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ilnjscb 06-30-2016 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 20998711)
Collin Powell was Secretary of state before Clinton.

Collin Powell used AOL for ALL of his official, and private, email communications through the whole Iraq war.

Collin Powell provided ZERO copies of ANY communications to the state department, ZERO. All records of that time are gone.

The FBI never investigated or charged Collin Powell with a crime. If they charge Hillary, they'll have to go back and charge Powell, and investigate Condoleeza Rice, as she used private email as well.

Its all drama to bring Clintons favorability numbers down, like the two year long $7 million Benghazi investigation that came up with ZERO.

I understand. Obama could easily have quashed the charges, but he didn't. Further, you actually don't have to bring charges against someone because you charge someone else who committed similar actions with a crime. Also, the laws changed between Powell and Clinton.

Regardless, I don't think she committed a crime, but, much like her anti-snowden position or her favoring of the NSA, or her vote for Iraq war, I think the way she handled her emails reflects an instance of bad judgment.

I'm supporting her over Trump though. I think he'll provide a very tough challenge, but I think she'll ultimately prevail. That's just my opinion.

Bladewire 06-30-2016 03:34 PM

I'm seeing blocked posts by Joshua G and DynaMo within minutes or seconds of eachother , as usual. Aren't multiple accounts a violation of GFY terms and result in a ban for all accounts?

bronco67 06-30-2016 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20997391)
What's even funnier is how much libtards watch fox news and post it all over.

i watch Fox News just to see what the assholes are talking about on any given day.

dyna mo 06-30-2016 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20999575)
i watch Fox News just to see what the assholes are talking about on any given day.

I come here for that.

dyna mo 06-30-2016 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 20999554)
I'm seeing blocked posts by Joshua G and DynaMo within minutes or seconds of eachother , as usual. Aren't multiple accounts a violation of GFY terms and result in a ban for all accounts?

What's the minimum amount of time you need in between posts so you don't try and create the gay dramas about it?

C H R I S 06-30-2016 03:42 PM

Benghazi went well for you.... looking forward to similar results....

Carry on.

dyna mo 06-30-2016 03:55 PM

I too hope FBI finds Hillary clear of any criminal activity, it's an embarrassment and a shame and a travesty of America just to have a Potus candidate being investigated by the FBI for criminal acts as it is.

It's still weird to me that that not only doesn't bother some people, they actually try and rationalize it away, usually with a yeah well Trump or yeah well Colin Powell.

ilnjscb 07-01-2016 08:22 AM

Now Lynch says she will take the recommendations of the JD and FBI. I'm out on a limb here, but that says to me she knows there won't be a recommendation for criminal charges on Clinton. Unfortunately, I also think some poor lackey will go down. The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long.

I say this will make the race very interesting, which is great.

Helix 07-01-2016 08:32 AM

Swap out "Republican" and "Democrat" for your favorite sports teams. That's what this has come to. Rooting for your team.
I guess truth, honor, and the law don't matter anymore.

nico-t 07-01-2016 09:59 AM

Soak up the one sided agenda in mainstream media. Come on, soak it all up like mindless sponges. Until you start parroting it to other people. Repeat it to make yourself feel like you know it all. You are smart. You are sophisticated. Everyone who looks at things objectively and bases their opinion on facts is dumb. And must die. Wish those evil free thinkers dead, my tolerant slave. Good boy.

dyna mo 07-01-2016 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 21001090)
Now Lynch says she will take the recommendations of the JD and FBI. I'm out on a limb here, but that says to me she knows there won't be a recommendation for criminal charges on Clinton. Unfortunately, I also think some poor lackey will go down. The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long.

I say this will make the race very interesting, which is great.

you may be right. it seems more like damage control to me after the press raked her over the coals this week for her chance encounter with bill at the airport.

Joshua G 07-01-2016 10:32 AM

Sorry libs. Voters dont turn out for lying felons whose boss lets her break the law.

You dems are so screwed, & your clueless its coming.

ilnjscb 07-01-2016 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 21001567)
Sorry libs. Voters dont turn out for lying felons whose boss lets her break the law.

You dems are so screwed, & your clueless its coming.

It is "you're" my good man, and perhaps "you're" correct, but which felon are you referring to? At present there are none who are nominees for major parties.

