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hyper · 03-26-2003, 07:16 PM

the company that Dick Cheney used to be part owner of has been awarded a lucrative contract to extinguish the Iraqi oil Fires.

and they said it wasnt about the oil

Amputate Your Head · 03-26-2003, 07:17 PM

good for them!!! Should bring tons of $$$$ to their company.

Sly_RJ · 03-26-2003, 07:18 PM

Yep. I've also heard there are only about two companies qualified to extinguish the fires.

Although I don't know for sure.

FATPad · 03-26-2003, 07:20 PM

Just curious because I really don't know this.

How many companies are there that can put out oil well fires like these?

Out of all the companies that can do it, why isn't this one best qualified?

Amputate Your Head · 03-26-2003, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hyper
the company that Dick Cheney used to be part owner of has been awarded a lucrative contract to extinguish the Iraqi oil Fires.

and they said it wasnt about the oil

get a clue.

1. We didn't set them on fire.
2. Even IF it was about oil, and especially if it was about oil, why the fuck would we set them on fire?
3. As Sly said, there are an extremely limited number of people that can actually put those things out. You think you can just send the local fucking fire department?
4. Stop being stupid.

MrPopup · 03-26-2003, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

get a clue.

4. Stop being stupid.

If you question Americans you are stupid.

FATPad · 03-26-2003, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPopup

If you question Americans you are stupid.

I wish someone smart would answer my two simple questions. *sigh*

Sly_RJ · 03-26-2003, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
Yep. I've also heard there are only about two companies qualified to extinguish the fires.

Although I don't know for sure.

Assuming this is true, I suppose Haliburton should automatically be disqualified from government bids simply because Cheney was VP at one time.

Right?

rooster · 03-26-2003, 07:25 PM

and Bush can never buy a ticket for a Texas Rangers game I suppose

Amputate Your Head · 03-26-2003, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPopup

If you question Americans you are stupid.

usually...

more often, if you question common sense you begin asking dumb shit.

hyper · 03-26-2003, 08:22 PM

im sure there are plenty of qualified companies besides haliburton that can extinguish fires

Amp i have never ever said anything to you when you were having your numerous problems, nor have i called you stupid or anything of that nature.

so you can apologize to me now
it's not stupid.. its the good ole boy network once again

Sly_RJ · 03-26-2003, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hyper
im sure there are plenty of qualified companies besides haliburton that can extinguish fires

Amp i have never ever said anything to you when you were having your numerous problems, nor have i called you stupid or anything of that nature.

so you can apologize to me now
it's not stupid.. its the good ole boy network once again

Quote:

Originally posted by fletcher
Normally I'd fully agree with you...but I do have to say Haliburton is the best company for the job and it's been known for months that they'd be getting this contract. Also, another Houston company called Boots and Coots has been subcontracted by Haliburton to do the actual dirty work of putting the fires out. You can count the number of companies on one hand that do this kind of work, so I think in this case it's just a conincidence. Haliburton also played a huge role in the Gulf War cleanup.

Plus when Boots and Coots went from $.51 to $2.50 briefly last week, that was nice

hyper · 03-26-2003, 08:33 PM

Oil fire contract uproar
From correspondents in Washington
March 27, 2003

THE United States army came under fire today for granting an Iraqi oilwell firefighting contract to a subsidiary of Halliburton Co, once run by Vice President Dick Cheney, without a bidding process.

Henry Waxman, the senior Democrat in the House of Representatives' government reform committee, demanded an explanation in a letter to Army Corps of Engineers Lieutenant General Robert Flowers.

"I am writing to inquire why the administration entered into a contract potentially worth tens of millions of dollars to a subsidiary of Halliburton without any competition or even notice to Congress," he said.

"The contract ? to extinguish oil well fires in Iraq ? has no set time limit and no dollar limit and is apparently structured in such a way as to encourage the contractor to increase its costs and, consequently, the costs to the taxpayer."

The Army Corps of Engineers said Tuesday the contract had been given to Halliburton subsidiary Kellogg, Brown and Root (KBR) without being put out to tender.

KBR had already been asked by the Pentagon to draw up plans for extinguishing oil well fires in Iraq, Corps spokesman Lieutenant Colonel Gene Pawlik said.

