Question to people from the UK (Brexit)

I'd be voting out..... the UK will take no more than 2 years to rebalance.

It is very broken. Immigration has been a hot topic for well over a decade and its a complete waste of debate.

Quality is what matters, not quantity.

I have 2 kids, and voting on eu or not will make not 1 single bit of difference to me nor them, nor will being in or out of it... people are fucking deluded if they think otherwise. It's my 'duty' to vote my ass... and read my post again, your questions about whether I have kids or give a damn about other people is clearly stated. I don't tell anyone not to vote, so fuck anyone who tells me it's some kind of 'duty' for me to vote holy shit people still fall for that old line and/or believe the 'reasons' for it? It's a feel-good action, no more no less. I do more to save the planet by throwing my litter in a trash can than I ever could by voting (voting how YOU would like me to vote no doubt). I may fucking vote to stay in just down to the idiocy in this thread. I agree with almost all your posts on here, but you're so wide of any factual mark in this one it's not funny. Well actually it is. And fuck voting, I'd sooner have a wank.

As for immigration... you're all on drugs if you think the UK exiting the EU will have any real impact... the problem is a lot closer to home than the EU... and even then fuck all will change no matter who is in. But waste energy getting enraged about how terrible it all is and thinking your vote means anything more than jack shit

like tubes, politicians won... get over it, and use it all to your advantage.

So you actually think if we took 2 parallel universes: 1 with exit and 1 with staying - everything would be exactly the same? You are delusional if so.

If you say that it won't be exactly the same, simple example.
nico-t talked about rapes. Lets say with staying you get 1.000.000 new muslim invaders per certain amount of time. With exit you may get "only" 900.000 new muslim invaders per same amount of time.
What does it mean in terms of rapes? Less chances to get raped for all the females (including yours).
So here is very random example of how it affect you and your kids.
And this is just one single perspective, there are lots of them.

Gee, let me also make up a load of fictional scenarios, put "let's say" in front of them, and ask you if they would or wouldn't happen if we guessed at different paths which haven't been taken yet.

You learn that trick at the markham school of 'here's what tube sites earn'?

I'm telling you that my life, and my kids lives, will be exactly the same, I haven't explored the realms of fantasy land where muslims invaders go on a rape spree in some shithole area I or any of my family will never live in, due to us doing the shit we need to, to make sure that never happens.

Unlike all the 'businessmen' on this board, I go by the principle that I should always try and better myself and my personal situation, rather than spend my time fretting about some khazi in east london that went to shit 20 years ago. Just like I don't spend my time worrying about not eating, or not having any water, despite the fact that on planet earth, which I share with my fellow humans, people in 2016 starve to death, or the fact in 2016 there are involuntary homeless people in the UK.

Sure, it sucks, but I don't help the problem by getting on a high horse and claiming it's people's 'duty' to "vote for change! we *can* make a difference!" What utter horseshit. Are you 15? How anyone with any experience of life for the last 20 years can think voting does anything other than give schools a day off is baffling.

Here's a prediction: if the UK votes out of the EU, in 5 years time people will be saying the exact same thing as they are now, except it'll be the tories' fault, or labour's fault, or the local council's fault, or the legacy of the EU's fault, or 'insert 101 somebody-elses here' fault that things in their own world aren't exactly as they would like them to be. Bookmark this post

you know what, this thread epitomises the mindset of the so-called businessmen here today. Everything is a wall, everything is a what if this, what if that, let's say that this might happen (followed by random scenarios) - someone else is making me xyz. I'm not saying walls aren't real, but fuck... go over it, go round it, dig under it, but get past it without crying wah-wah there's a wall stopping me. Nobody is going to GIVE you what you WANT because 50% of the world want abc and the other 50% want xyz, and that's just the most general things... instead of trying to change the rest of the world to fit what you want, change your fucking self so you go GET what you want.

Agree. The problem with migration is ideological. The UK has become so PC it's afraid to stop mass migration of fear of being called racist. Which implies most migrants who have low skills or need benefits or a different colour.

As for no effect on your children. Unless they can earn 6 figures, odds on they will not own their own home, pay a high rent and will find it harder to get a job with a decent wage.

This is how stupidly PC it has become.

EU referendum: Corbyn urged to be 'bolder and braver' in making case for immigration | Politics | The Guardian

We now have the represents of the working classes, being told that they have to suck up what has reduced their living standard. And accept it will get worse.

As for Unions, they've become less powerful due to mass migration.

No it will not. In 20 years at the present rate of power. The EU will be the Government of the UK or the UK will be sidelined. The power balance of the EU will favour Germany and the smaller nations. The UK will be out-voted every time.

I suggest you research the facts. Such as foreigners, Muslims, Migrants, second generation migrants. In prison.

Especially Muslims in prison for sex crimes. Do it on percentiles. Of course, you don't know where your children will live, find a job, or where migrants will decide to live. Try doing some exploring.

So fucking what? My life will be exactly the same: earning a living, aiming to better myself and my then current situation, moving if necessary, changing careers if necessary, overcoming any obstacles as necessary... exactly like it has been for the last 20 years. The world might be different (just as it is now from 20 years ago), but seems people aren't grasping that just like everyone else, I've adapted as needed. That is a given, and won't suddenly become unnecessary just because we are either in or out of the EU... and let's not forget according to the other side, all this disastrous shit would happen should we leave. Again, the world would change - sometimes for better, sometimes worse, but *my* situation in as far as my 2nd sentence here will remain.



who gives a fuck that the prison system is full of rapists, murderers, and thieves? Do you really think there is any kind of good chance that outside of some shithole, females have a good chance of being raped? murdered? These crimes will suddenly stop and that the chances go from 0.001% to 0.0001%? That immigration will stop entirely... is that what people think is going to happen... surely they aren't that fucking dumb?

My kids.. I know they won't be living in a shithole, or scrabbling around looking for a job at a drive-thru, and I instil in them the same principles of: if you are in a situation you don't like, do what you need to, to get out of that situation... whether it's a relationship, a job, a place, a shitty friendship, whatever. The only duty here is the one you owe yourself to change any situation you don't like by getting off your ass and doing something about it, not waiting around thinking the fucking government, of all things, is going to do any damn thing at all for you. They never have, and they never will - their bottom line is how much cash they can get out of you, and what carrots they can dangle to stay in, or get in, power.

Posting in this thread is now as futile an exercise in real terms as voting, so adios, and good luck everyone on making an actual 'change' in your lives by putting an X on a ballot paper

well, I get that it is a joke

Latvia had to fight the battle of its own to get out of Russia (who was hiding behind a brand USSR) and we all understand how important it is to feel independent (even though that is utopia in this global era).

+ Latvians aren't really afraid of consequences what happens after.. and even in the worst scenario - we are just 48hours drive away from home.

personally I support this desire even though it might be an economical suicide, but that is a different topic

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