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Old 05-31-2016, 04:24 PM   #1
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Has Trump ever had a business that didnt fail?

Quite an impressive list of business failures. No wonder he pays zero taxes and is afraid to release his returns.


Trump Steaks


Launched: 2007

Service rendered: Steaks

Years in business: 1




GoTrump.com

Launched: 2006

Service rendered: Travel search engine

Years in business: 1




Trump Airlines

Launched: 1989

Service rendered: Hourly flights between Boston, New York City, and Washington D.C.

Years in business: 4




Trump Vodka

Launched: 2006

Service Rendered: Drunk

Years in business: 5




Trump Mortgage

Launched: 2006

Service rendered: Residential and commercial real estate financing

Years in business: 1.5





Trump: The Game


Launched: 1989

Service rendered: Family fun

Years in business: 1




Trump Magazine

Launched: 2007

Service rendered: Entertainment for luxury-enthusiasts

Years in business: 2




Trump University

Launched: 2005

Service rendered: For-profit, non-accredited fake business degrees

Years in business: 6




Trump Ice

Launched: 2004

Service rendered: Hydration

Years in business: Less than 1




The New Jersey Generals

Owner: 1984-1985

Service rendered: Football

Years in business: 2





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Launched: 1989

Service rendered: Bike races

Years in business: 2



Trump on the Ocean

Launched: 2012

Service rendered: Restaurant/catering hall

Years in business: 0.3




The Trump Network

Launched: 2009

Service rendered: Vitamin pyramid scheme

Years in business: 2


Trumped!

Launched: 2004

Service rendered: Talk radio

Years in business: 4


Trump New Media


Almost launched: 1998

Service rendered: Video-on-demand and high-speed internet

Years in business: None
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According to a Businessweek story, the Trump Organization brought in about $605 million in revenue last year, and managed to clear somewhere between $275 and $325 million in profit.

That’s a phenomenally high profit margin (which, of course, is a key sign of the health of a business). Trump’s approximately 50 percent margin means his company is more profitable than Pfizer, Gazprom, and Hyundai – all the most profitable companies in their respective industries.

Trump’s company even has higher margins than Apple.

How Trump Invented Trump
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The Trump Plaza Hotel in NYC is still open.

Trump bought it for $400 million, and put in $50 million in renovations. A short time later it sold for $325 million.
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The Trump Plaza Hotel in NYC is still open.

Trump bought it for $400 million, and put in $50 million in renovations. A short time later it sold for $325 million.
no. it sold later for $675 million.
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No of course not because anyone who fails at everything is worth billions LOL.
He puts his name on everything and probably made a lot of money off of all those deals even though they are not around anymore.
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His business model is "throw some Trump shit at the wall and see what sticks".
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it seems as though trump is very good at licensing his name and letting others invest their money on the bet...kudos to him for being good at selling hot air...it is laughable that the blogger compares trumps embarrassing 600mil turnover in the same sentence with hyundai and its 76 billion turnover or gazproms 106billion turnover or pfizers net income for just last year of 7.6billion...

he seems to have quit developing real estate...he is now totally in the hot air business...

the only question is: can trump sell hot air to politicians?
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trumps makes ~$300 million a year with the shit that sticks to the fucking wall.


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no. it sold later for $675 million.
That's so cute how you did that.

Trump bought the hotel for $407.5 million in 1988. In 1995, CDL Hotels International bought the hotel for $325 million. However, due to one of Trump's multiple bankruptcies, Citibank owned 49% of the hotel then.

The hotel did in fact sell for $675 million. However, that was when CDL Hotels International sold it to El Ad Properties - In 2004, long after Trump had sold the hotel.

This was a massive lost for Trump. It nearly destroyed him.
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Trump is poor redneck's Richard Branson

BTW: Enron and Worldcom also showed profits every year.
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That's so cute how you did that.

Trump bought the hotel for $407.5 million in 1988. In 1995, CDL Hotels International bought the hotel for $325 million. However, due to one of Trump's multiple bankruptcies, Citibank owned 49% of the hotel then.

The hotel did in fact sell for $675 million. However, that was when CDL Hotels International sold it to El Ad Properties - In 2004, long after Trump had sold the hotel.

