Use a Firewall, Go to Jail

[MrPopup]

These are the real issues we should be concerned with....

The lock down of America continues.

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The states of Massachusetts and Texas are preparing to consider bills that apparently are intended to extend the national Digital Millennium Copyright Act. (TX bill; MA bill) The bills are obviously related to each other somehow, since they are textually similar.

Here is one example of the far-reaching harmful effects of these bills. Both bills would flatly ban the possession, sale, or use of technologies that "conceal from a communication service provider ... the existence or place of origin or destination of any communication". Your ISP is a communcation service provider, so anything that concealed the origin or destination of any communication from your ISP would be illegal -- with no exceptions.

If you send or receive your email via an encrypted connection, you're in violation, because the "To" and "From" lines of the emails are concealed from your ISP by encryption. (The encryption conceals the destinations of outgoing messages, and the sources of incoming messages.)

Worse yet, Network Address Translation (NAT), a technology widely used for enterprise security, operates by translating the "from" and "to" fields of Internet packets, thereby concealing the source or destination of each packet, and hence violating these bills. Most security "firewalls" use NAT, so if you use a firewall, you're in violation.

If you have a home DSL router, or if you use the "Internet Connection Sharing" feature of your favorite operating system product, you're in violation because these connection sharing technologies use NAT. Most operating system products (including every version of Windows introduced in the last five years, and virtually all versions of Linux) would also apparently be banned, because they support connection sharing via NAT.

And this is just one example of the problems with these bills. Yikes.

[MrPopup]

Originally posted by MrPopup
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The states of Massachusetts and Texas are preparing to consider bills that apparently are intended to extend the national Digital Millennium Copyright Act. (TX bill; MA bill) The bills are obviously related to each other somehow, since they are textually similar.

I think Microsoft has a big enough lobby to quash this thing. But will they?

[rooster]

head for the hills, go into your bunker.

[MrPopup]

Originally posted by rooster
head for the hills, go into your bunker.

building a safe room now...how'd you know?

[Lane]

i'm moving to Canada

[XxXotic]

boggles the mind that the goverment doesn't have more pressing issues to worry about, like feeding our hungry, sheltering our homeless, pumping more crack into the ghetto

fuckin priorities

[fnet]

Originally posted by MrPopup
These are the real issues we should be concerned with....

The lock down of America continues.

********************************
http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/

The states of Massachusetts and Texas are preparing to consider bills that apparently are intended to extend the national Digital Millennium Copyright Act. (TX bill; MA bill) The bills are obviously related to each other somehow, since they are textually similar.

Here is one example of the far-reaching harmful effects of these bills. Both bills would flatly ban the possession, sale, or use of technologies that "conceal from a communication service provider ... the existence or place of origin or destination of any communication". Your ISP is a communcation service provider, so anything that concealed the origin or destination of any communication from your ISP would be illegal -- with no exceptions.

If you send or receive your email via an encrypted connection, you're in violation, because the "To" and "From" lines of the emails are concealed from your ISP by encryption. (The encryption conceals the destinations of outgoing messages, and the sources of incoming messages.)

Worse yet, Network Address Translation (NAT), a technology widely used for enterprise security, operates by translating the "from" and "to" fields of Internet packets, thereby concealing the source or destination of each packet, and hence violating these bills. Most security "firewalls" use NAT, so if you use a firewall, you're in violation.

If you have a home DSL router, or if you use the "Internet Connection Sharing" feature of your favorite operating system product, you're in violation because these connection sharing technologies use NAT. Most operating system products (including every version of Windows introduced in the last five years, and virtually all versions of Linux) would also apparently be banned, because they support connection sharing via NAT.

And this is just one example of the problems with these bills. Yikes.

The DMCA is full of stupid fucking rules. What a cancerous piece of twaddle. These bankrolled fuckwads can't see 6 months ahead of their truffle mud.

This bill is moot, a pathetic hindsight bandaid with zero enforceability. IP6, Hello? Stack frame packet tunnelling at each hop? Hello? Spoof dat.

As the ding dong elder lawyerlings try to push technology back into the box, it will seep away from them forever. And all the new money with it.

[ryph]

Originally posted by fnet



The DMCA is full of stupid fucking rules. What a cancerous piece of twaddle. These bankrolled fuckwads can't see 6 months ahead of their truffle mud.

This bill is moot, a pathetic hindsight bandaid with zero enforceability. IP6, Hello? Stack frame packet tunnelling at each hop? Hello? Spoof dat.

As the ding dong elder lawyerlings try to push technology back into the box, it will seep away from them forever. And all the new money with it.

Exactly.

[iroc409]

i will not give up my privacy and security that way. take me to jail.


they couldn't get this through, they'd have geeks packing heat in their back yard.

[MrPopup]

Originally posted by fnet

As the ding dong elder lawyerlings try to push technology back into the box, it will seep away from them forever. And all the new money with it.

i like that because its true.

these senior citizens are scared because people in here are running around with more money then them. The world fucking hates young people.

And when we get old we'll be doing the same things to our kids.

[iroc409]

Originally posted by MrPopup


i like that because its true.

these senior citizens are scared because people in here are running around with more money then them. The world fucking hates young people.

And when we get old we'll be doing the same things to our kids.

i couldn't have said it better.

[Rictor]

We need a few politicians who are dedicated to having current laws repealed, not making up new ones.

[XxXotic]

Originally posted by Rictor
We need a few politicians who are dedicated to having current laws repealed, not making up new ones.

no we need politicians who beat off daily to our sites to stop being hipocritcal and stop trying to make laws to slow us down. I guarantee these fucks pull their cocks out when they're surfing for sites to try to close down

"These (stroke) sites (stroke) should (stroke) be (stroke) outlawed" (spooge)

[BRISK]

I think the number 1 threat to "freedom" is the US government. Everyday they seem to pass some new bill that gives people less personal freedom.

So while George Bush gets up on TV sayin they're over in some fucked up country fighting to "preserve freedom", that same government is busy drafting laws to take away peoples ability to enjoy that "freedom" that they are suposedly fighting for

In a free country, shouldn't a person be able to send another person an email without the government being able to read it first?

[the indigo]

Originally posted by BRISK
I think the number 1 threat to "freedom" is the US government. Everyday they seem to pass some new bill that gives people less personal freedom.

So while George Bush gets up on TV sayin they're over in some fucked up country fighting to "preserve freedom", that same government is busy drafting laws to take away peoples ability to enjoy that "freedom" that they are suposedly fighting for

In a free country, shouldn't a person be able to send another person an email without the government being able to read it first?

E X A C T L Y.

The US gouverment in three words: Brainwasher, Dictator, Terrorist.

Oh yeah I'm really really jealous! I will stick to my ice home, here in Canada and sell US memberships (Business is NOT personnal ya know)

Damnit, I would love to be a US citizen and pay taxes for a stupid war, watch cencored news, and have my "freedom" exploited like a bitch.

PS: The Gouverment and the Citizen are two different things, you know? That means I did not call you a dictator or a terrorist, but your gouverment, yes.

PS2: ...did you get it yet?

PS3: That means you can be pro-american and anti-usa-gouverment... ya know?

PS4: ...did you get it yet?

[Steve]

Didn't you guys ever see Schoolhouse Rock? It's just a BILL - not a law. All it means is that some dumb fuck got all excited and wrote this shit up as a proposal before he researched it properly, which will mean this thing has no chance of passing.