The damage from this has been "baked in" as they say; only an actual criminal charge will derail her presidency. I suggest it will be as follows:

1. No charges, no reprimand for anyone +12 poll points for Clinton, electoral wipeout
2. No charges, reprimand for staff +8 points, wipeout
3. Reprimand, reprimand for staff +4 points, wipeout <-my bet
3. Reprimand, charges for staff +0 points, close race
4. Civil charges for Clinton, charges or reprimand for staff, -7 points, possible loss
5. Criminal charges for Clinton, unable to continue as nominee

Joshua G 07-01-2016 10:45 AM

Right. Keep believing hilary is up 12. Nazis said the jews caused the war too. Did u also believe that?

& casey anthony was not a felon, a jury said so...right? :1orglaugh

ilnjscb 07-01-2016 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 21001585)
Right. Keep believing hilary is up 12. Nazis said the jews caused the war too. Did u also believe that?

& casey anthony was not a felon, a jury said so...right? :1orglaugh

JG man that is LITERALLY what makes a felon! You can't believe someone into a felon!

I can believe all day that Casey Anthony was guilty, and I do, but that doesn't make her a felon, and it doesn't mean she should do jail time. I would a million times rather let a criminal go than jail an innocent person.

dyna mo 07-01-2016 10:55 AM

word around the web is that airport meeting was a private meeting between lynch and bill on the plane.

"I think she should have said, 'Look, I recognize you have a long record of leadership on fighting crime but this is not the time for us to have that conversation,' " Delaware Democratic Sen. Chris Coons said of Lynch in an interview with CNN. " 'After the election is over, I'd welcome your advice.' "

Lynch bowed to the public pressure caused by her impromptu meeting Friday morning, announcing that she will accept whatever recommendation federal prosecutors make in the email case. Lynch repeatedly acknowledged in an interview with The Post's Jonathan Capehart at the Aspen Ideas Festival in Colorado that her meeting with Bill Clinton had cast a shadow over the investigation. After much prodding from Capehart, she even basically acknowledged the meeting never should have happened in the first place.

"I certainly wouldn't do it again," she said.

Bill Clinton and AG Loretta Lynch meet privately - CNNPolitics.com

Bladewire 07-01-2016 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 21001591)
JG man that is LITERALLY what makes a felon! You can't believe someone into a felon!

I can believe all day that Casey Anthony was guilty, and I do, but that doesn't make her a felon, and it doesn't mean she should do jail time. I would a million times rather let a criminal go than jail an innocent person.

Trump supporters literally would rather jail an innocent person and let criminal Trump go free so republicans control the white house.

Rochard 07-01-2016 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 21001573)
It is "you're" my good man, and perhaps "you're" correct, but which felon are you referring to? At present there are none who are nominees for major parties.

The damage from this has been "baked in" as they say; only an actual criminal charge will derail her presidency. I suggest it will be as follows:

1. No charges, no reprimand for anyone +12 poll points for Clinton, electoral wipeout
2. No charges, reprimand for staff +8 points, wipeout
3. Reprimand, reprimand for staff +4 points, wipeout <-my bet
3. Reprimand, charges for staff +0 points, close race
4. Civil charges for Clinton, charges or reprimand for staff, -7 points, possible loss
5. Criminal charges for Clinton, unable to continue as nominee

I do not believe that there will be any charges.

The charges that would be brought would be under the Espionage Act, and was meant to prosecute spies. Meaning the laws were created to charge a spy with taking classified information and giving it an agent of another country (Ally or otherwise). In these cases, they look at intent and damages. The intention was for her to do her job, and there was no damages.

One of the charges they are looking at is "mishandling classified information". That's a big vague. You can clearly argue she never mishandled anything - she sent an email and it got sent to the correct person, it was not intercepted, and the information was not received by anyone other than the person it was intended for. There will also be discussions about if the receiving person was allowed to received classified information, but you can argue that until you are blue in the face too - Was the email classified, when was it classified, was the other person allowed to received such classified information, and did the person sending know it was classified, etc.... At a certain point in time it will become impossible for our government to do business because before anyone in the State Department / White House / Congress / CIA / Pentagon sends out any information via email, it will have to be vetted by a dozen different agencies, the CIA, the Justice Department, and then the Justice League. (Yes, I said Justice League!)