This was a massive lost for Trump. It nearly destroyed him.
Ooops. Dynamo is wrong again
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According to a Businessweek story, the Trump Organization brought in about $605 million in revenue last year, and managed to clear somewhere between $275 and $325 million in profit.

That?s a phenomenally high profit margin (which, of course, is a key sign of the health of a business). Trump?s approximately 50 percent margin means his company is more profitable than Pfizer, Gazprom, and Hyundai ? all the most profitable companies in their respective industries.

Trump?s company even has higher margins than Apple.

How Trump Invented Trump
But you said you're voting Bernie as you attack Hillary and defend Trump?

You'll be a feisty fun little rascal in the sack but this political stuff isn't your bag. Just chill stud and focus on the porn.
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That's so cute how you did that.

Trump bought the hotel for $407.5 million in 1988. In 1995, CDL Hotels International bought the hotel for $325 million. However, due to one of Trump's multiple bankruptcies, Citibank owned 49% of the hotel then.

The hotel did in fact sell for $675 million. However, that was when CDL Hotels International sold it to El Ad Properties - In 2004, long after Trump had sold the hotel.

This was a massive lost for Trump. It nearly destroyed him.
Entirely wrong. They bought a 49% stake in the hotel in return for a $250 million credit forgiveness and lower interest rates. All on public record as the deal was done as a prearranged be between all interested parties so deal terms are in the public domain Then they sold the hotel years later for $675m.


Ahahahahahahahaahahahahaha.
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Ooops. Dynamo is wrong again
I've never once been wrong around here and certainly never when it comes to rochard.


Look it up yourself.
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But you said you're voting Bernie as you attack Hillary and defend Trump?

You'll be a feisty fun little rascal in the sack but this political stuff isn't your bag. Just chill stud and focus on the porn.
Youre new to these threads so that explains why you're confused. Like liberal lynch mob, you confuse my defending reality as my defending Trump. You, like them, seem to not get that piling on Trump doesn't work and not only never has, completely backfires. Im not going to high 5 with liberals over a failed way to squash Trump.
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But you said you're voting Bernie as you attack Hillary and defend Trump?
Seemed kind of odd to me also. Bernie who?
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But you said you're voting Bernie as you attack Hillary and defend Trump?

You'll be a feisty fun little rascal in the sack but this political stuff isn't your bag. Just chill stud and focus on the porn.
funny. you dont want to be labeled in another thread. here you label others. you may be unaware there are centrists that have sympathies with both trump & sanders based on trade & not being establishment. the swing voters both parties drool for. but you stick to your little boxes.

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Entirely wrong. They bought a 49% stake in the hotel in return for a $250 million credit forgiveness and lower interest rates. All on public record as the deal was done as a prearranged be between all interested parties so deal terms are in the public domain Then they sold the hotel years later for $675m.


Ahahahahahahahaahahahahaha.
From NY Times archives


Trump Is Selling Plaza Hotel To Saudi and Asian Investors - NYTimes.com

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The buyers said yesterday that the deal put a total value of $325 million on the landmark hotel at 59th Street and Fifth Avenue near Central Park.

In essence, the buyers are taking over the Plaza by assuming most of its debts. None of the money from the deal will go to Mr. Trump, who acquired the hotel for about $400 million in 1988. Rather, it will go to banks in the United States that had lent money to Mr. Trump and to banks in Japan that hold a mortgage on the hotel property.
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As part of the deal, CDL and the Prince will pay down the outstanding debt on the hotel owed to the banks, reducing it to about $25 million from more than $300 million. According to people familiar with the transaction, that remaining $25 million will be converted into equity held by a bank consortium led by Citibank.

Under terms of an agreement reached late in 1992, that consortium agreed to forgive overdue interest payments on some $300 million in loans in return for a 49 percent stake in the Plaza.
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But lets get to Benghazi
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Youre new to these threads so that explains why you're confused. Like liberal lynch mob, you confuse my defending reality as my defending Trump. You, like them, seem to not get that piling on Trump doesn't work and not only never has, completely backfires. Im not going to high 5 with liberals over a failed way to squash Trump.
Sorry you're butthurt I'll go easy. You're a Trump supporter posing as a Berniebot.
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funny. you dont want to be labeled in another thread. here you label others. you may be unaware there are centrists that have sympathies with both trump & sanders based on trade & not being establishment. the swing voters both parties drool for. but you stick to your little boxes.