"It made the most sense to engage them in the near term as the company to get the mission done because they were familiar with the details of the fires themselves and what would be needed," he said.

The value of the contract would depend on the scale of the work.

KBR would claim the cost of its services plus two to five percent depending on how it executed the job, Pawlik said.

"This type of contract is generally discouraged in the executive branch because it provides the contractor with an incentive to increase its profits by increasing the costs to the taxpayer," Waxman said.

The contract was particularly troubling because the government oversight office, the General Accounting Office, had previously raised concerns about the army's ability to monitor costs at KBR, he said.

The only rationale for delivering the contract to KBR appeared to be that KBR had drawn up a plan for fighting the fires, Waxman added.

"Why did the administration fail to provide an opportunity for other companies to bid on this contract?" he asked

"When Kellogg, Brown and Root was asked by the army to develop a contingency plan for extinguishing oil well fires in Iraq in November 2002, were any other companies asked to develop similar plans? If not, why not?"

Waxman asked why the contract was not announced until two weeks after it had been awarded on March 8.

He requested an answer by April 4.

playa · 03-26-2003, 08:36 PM

Holy shit thats fucked up

the fair thing would of been to give the contract to the French

bhutocracy · 03-26-2003, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Assuming this is true, I suppose Haliburton should automatically be disqualified from government bids simply because Cheney was VP at one time.

Right?

noone else even got the chance to bid on it. Meaning that without the competition from an open market US taxpayers have been fucked by not getting the chance to get a better price.

hyper · 03-26-2003, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Assuming this is true, I suppose Haliburton should automatically be disqualified from government bids simply because Cheney was VP at one time.

Right?

they are allowed to bid on the project because cheney divested himself of any further monetary rewards on the books.

however there was no bidding process

KRL · 03-26-2003, 08:53 PM

$ God Bless America $

We got the money! We got the money!

Roses are red, violets are blue,
We stole the Oil, So fuck you!

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hyper Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mass Ass Posts: 5,294	Oil fire contract uproar From correspondents in Washington March 27, 2003 THE United States army came under fire today for granting an Iraqi oilwell firefighting contract to a subsidiary of Halliburton Co, once run by Vice President Dick Cheney, without a bidding process. Henry Waxman, the senior Democrat in the House of Representatives' government reform committee, demanded an explanation in a letter to Army Corps of Engineers Lieutenant General Robert Flowers. "I am writing to inquire why the administration entered into a contract potentially worth tens of millions of dollars to a subsidiary of Halliburton without any competition or even notice to Congress," he said. "The contract ? to extinguish oil well fires in Iraq ? has no set time limit and no dollar limit and is apparently structured in such a way as to encourage the contractor to increase its costs and, consequently, the costs to the taxpayer." The Army Corps of Engineers said Tuesday the contract had been given to Halliburton subsidiary Kellogg, Brown and Root (KBR) without being put out to tender. KBR had already been asked by the Pentagon to draw up plans for extinguishing oil well fires in Iraq, Corps spokesman Lieutenant Colonel Gene Pawlik said. "It made the most sense to engage them in the near term as the company to get the mission done because they were familiar with the details of the fires themselves and what would be needed," he said. The value of the contract would depend on the scale of the work. KBR would claim the cost of its services plus two to five percent depending on how it executed the job, Pawlik said. "This type of contract is generally discouraged in the executive branch because it provides the contractor with an incentive to increase its profits by increasing the costs to the taxpayer," Waxman said. The contract was particularly troubling because the government oversight office, the General Accounting Office, had previously raised concerns about the army's ability to monitor costs at KBR, he said. The only rationale for delivering the contract to KBR appeared to be that KBR had drawn up a plan for fighting the fires, Waxman added. "Why did the administration fail to provide an opportunity for other companies to bid on this contract?" he asked "When Kellogg, Brown and Root was asked by the army to develop a contingency plan for extinguishing oil well fires in Iraq in November 2002, were any other companies asked to develop similar plans? If not, why not?" Waxman asked why the contract was not announced until two weeks after it had been awarded on March 8. He requested an answer by April 4. __________________

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