One of the "classified" emails was about a birthday wish. It was from a staff member to Clinton which was forwarded to another staff member to handle. It was a reminder to send to send a birthday wish to a President of another country. The information wasn't classified, no one need to "read in" on the information, but for some reason it was classified after the fact for reasons no one understands.

On top of all of this, if the Secretary of State decides that one of her staff members needs to be involved in something that involves classified information, shouldn't the Secretary of State be allowed to do this? Or should the entire State Department drag to a halt every time they have to have a discussion about classified information?

I don't like Hillary. (I obviously like Trump a lot less.) But frankly, this is a waste of time, money, and resources. Even if she is completely guilty and they go all out to press full charges - which are highly unlikely - Clinton will put into a place a legal dream team that make the OJ case look like child's play, delay any potential charges until well after the election, will fight them tooth and nail, and in the end she'll be charged with a handful of misdemeanor and a small fine.

This is like someone loosing their brakes on a hill and having a small accident - and then being handed a traffic ticket for speeding.

dyna mo 07-01-2016 11:24 AM

how does someone claim to know what charges would be brought against hillary when the FBI hasn't released 1 single iota of information re: the investigation and what it all covers?

ilnjscb 07-01-2016 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21001771)
I do not believe that there will be any charges.

The charges that would be brought would be under the Espionage Act, and was meant to prosecute spies. Meaning the laws were created to charge a spy with taking classified information and giving it an agent of another country (Ally or otherwise). In these cases, they look at intent and damages. The intention was for her to do her job, and there was no damages.

One of the charges they are looking at is "mishandling classified information". That's a big vague. You can clearly argue she never mishandled anything - she sent an email and it got sent to the correct person, it was not intercepted, and the information was not received by anyone other than the person it was intended for. There will also be discussions about if the receiving person was allowed to received classified information, but you can argue that until you are blue in the face too - Was the email classified, when was it classified, was the other person allowed to received such classified information, and did the person sending know it was classified, etc.... At a certain point in time it will become impossible for our government to do business because before anyone in the State Department / White House / Congress / CIA / Pentagon sends out any information via email, it will have to be vetted by a dozen different agencies, the CIA, the Justice Department, and then the Justice League. (Yes, I said Justice League!)

One of the "classified" emails was about a birthday wish. It was from a staff member to Clinton which was forwarded to another staff member to handle. It was a reminder to send to send a birthday wish to a President of another country. The information wasn't classified, no one need to "read in" on the information, but for some reason it was classified after the fact for reasons no one understands.

On top of all of this, if the Secretary of State decides that one of her staff members needs to be involved in something that involves classified information, shouldn't the Secretary of State be allowed to do this? Or should the entire State Department drag to a halt every time they have to have a discussion about classified information?

I don't like Hillary. (I obviously like Trump a lot less.) But frankly, this is a waste of time, money, and resources. Even if she is completely guilty and they go all out to press full charges - which are highly unlikely - Clinton will put into a place a legal dream team that make the OJ case look like child's play, delay any potential charges until well after the election, will fight them tooth and nail, and in the end she'll be charged with a handful of misdemeanor and a small fine.

This is like someone loosing their brakes on a hill and having a small accident - and then being handed a traffic ticket for speeding.

That may be but if they file criminal charges she will not win the presidency. Of course she won't do jail time - but that doesn't matter to her. I am pretty astonished at how brazen all this is on Obama's part. I wonder what they are hiding?

Bladewire 07-01-2016 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 21002026)
That may be but if they file criminal charges she will not win the presidency. Of course she won't do jail time - but that doesn't matter to her. I am pretty astonished at how brazen all this is on Obama's part. I wonder what they are hiding?


Judicial Watch released their deposition of Patrick Kennedy, State Department under secretary for management yesterday. There is no smoking gun and he said, among other things, that he knew she was using that email address and didn't say their was anything wrong with it but did say that those in the State Department are "encouraged" to use state.gov.

With him backing Clinton, and the FBI requesting back in April that the State Department suspend their investigation into whether any of the emails were classified at the time she sent/received them at the State Department, it's clear she wont be indicted because the State Department hasn't certified if the emails were classified when she sent/received them.

