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Fletch XXX · 03-26-2003, 08:41 PM

Anyone else see a difference or is it me?

http://www.adultplatinum.com
http://adultplatinum.com

Fletch XXX · 03-26-2003, 08:46 PM

Here's what I get.

<img src=http://www.overmindesign.com/images/adult1.gif border="1">

<img src=http://www.overmindesign.com/images/adult2.gif border="1">

The reason I ask is because i notice Google also indexes the different urls with or without the 'www' and places them differently within the results and also with a diferent page rank.

just trying to figure it out.

candyflip · 03-26-2003, 08:48 PM

I've seen that before, but in this case...they both open to the same page for me.

03-26-2003, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by candyflip
I've seen that before, but in this case...they both open to the same page for me.

same here!

Fletch XXX · 03-26-2003, 08:50 PM

not me, i have computers in the same room I am in that sees it the same too, but this machine shows 2 different pages.

no fucking clue and im past trying to figure it out, thought id ask.

*bowl*

BRISK · 03-26-2003, 08:53 PM

I don't like it when people write their domain as http://domain.com it just bugs me.

www.domain.com looks so much better.

I bet most people (besides webmasters) couldn't even tell you what http stands for.

lamrobertson · 03-26-2003, 08:54 PM

hmmm

I get the same page on both.

Dawgy · 03-26-2003, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
Anyone else see a difference or is it me?

http://www.adultplatinum.com
http://adultplatinum.com

it depends on how the httpd config file is setup. you could point www.adultplatinum.com at anything u want, same for without the www... or with somethingelse.adultplatinum.com ...

now as to why its setup that way... only Lens could tell us

Fletch XXX · 03-26-2003, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BRISK
I don't like it when people write their domain as http://domain.com it just bugs me.

www.domain.com looks so much better.

I bet most people (besides webmasters) couldn't even tell you what http stands for.

i hit some domains sometime that do not load at all unless you put the 'www' and i just dont get it.

some do some dont, and now some load a different page for different people!

hahah

MattO · 03-26-2003, 08:57 PM

The www.whatever.com has just been standardized to default as whatever.com as a best practice. Some people don't do it, for some reason, although it's generally what you should do. You can have lots of other subs for other stuff if you need to.
I don't know if that makes sense, I'm pretty doped up on cold medicine.

Fletch XXX · 03-26-2003, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dawgy

it depends on how the httpd config file is setup. you could point www.adultplatinum.com at anything u want, same for without the www... or with somethingelse.adultplatinum.com ...

now as to why its setup that way... only Lens could tell us

okay, I understand that.

But tell me why it works differently for different folk?

SpaceAce · 03-26-2003, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
not me, i have computers in the same room I am in that sees it the same too, but this machine shows 2 different pages.

no fucking clue and im past trying to figure it out, thought id ask.

*bowl*

My guess would be that your browser (or proxy) is not forwarding the proper host name. For instance, some virtual servers use a host_name environment variable (whose exact name escapes me right now) to determine which vserver should answer the request. It isn't always enough to have www. or stats. in the URL bar, the browser has to tell the server the request is for "stats.domain.com".

I've had this problem when writing content-fetching programs. If you want, I can look in my code and figure out exactly which variable it is.

Edit: this pops up especially often on servers like Zeus which have really cool subdomain handling.

SpaceAce

P.S. - this is pure guessing. I get the same page at both URLs.

SpaceAce

BV · 03-26-2003, 09:05 PM

Address (A) Record

QualityMpegs · 03-26-2003, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SpaceAce

SpaceAce

heh...i like the iraqi body count banner!

SpaceAce · 03-26-2003, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by QualityMpegs

heh...i like the iraqi body count banner!

Well, it isn't supposed to be an anti-Iraq thing. Just a little reaity check for people who think we're over there to kill civilians.

SpaceAce

Mutt · 03-26-2003, 10:18 PM

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Briscoe · 03-26-2003, 10:35 PM

Its actually an Apache setting.

ServerName www.domain.com
ServerAlias www.domain.com domain.com

The 'www.domain.com' can be a totally different sub-domain of 'domain.com' if you want it to.

fnet · 03-27-2003, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BV
Address (A) Record

Yes.

You can set this with dynamic dns, which is becoming common.

I think that's the info you're trying to track down.

You can also configure apache (or other webservers), or even squid, to serve a different root depending on the prefix.

Google is literal about anchor url strings... it's annoying. Particularly when you're tracing backlinks.

Neff · 03-27-2003, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by fnet

Yes.

You can set this with dynamic dns, which is becoming common.

I think that's the info you're trying to track down.

You can also configure apache (or other webservers), or even squid, to serve a different root depending on the prefix.

Google is literal about anchor url strings... it's annoying. Particularly when you're tracing backlinks.

Exact

Just

- It is good form when your URL works either www and w/o www. Sometimes it is very funny to find backoffice site - which is very often w/o www

BV · 03-27-2003, 08:34 AM

I was surprized that most people on the boards last night did not know the answer.

gothweb · 03-27-2003, 08:44 AM

www is an arbitrary thing. Its supposed to represent that its the web server on the network, as opposed to a personal machine, mail, etc. These days, though a server farm can all be www., and a virtual account can have www., ftp., etc... Personally, I think "www" is stupid. It takes longer to say than "world wide web", for christ's sake!

http://ian-x.com
is much simpler than
http://www.ian-x.com
and the www doesn't add anything

BV · 03-27-2003, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gothweb
www is an arbitrary thing. Its supposed to represent that its the web server on the network, as opposed to a personal machine, mail, etc. These days, though a server farm can all be www., and a virtual account can have www., ftp., etc... Personally, I think "www" is stupid. It takes longer to say than "world wide web", for christ's sake!

http://ian-x.com
is much simpler than
http://www.ian-x.com
and the www doesn't add anything

That's because your admin has an address (A) record configured in your DNS as described in the above posts.

Gemini · 03-27-2003, 09:01 AM

i hit some domains sometime that do not load at all unless you put the 'www' and i just dont get it.

We used to call that 'wildcarding' (the server), 'enabling the wildcards' etc. Its all in the httpd aliasing like someone else said. Surfers used to forget the www all the time so you lost traffic.

Its handy to use if you hand code... when you are setting links for your own sites, thats 4 less keystrokes in your code. ANd surfers still forget 'www' when they get a link from someone at work.

Reak · 03-27-2003, 09:18 AM

Kinda weird shit

I get 2 different pages 2

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