You're high.

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But lets get to Benghazi
Yes, let's have another investigation into Benghazi.
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successful people understand that failure is just part of business

throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks is a pretty good strategy for a venture capitalist. scale what works, discard what doesn't

failure is valuable. it's market research. i don't think trump is in the red overall, and that's what matters

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Trump is such a successful billionaire that he needed to screw people with next to nothing out of everything they had. Imagine if Warren Buffett did this shit. Trump is a disgusting piece of shit. This is the kind of crap people do when they are desperate for money, not when you're sitting on billions.

From the released court documents on one of the three class action lawsuits against him with Trump University.....

"Objection: I don't like using my credit cards and going into debt OR I just paid my credit cards off," the playbook explains in one hypothetical scenario.

The playbook then directs the Trump University rep to respond with the following script:

"I see, do you like living paycheck to paycheck? Do you like just getting by in life? Do you enjoy seeing everyone else but yourself in their dream house and driving their cars with huge checking accounts? Those people saw an opportunity, and didn't make excuses, like what you're doing now. Most wealthy people made their money in real estate and it usually started with a decision to get the knowledge and skills to be successful. You need to look at what this small investment will fix in your life. … You're here today because you're sick and tired of being sick and tired and you want to chance that — you're not alone. I'm going to help you take your first step to create the life you've dreamed of. Follow me and let's get you enrolled. Congratulations!"

In yet another section of the unsealed playbooks, coordinators are directed to deal harshly with uncertain potential students.

"You must be very aggressive…if they complain about the price, remind them that Trump is the BEST!" one suggested response reads.

The playbooks instruct salespeople to mention Trump by name in order to intimidate potential customers who are hesitant to spend thousands of dollars on a Trump University product. “Mr. Trump will not listen to excuses,” the playbook tells salespeople to say, “and neither will we.”

In another scenario, salespeople are instructed to berate potential customers, telling them, “You’ve had your entire adult life to accomplish your financial goals... and you’re not even close to where you need to be.”

But according to more than 5,000 former Trump University customers, it wasn’t their plans that were flawed — it was the Trump U. business model itself. Many of the former students now suing Trump say they were pressured into spending money they didn’t have on Trump University products.



In 2012, Ronald Schnackenberg, a former sales manager at Trump University, testified that he’d been “reprimanded for not pushing a financially struggling couple hard enough to sign up for a $35,000 real estate class,” even though he believed the class would do more financial harm than good for the couple, according to The New York Times.

“I believe that Trump University was a fraudulent scheme,” Schnackenberg wrote in his testimony, according to the Times, “and that it preyed upon the elderly and uneducated to separate them from their money.”

Schnackenberg’s 2012 deposition was made public on Tuesday.


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Quite an impressive list of business failures.
Launched: 1989...
Given that he started out with a million or so and that a billion = 1000 times a million and that he's worth multiples of billions now... I gotta figure that maybe some of his businesses didn't fail.

Of course, that's just my read of the numbers.
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Trump is a scumbag no doubt and a shoddy businessman at best outside of real estate it seems. But all of these failures helped build his brand as well over the years. This notoriety is obviously why he's in the running now for prez, etc.

Plus every smart businessman is going to fail a lot more times than they succeed. Part of the game.
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Well, first thing that currently comes to mind is his presidential run
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bullshit...here is a list of things you can do with 1 million $ in newyork real estate:
1)nothing
2) nuttin
3) nix
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Trump has said that when he graduated from college in 1968, he was worth about US$200,000 (equivalent to $1,021,000 in 2015).[35] At age 23, he made an unsuccessful commercial foray into show business, investing $70,000 to become co-producer of the 1970 Broadway comedy "Paris Is Out!", which flopped.[36] Trump began his real estate career at his father's company,[37] Elizabeth Trump and Son,[38] which focused on middle-class rental housing in the New York City boroughs of Brooklyn, Queens, and Staten Island. During his undergraduate study, one of Trump's first projects had been the revitalization of the foreclosed Swifton Village apartment complex in Cincinnati, Ohio, which his father had purchased for $5.7 million in 1962 (25million adjusted for 2015)



According to public records, Trump received a $302 New York tax rebate in 2013 (and in two other recent years) given to couples earning less than $500,000 per year, who submit as proof their federal tax returns.<-------LOL

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To be continued?

