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SilentKnight 06-13-2016 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20961014)
Hunting squirrels and such.

:1orglaugh

And someone in the NRA would give that answer with a straight face.

sandman! 06-13-2016 07:41 PM

who gives a shit about gun suicides ?

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20960741)
Facts.

In 2010, guns took the lives of 31,076 Americans in homicides, suicides and unintentional shootings. This is the equivalent of more than 85 deaths each day and more than three deaths each hour.

73,505 Americans were treated in hospital emergency departments for non-fatal gunshot wounds in 2010.

Firearms were the third-leading cause of injury-related deaths nationwide in 2010, following poisoning and motor vehicle accidents.

Between 1955 and 1975, the Vietnam War killed over 58,000 American soldiers ? less than the number of civilians killed with guns in the U.S. in an average two-year period.

In the first seven years of the U.S.-Iraq War, over 4,400 American soldiers were killed.
Almost as many civilians are killed with guns in the U.S., however, every seven weeks.

In 2010, unintentional firearm injuries caused the deaths of 606 people.

From 2005-2010, almost 3,800 people in the U.S. died from unintentional shootings.

Over 1,300 victims of unintentional shootings for the period 2005?2010 were under 25 years of age.

And the logic of the pro-gun crew is we can't stop all these so let's not try to slow it down. The accidental shootings are the scariest. A lot of people don't respect what a gun is. How many times have we read of a child shooting someone by accident while playing with a gun?

Some people believe the #1 issue in the coming election is their right to have a gun and all the risks attached to it. Obviously, one has to be hiding from the real world to think that. America has far bigger problems than the right to have a big gun and lots of ammo.


Paul Markham 06-14-2016 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by sandman! (Post 20961233)
who gives a shit about gun suicides ?

The ones where they decide to go out in a blaze of publicity with everyone talking about them for months.

There's one thing you can always rely on from the pro-gun lobby. And that's stupidity.

Paul Markham 06-14-2016 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20960876)
I will ban all guns temporarily until we figure out what's going on. - Trump

Stop being logical. It has no place in the gun debate.

Paul Markham 06-14-2016 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 20960975)
There were 3,988,076 births in America last year. Roughly 32,000 died by guns last year, that's .8% of the number of births. Total deaths were 2,596,993. Yearly we're at a net gain of 1,391,083 new Americans added to the population. This is not sustainable.

We need more deaths.

Only 32,000. Arm more rednecks. :1orglaugh

GFED 06-14-2016 04:31 AM

I'd like to know the definition of what some people call "assault" weapons. From my understanding this guy had access to fully automatic weapons which require a special license which he had because he was a security officer. He was also on the FBI watchlist. I see a problem with the FBI allowing this to happen. Obviously they were alerted when he purchased the weapon.

ruff 06-14-2016 04:48 AM

There is basically no defense against someone that is willing to die in a terrorist attack. No matter what weapon they choose to use. Solution? Bio-mechanical weapons associated with the owner only. They cannot operate in urban environments except legal gun ranges. In the wild, only dedicated hunting grounds. Hunting licenses integrated into the operating systems. Using an Individual IP address for ID we can track the owner, the gun and the spam. Remote destruct mechanism would allow authorities to detonate weapon if user turned out to be a fucking prick. We can take the best ideas of the Nazis, the NRA and turn this killing problem around and control it. We can let good citizen's have their guns and blow the fucking idiots into oblivion when we decide we don't like them anymore. I bet if I passed this idea along to Trump, he would suck my dick on Pennsylvania Blvd. He's just that kind of guy.

CDSmith 06-14-2016 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20960261)
i don't think a ban would need for current owners to turn in their weapons. the statistics show that mass shooters typically buy their assault style weapons in the weeks prior to their assaults. it seems to me, based on the stats like these, that a ban alone, a buying moratorium, would go a long way towards curbing mass shootings in the USA.

I'd just like to see background checks actually leading to certain people not being allowed to get their hands on any kind of gun, period. All too often I'm hearing talk of people in the US who obviously have no business having one or having access to one being able to obtain a gun or guns, freely, even though their past track record is fraught with red flags.

As far as a ban goes, you're talking about a limited ban where only new prospective buyers are denied access to AR's, not a complete ban meaning all AR's everywhere are immediately banned. Although I'm a bit skeptical as to how something like that would fly in the States it is a step, and your country is definitely headed for legislating some type of step such as that, or one like it.

Something's gotta give with the guns.

CDSmith 06-14-2016 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20960573)
Do you really believe this would cost the Dems the election?

Just a point of note for future reference, but Paul when I put "lol" at the end of a sentence it means I'm joking.

dyna mo 06-14-2016 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20961680)
Only 32,000. Arm more rednecks. :1orglaugh

you need to update your list of slurs and derogatory labels for others, markham.

the OP is a redneck born & raised and he's advocating less guns, not more.

Rochard 06-14-2016 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ruff (Post 20961758)
They cannot operate in urban environments except legal gun ranges. In the wild, only dedicated hunting grounds. Hunting licenses integrated into the operating systems. Using an Individual IP address for ID we can track the owner, the gun and the spam.

This would never work. You cannot disable a firearm in a "urban setting" - what about home defense?


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