Joshua G 07-01-2016 03:40 PM

liberals - get the fuck out of my thread with your stupid.

rochard, you wrote a wall of words, every single word of which says "i still havent read clinton cash & choose to ignore the full picture" stop wasting your energy there are potatoes with more wattage than you.

bladewire, put me back on ignore please. i dont know why you are full of bile against a man who will make america great again, but you havent contributed one iota of fact or enlightenment. so make your own threads full of your nonsense. get it out of here.

you libs so dumb, you cant see the only way you win if she's indicted. then you can get bernie, or biden, & have a shot at the white house, & SCOTUS.

but you fucking dumbasses will be singing happy songs when she is cleared, when in truth her acquittal will only feed the narrative that the system is rigged for the elites, & the donald will bash her over the head, every single day to november with her sleaze.

& you libs will lose everything. the presidency was the last bastion of power for the left. you have no state houses, you have no congress wings, you got no SCOTUS, you got NOTHING, no power left in america. all you got are safe spaces in college, & colbert. oh, & a california over-run by mexico. thats it.

& its all because you voted in the felon over the liberal in the primary.

:1orglaugh

nico-t 07-01-2016 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21001762)
Trump supporters literally would rather jail an innocent person and let criminal Trump go free so republicans control the white house.

Good luck voting pure evil establishment in...

I'd rather have a turd in the white house than Hillary. With Hillary the world is 100% sure of 4 more years of war... I cannot fathom the mind of anyone preferring her over anyone or anything... Unbelievable

Paul Markham 07-01-2016 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DavieVegas (Post 20996116)
Polls are garbage. Its all old retired people sitting around taking polls. This election is gonna be unreal with the turn out of voters for trump. If everyone voted now, it spells a problem for Hillary imo. DEMOCRATS have a history of being lazy voters. Big % never make it to the polls. Also, take into consideration that the primaries STILL did not have ALL the voters go to the polls. I didnt go. Many are not gonna wait in lines to vote for a primary. When it counts, you will see that # of voters double if not triple by republican voters. They should stop doing polls. They are garbage

Agree about polls being garbage. This one seems to far to be 100% wrong.

Paul Markham 07-01-2016 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Paper_Zak (Post 20996689)
I don't think she will face indictment. If there was enough evidence to prosecute her, wouldn't they have began proceedings already? Why would a democratic president leaving office shoot is party in the foot on his way out the door by bringing criminal charges to his preferred successor?

Bush is yet to face charges for lying to the world and going into war.

Nixon was given a free pardon for his crimes.

Will the upcoming Chilcot report take Blair to task for lying to Parliament?

Yes Clinton is a bad choice for President. The US had a great choice in Bernie Sanders and still chooses Clinton.

The GOP had an open goal to get the Presidency and couldn't beat Trump. Why did they fail? https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...sten-mind.html Watch the video and think what is all stage managed and how easy was it to stage manage?

kane 07-02-2016 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 21001567)
Sorry libs. Voters dont turn out for lying felons whose boss lets her break the law.

You dems are so screwed, & your clueless its coming.

You are dead wrong about this. In 2008 Ted Stevens had been indicted - not just investigated, but charged, arrested and indicted and then later went to jail - on felony charges and he still got about 46% of the vote in that election.

Some people will vote for a D or an R no matter who the candidate is or what they may say, do, or believe.

Rochard 07-02-2016 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 21002026)
That may be but if they file criminal charges she will not win the presidency. Of course she won't do jail time - but that doesn't matter to her. I am pretty astonished at how brazen all this is on Obama's part. I wonder what they are hiding?

I disagree.

You are saying "If charges are filed, Clinton is done with". Yet Trump is already going to trial in November. And there are hundreds of other lawsuits pending. HUNDREDS.

dyna mo 07-02-2016 01:36 PM

Trump's lawsuits are civil, not criminal and many if not most were filed by Trump, none of which are stemming from FBI criminal investigations.

dyna mo 07-02-2016 01:37 PM

read earlier that Hills was interviewed by the FBI today.

arock10 07-02-2016 02:02 PM

I feel like we should have another Benghazi investigation first

kane 07-02-2016 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 21003781)
read earlier that Hills was interviewed by the FBI today.

I saw that today. Josh G must have came so hard he passed out and couldn't post about it.

Joshua G 07-02-2016 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 21001090)
Now Lynch says she will take the recommendations of the JD and FBI. I'm out on a limb here, but that says to me she knows there won't be a recommendation for criminal charges on Clinton. Unfortunately, I also think some poor lackey will go down. The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long.