The are a few people that could buy and sell Trump on a bad day.

Try and not be afraid to fail when you can afford the risk in a calculated investment strategy is OK in business -- you can always bankrupt that new corporation that you set up
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Trump has said that when he graduated from college in 1968, he was worth about US$200,000 (equivalent to $1,021,000 in 2015).[35] At age 23, he made an unsuccessful commercial foray into show business, investing $70,000 to become co-producer of the 1970 Broadway comedy "Paris Is Out!", which flopped.[36] Trump began his real estate career at his father's company,[37] Elizabeth Trump and Son,[38] which focused on middle-class rental housing in the New York City boroughs of Brooklyn, Queens, and Staten Island. During his undergraduate study, one of Trump's first projects had been the revitalization of the foreclosed Swifton Village apartment complex in Cincinnati, Ohio, which his father had purchased for $5.7 million in 1962 (25million adjusted for 2015)



According to public records, Trump received a $302 New York tax rebate in 2013 (and in two other recent years) given to couples earning less than $500,000 per year, who submit as proof their federal tax returns.<-------LOL

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Trump's parents funded everything when he younger. Everything.

I am pretty confident that if my parents gave me tens of millions of dollars to invest before I was legal drinking age, I would be a billionaire too.
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Trump's parents funded everything when he younger. Everything.

I am pretty confident that if my parents gave me tens of millions of dollars to invest before I was legal drinking age, I would be a billionaire too.
thats not even close to what happened.
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As one writer put it "he was born on third base and acts like he hit a home run".

If you have an inheritance and daddy's safety net, you can make millions in the 80's real estate market. The fact that with all of that help, he still bankrupts companies and seems to have an aimless business strategy with no real connection to anything except "slapping his name on stuff" shows what a sham he is.
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As one writer put it "he was born on third base and acts like he hit a home run".

If you have an inheritance and daddy's safety net, you can make millions in the 80's real estate market. The fact that with all of that help, he still bankrupts companies and seems to have an aimless business strategy with no real connection to anything except "slapping his name on stuff" shows what a sham he is.
yes, society's bottom often makes that claim. once you look at the claimants background, the source of the bitterness becomes clear.
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Trump's parents funded everything when he younger. Everything.

I am pretty confident that if my parents gave me tens of millions of dollars to invest before I was legal drinking age, I would be a billionaire too.
How do you explain the fact none of the 7+ figures lottery winners ever created billion+ empires? How many from this industry who over the years sold out for 7+ figures did anything noteworthy with that $$?

Ponder why that is the case... they are all idiots? you on the other hand are a brilliant businessman? so things would play out different for you?

the reason is simple, starting/operating a successful large scale business is much harder than operating a small one, not easier... so turning 1M to 1B, is much more difficult, than turning 1k to 1M, not easier like you guys think...
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Here is the thing about being an entrepreneur. If some of your businesses or investments don't fail, then you aren't doing enough of them. How many businesses have Bernie and Hillary started? If you want business acumen, and you don't think Trump measures up, then you need to stay home.
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Here is the thing about being an entrepreneur. If some of your businesses or investments don't fail, then you aren't doing enough of them. How many businesses have Bernie and Hillary started? If you want business acumen, and you don't think Trump measures up, then you need to stay home.
It's not about businesses failing with Trump, as much as it's about toxic corruption and being overleveraged.

After his antitrust convictions under the Reagan administration a lot of legitmate businesses saw him as a procedural liability and stopped doing business with him, he went bankrupt for the first time 3 years later.

He has a long fucked up business & legal history, not the typical doing good business bumpy road.
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It's not about businesses failing with Trump, as much as it's about toxic corruption and being overleveraged.

After his antitrust convictions under the Reagan administration a lot of legitmate businesses saw him as a procedural liability and stopped doing business with him, he went bankrupt for the first time 3 years later.

