                                                                                                          He paid off a hooker thru his "agent" , so what !?
                                                                                                                                          It's illegal for one thing... he lied about it for another thing...

                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by MrBottomTooth
                                                                                                                                          She's coming to a strip bar here next month. $35 a ticket. I'd like to go get a picture with her
                                                                                                                                          I'd pay $35 to get a picture with her. Then I'd make it my GFY avatar.

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                                                                                                                                            • directfiesta
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                                                                                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                              • 30251
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by OneHungLo
                                                                                                                                              You know damn well Trump is going to serve out his full 8 years.
                                                                                                                                              I was under the impression it would be more like 20 ......
                                                                                                                                              I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                                                                                                              But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                                                                                                                • beerptrol
                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed Asshole
                                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                                  • 12722
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Stormy's lawyer may be am ambulance chaser, but he's beating chump at his own game.

                                                                                                                                                  "bro when I read the other day that the law firm representing stormy had a 10 mil judgment against them in a bankruptcy."

                                                                                                                                                  How much was the judgement against Chump for Chump University? How many bankruptcies does Chump have? How much in losses has he claimed as tax write offs the last 15 years?

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