I say this will make the race very interesting, which is great.

upon further reflection, looks more & more like bubbas meet n greet in phoenix was intimidation. everyone is crapping on loretta for the meet, but it was slick willy that made first contact.

hilary. may yet be on her way down the drain. surely loretta cant know there wont be charges before hilz was interviewed, today apparently.

:2 cents:

Joshua G 07-02-2016 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 21003889)
I saw that today. Josh G must have came so hard he passed out and couldn't post about it.

no. the money shot is the day she realizes its game over. shes too arrogant to resign, so she'll either be vanquished by her own party, or by the voters.

libs if i really wanted trump in white house, i would root for her getting cleared. i would rather see a fair fight in the election, not trump win on a gimmee from the felon & the dumb dems that voted for her. sanders is an interesting guy. hilary is a fake phony fraud. Why is she even in the race.

whatever happens, she will not be president of the united states of america.

:)

ilnjscb 07-02-2016 02:41 PM

The investigation couldn't have ended without her being interviewed! They are looking at *her* emails!

The question is, what will be done? Some here seem pretty confident one way or the other. I'm not, but I doubt it will disrupt the election.

If I were to hazard a guess, and that is all it is, I'd say this is good for her, because the investigation is nearing its end.

dyna mo 07-02-2016 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 21003889)
I saw that today. Josh G must have came so hard he passed out and couldn't post about it.

Ahahahahahahahaahahahahaha!

I snickered.

dyna mo 07-02-2016 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 21003898)
upon further reflection, looks more & more like bubbas meet n greet in phoenix was intimidation. everyone is crapping on loretta for the meet, but it was slick willy that made first contact.

hilary. may yet be on her way down the drain. surely loretta cant know there wont be charges before hilz was interviewed, today apparently.

:2 cents:

I tend to agree . He was on her plane chitty chatty for 30 minutes. She claims they discussed grand kids and golf, that covers about 3 minutes.

I thought slick willy is supposed to be the politically adroit one? Hills plans to tap him to fix the economy too.

Joshua G 07-02-2016 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 21003937)
The investigation couldn't have ended without her being interviewed! They are looking at *her* emails!

The question is, what will be done? Some here seem pretty confident one way or the other. I'm not, but I doubt it will disrupt the election.

If I were to hazard a guess, and that is all it is, I'd say this is good for her, because the investigation is nearing its end.

im pretty sure, that a criminal investigation does not require the prey to participate in the process. for all we know hilary declined to be interviewed but sent out cars just for the PR of her cooperating. i have no idea, if the dirt on her is true, why she would cooperate in an interview. all she could do is perjury, or a lot of 5ths.

but clintons have successfully lied their way through legal proceedings, so theres that.

Joshua G 07-02-2016 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 21003010)
You are dead wrong about this. In 2008 Ted Stevens had been indicted - not just investigated, but charged, arrested and indicted and then later went to jail - on felony charges and he still got about 46% of the vote in that election.

Some people will vote for a D or an R no matter who the candidate is or what they may say, do, or believe.

good point. explains why a majority of dem voters chose "her" the felon. or...since most people need 12 jurors to say so..."possible" felon. I myself have judged that she engages in felonious behavior & therefore is a felon in my book.

did stevens win?

:)

kane 07-02-2016 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 21003982)
good point. explains why a majority of dem voters chose "her" the felon. or...since most people need 12 jurors to say so..."possible" felon. I myself have judged that she engages in felonious behavior & therefore is a felon in my book.

did stevens win?

:)

Stevens didn't win, but it was actually pretty damn close. Stevens got 46.7% of the vote. His opponent got 47.9%. And Stevens was a Republican. Democrats aren't the only ones who vote for criminals. In this case nearly half the people of Alaska said they would rather have a criminal who was heading for bed than a Democrat.

Joshua G 07-02-2016 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 21003994)
Stevens didn't win, but it was actually pretty damn close. Stevens got 46.7% of the vote. His opponent got 47.9%. And Stevens was a Republican. Democrats aren't the only ones who vote for criminals. In this case nearly half the people of Alaska said they would rather have a criminal who was heading for bed than a Democrat.

well let me put it this way. if trump never ran, & ted cruz was the nominee, i'd vote hilary, even with an indictment & the VP would have to run the country for half the term.

:)

so i guess im conceding your point. but it would take a satan of a opponent for the majority of people to go with a felon. trump?


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