He has a long fucked up business & legal history, not the typical doing good business bumpy road.
trump settled 1 anti-trust suit that was nothing more than two interpretations of a rulein evolving puts and calls. calling it "convictions" is silly and inaccurate.

http://www.americanbar.org/content/d...thcheckdam.pdf
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Seemed kind of odd to me also. Bernie who?
a fucking quote is weird to you too. <- loloing my fucking ass off at you.


nevertheless, i couldn't give 1 single fuck that you can't grasp complex thought processes.
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It's not about businesses failing with Trump, as much as it's about toxic corruption and being overleveraged.

After his antitrust convictions under the Reagan administration a lot of legitmate businesses saw him as a procedural liability and stopped doing business with him, he went bankrupt for the first time 3 years later.

He has a long fucked up business & legal history, not the typical doing good business bumpy road.
I hear people that have never done business with him saying stuff like this. I wonder why all the people he has ripped off in business aren't coming out of the wood work? We need someone with integrity like Hillary I guess. No reason to wait for her corruption investigations to end to know she is honest. I like Bernie, but if you are going to run a country you need to have had a job at some point imo.
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Trump Is Selling Plaza Hotel To Saudi and Asian Investors - NYTimes.com





Ahahahahahahahaahahahahaha Ahahahahahahahaahahahahaha Ahahahahahahahaahahahahaha


But lets get to Benghazi
that's what i posted. he sold 49% in return for a credit of $250m and lower interest rates. benghazi is a small part of hillary's criminal activities being investigated by the FBI
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Sorry you're butthurt I'll go easy. You're a Trump supporter posing as a Berniebot.
why would you go easy? i don't. this is gofuckyourself, which i urge you to go do.

like that brainiac libtard logic reject bronco67 Esq, you're confused by complex thinking.

it's absolutely impossible for you to understand that someone can support Sanders and still embrace the reality of a trump.
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I am pretty confident that if my parents gave me tens of millions of dollars to invest before I was legal drinking age, I would be a billionaire too.

steve lightspeed would laugh his fucking ass off for days and days if he read this.
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His grandfather's prostitution business was a success. He ran successful brothels, the profits from which were invested by Trump's father to start the real estate biz. Google it
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Trump's parents funded everything when he younger. Everything.

I am pretty confident that if my parents gave me tens of millions of dollars to invest before I was legal drinking age, I would be a billionaire too.
the only thing trump did right IMO is not become a druggie or drunk like most rich kids...he did not go emo or goth either, he went to college and got a job...kudos to him for that...but that is the end of his achievements as far as I am concerned...
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I hear people that have never done business with him saying stuff like this. I wonder why all the people he has ripped off in business aren't coming out of the wood work? We need someone with integrity like Hillary I guess. No reason to wait for her corruption investigations to end to know she is honest. I like Bernie, but if you are going to run a country you need to have had a job at some point imo.
First off, my views on Trump have NOTHING to do with politics. I've voted both ways and was gonna vote Romney or hold my nose for Rubio, then down the road Trump started resonating so I started researching him and quickly was turned off, too much corruption and ego. ON a side note, when Trump sues a comedian for calling his mother an Oranguntan in a joke, and loses, you know they don't have the temperment for POTUS.

I'll hold my nose for Hillary, Bernie is in lala land with all his freebies.
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First off, my views on Trump have NOTHING to do with politics. I've voted both ways and was gonna vote Romney or hold my nose for Rubio, then down the road Trump started resonating so I started researching him and quickly was turned off, too much corruption and ego. ON a side note, when Trump sues a comedian for calling his mother an Oranguntan in a joke, and loses, you know they don't have the temperment for POTUS.

I'll hold my nose for Hillary, Bernie is in lala land with all his freebies.
When you read Trump's books you understand his lawsuit against Bill Maher. His Philosophy is when someone tries to hurt you, you go after them with everything. It makes other people know not to go after you. He knew he wouldn't win a case against a comedian for a joke, but he wanted him to think twice next time he wanted to attack him. Ask Rosie O'donell if you should shoot your mouth off about a billionaire. I like the concept. And if you don't like corruption, you really need to hold your nose hard for Hillary. Bernie isn't going to win, it is already fixed for her. Corruption.
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