ATK does not pay there photographers

Hi Fred, No intention to thread jack, but do you have a link to portfolio? Also where are you based? Good luck!

"Reasonable money" is a subjective term that means different things to different people. Your offer may have been reasonable to you, but not to the other party. I get hit up all the time from people who want to hire me to shoot this & that. After I find out more about the project and give them a ballpark figure, I never hear from them again. I thought my fee was reasonable - they didn't. Or I get hit up from somebody who wants me to shoot a day full of content for 1/3 of what I would typically charge - that's not reasonable to me. I don't really see much of anything that's funny about this - it's just business. What kind of world would he have if we all agreed that a reasonable offer was reasonable?

Sidebar story - a regular GFY guy emailed me a while back saying that he was going to visit LA and wanted to hire a hair/makeup artist.... and asked if I could recommend someone that was "reasonably priced". I mentioned that $500 is typical for good hair/makeup artist but he may be able to get one cheaper. In fact, I gave him an email of a hair/makeup artist that would probably do it a bit cheaper. I thought the guy was going to shit his pants. He replied back saying that this rate was "insane". That models & producers are much more highly valued to him than makeup artist. Says that he'll just do the hair/makeup himself. Obviously $500 for a highly skilled hair/makeup artist was not a reasonable rate for him to pay although I and many others have no problem paying that. The point is that just because you think a reasonable rate is reasonable - it may not be to others.

Hope you are well man

Dean,
You are correct. I should have been more detailed. I was speaking of shooters with much less skill compared to you - thinking of making the site a sort of ExGF / Amateur site. These same guys are now shooting for much less.

You, on the other hand, may remember that when I wanted your quality level I gladly paid you exactly what you asked for exactly when you asked for it in the exact method you requested.

I should have been more clear that what I was requesting at the time was more "amateur". Same stuff they are now offering to do for half what I offered back then, because the business has "ebbs and flows".

heard same story from multiple people during last couple of years. Stay away.

For every one that gets paid, there's 10 others that don't.
This basically sums it all up i guess.

sad to hear

bump for scumbag.

That is so fucked up! Maybe one day you will get paid and maybe one day you will know the difference between their and there.. But that prolly won't happen the same day.

You should probably show off your grammar abilities, while posting in a second language.

Vous devriez probablement montrer vos capacités de grammaire , tout en affichant dans une deuxième langue

If they didn't pay you you own the copyright still
Sell it to someone that pays for your copyright.
Talk to your lawyer ...

If someone uses your content without paying you for it -- you can sue them for copyright infringement too.

JimmyStephans,
I'm not upset at you, or angry, or vengeful, I'm more irritated at your smug, condescending tone and passive-aggressiveness. And to clear up any confusion, I'm not owed any money (I've written off the $300 short I mentioned earlier), nor do I have any friends or associates owed any money by him.

As for your smooth dealings with Kim Nielsen, it seems you're not the only one whose interactions with him are all unicorns farting rainbows. Over the past year or two, agents have told me he not only pays them on time and in full, but also remunerates the models for his POV site at about double the normal going rate, which is obviously extremely generous. Also, some of the models hired for that site have gushed about how nice he was, particularly for the Vuitton bags and other such gifts that he bought them, and for the luxury accommodations and high end restaurants they patronized while on location in places like Hawaii, Las Vegas, and even some destinations in the Far East.

Bearing all this in mind, I must admit it seems beyond the realm of credibility that he would be stiffing his content producers. So perhaps those shooters who are whining about not getting paid for months and years are just like the actors and actresses in the two porn features Kim made (at ~$200,000 and ~$300,000 respectively) who complained they didn't get their promised residuals--they're just malcontents.

Well that explains where photographers monies are going. We stopped shooting for people unless they can pay 100% up front. Ripped off too many times. We produce top shelf content in "the far east." The hassles involved are not worth the pittance or jerking around you sometimes get from dick bags.
I think Barry said it. If you have not been paid what is owed you still own the content. Most likely. Of course, check with a lawyer.