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BlackCrayon 05-18-2016 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20902298)
This is why the planet will undergo a huge climate change, killing 99.999% of humans. Saving more would mean people living a little less affluently.

When plants and the herbivores that feed off them are dying. Food will skyrocket in price. Water will either be up to our necks because the ice caps have melted or as scarce as fine wine and cost as much.

All because it costs too much to go green or build huge safe guards. .

lol a little less affluently? you do realize poor people need electricity too. i know people who work for ontario welfare and they constantly have people calling who can't pay their bills and need the government to bail them out. this will only make it worse. most people live paycheck to paycheck and are not affluent.

Paul Markham 05-18-2016 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 20902571)
lol a little less affluently? you do realize poor people need electricity too. i know people who work for ontario welfare and they constantly have people calling who can't pay their bills and need the government to bail them out. this will only make it worse. most people live paycheck to paycheck and are not affluent.

You're missing the point. Poor people, the ill, infirm, etc. Are Fucked.

The world is doing what it has done for the last billion or so years. It's evolving and changing its climate.

It was only due to climate change that we humans evolved, walked out of Africa, don't compete with Neanderthals, see sabre tooth tigers, giant sloths, megafauna, etc. Roaming the countryside. Read this.

It's already happening now.

Water has to be the key element, assuming we don't gas ourselves to death first. Should that drop too low, crops fail people die in millions or billions? Should it rise too high, fields are swamped.

Can 7 billion survive that? NO.

Can some live off the sea? Yes, but only a select few. Which I'm sure is already being planned for the very rich and powerful.

I give it 100 years before the shit that's hitting the fan now starts to bounce back.

Now everyone can keep debating whether they will be able to afford to fill a gas guzzler, or keep the heating on.

Klen 05-18-2016 05:04 AM

It is already bouncing back, as i dont remember seeing snow ever in late may in 31 years of my life.

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20902616)
You're missing the point. Poor people, the ill, infirm, etc. Are Fucked.

The world is doing what it has done for the last billion or so years. It's evolving and changing its climate.

It was only due to climate change that we humans evolved, walked out of Africa, don't compete with Neanderthals, see sabre tooth tigers, giant sloths, megafauna, etc. Roaming the countryside. Read this.

It's already happening now.

Water has to be the key element, assuming we don't gas ourselves to death first. Should that drop too low, crops fail people die in millions or billions? Should it rise too high, fields are swamped.

Can 7 billion survive that? NO.

Can some live off the sea? Yes, but only a select few. Which I'm sure is already being planned for the very rich and powerful.

I give it 100 years before the shit that's hitting the fan now starts to bounce back.

Now everyone can keep debating whether they will be able to afford to fill a gas guzzler, or keep the heating on.


BlackCrayon 05-18-2016 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20902616)
You're missing the point. Poor people, the ill, infirm, etc. Are Fucked.

The world is doing what it has done for the last billion or so years. It's evolving and changing its climate.

It was only due to climate change that we humans evolved, walked out of Africa, don't compete with Neanderthals, see sabre tooth tigers, giant sloths, megafauna, etc. Roaming the countryside. Read this.

It's already happening now.

Water has to be the key element, assuming we don't gas ourselves to death first. Should that drop too low, crops fail people die in millions or billions? Should it rise too high, fields are swamped.

Can 7 billion survive that? NO.

Can some live off the sea? Yes, but only a select few. Which I'm sure is already being planned for the very rich and powerful.

I give it 100 years before the shit that's hitting the fan now starts to bounce back.

Now everyone can keep debating whether they will be able to afford to fill a gas guzzler, or keep the heating on.

i agree that it *could* happen but in the timeline you are talking about 100 years is nothing. it could easily be 1000-5000 years before anything major happens that will really take a chunk of the population out. regardless, this kind of climate change is really completely out of our control. sure we can do things that *might* slow it down but the reality is the earth is going to do what its going to do with or without us. for now im focused on the near future rather than that may happen in the distant.

Paul Markham 05-18-2016 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth (Post 20902640)
What's your point?

Electricity bills will be the last of your problems. Affording food will come top of the list. In 2216.

Until then keep worrying about minor issues of fuel costs going up to slow down the process. By a few days.

People. This isn't something that can be stopped. It can be slowed down, we can even prepare for it. The costs are going to be huge. And probably more than most can afford.

https://www.google.cz/webhp?hl=en&gw...d+water+crisis

This is just the start. The problem is climate change and population increases. As I said give it 100 years. The younger ones will see it going pear shaped in 50 years.


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