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Old 05-12-2016, 12:19 PM   #1
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Trump army, what with Donny hiding hix tax returns?

And not just last year, but every other tax return he filed.
Whats your conspiracy theory? You'd think after chasing Obama on twitter with "birth certificate" posts orange face would be transparent about his life.
Or this could be another "Trump donations" fiasco for clown shoes?!
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Because he's lying about his net worth just like he's lying about being under audit. Just like he lied about self funding his campaign.

He claims he's worth $11 billion and can't spend a billion to self fund? He doesnt have a billion.


Trump Decides He's Not Rich Enough to Self-Fund His Campaign
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Classic Donald Trump behavior..
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what do you mean by hide? it's private infos.
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There is no law requiring public disclosure of tax return data of candidates for public office.

"If you cannot get rid of the family skeleton, you may as well make it dance." George Bernard Shaw
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Trump on Romney giving his returns:

VAN SUSTEREN: Your prediction on South Carolina?

TRUMP: It's going to be very close. I think Mitt was hurt really very badly by this whole thing with the income tax returns. I believe he should have given them April 1, but I didn't think going into a little bit of detail without going into a lot of detail was positive thing. He'll come back. He has proven to be very resilient guy. He has been hurt a number of times by number of different things, he comes back. He really seems to be very tough and resilient. You have to hand it to him.

And Newt is just great. Every time there is a debate he does so well. You have to give him a lot credit for that.

VAN SUSTEREN: Has Governor Romney been boxed on this tax return thing, and if he called you up tonight and said, Donald what should I do about tax return thing, should I release them or not?

TRUMP: I think first answer would have been good. It should have been delivered a certain way. But April 1st historically is the time that everybody gives them.


Trump to GOP: Stop playing into President Obama's hands | Fox News


And then there's this...

Uh Oh: Trump Named In The Panama Papers 3,540 Times!
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There is no law requiring public disclosure of tax return data of candidates for public office.

"If you cannot get rid of the family skeleton, you may as well make it dance." George Bernard Shaw
Yes, but, he'll be the first presidential candidate to not hand out his tax information since 1976.
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Yes, but, he'll be the first presidential candidate to not hand out his tax information since 1976.
what's new? he's the first presidential candidate to do a lot of things different. that's why he's winning.


it's important to take Trump seriously or we'll all be standing around going WTFF Nov. 9th.
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It's very obvious what he is hiding.

He hasn't done anything illegal, but he's spent his entire life playing a shell game with the IRS trying to pay as little taxes as problem. Nothing wrong with that, but it's going to look horrible in the public eye.

Imagine having a detailed record of Trump's taxes. Take Trump University as an example. Trump made $X from it, but he is constantly being dragged into court over it. Stuff like this will be nearly unlimited ammo for his haters.

Also, he is most likely trying to make it look like he is worth a lot less than he claims he is in public. Seeing his tax records would make him look like he makes less or is worth less than he claims, making him look like a liar.

My guess is he'll have to release his tax forms. All Hillary will need to say is "What is he hiding by not releasing his tax forms" a few times, and it will make him look like he is hiding something.
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let's let the IRS do the auditing. which they currently are. that's what they do. and they've done it plenty of times with Trump.
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As others have said, I would guess his tax returns are going to show he isn't worth nearly as much as he says he is. I don't know if that will hurt him in the election, but it would be embarrassing to him and it also could cause him to spend a lot of time defending himself and how much he is worth.
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There is no law requiring public disclosure of tax return data of candidates for public office.

"If you cannot get rid of the family skeleton, you may as well make it dance." George Bernard Shaw
But come on. So many twits about Obamas certificate, Mitt showed his returns, evil Hillary did to. Don't you want to put all speculations aside and just do it? No ?
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what's new? he's the first presidential candidate to do a lot of things different. that's why he's winning.


it's important to take Trump seriously or we'll all be standing around going WTFF Nov. 9th.
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let's let the IRS do the auditing. which they currently are. that's what they do. and they've done it plenty of times with Trump.
They are not auditing his 2013, 2012, 2011 or 2010 returns. So why not?
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Trump army, what with Donny hiding hix tax returns?!
Scared to lose your EBT card?
Anti-Trump marshmallows are all the same... they circle the toilet and honk like Geese!

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Revenue vs Income

Trump touted being worth over 312 Billion when in fact he is probably worth 1/3 of that.

Good article in fortune today:

Why Donald Trump's Tax Returns May Prove He's Not That Rich - Fortune
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Because he's lying about his net worth just like he's lying about being under audit. Just like he lied about self funding his campaign.

He claims he's worth $11 billion and can't spend a billion to self fund? He doesnt have a billion.


Trump Decides He's Not Rich Enough to Self-Fund His Campaign
Still he lies less than a politican and isn't a war criminal.
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I really don't care what he has to hide, after the first debate his popularity will stand at 30% max.
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I really don't care what he has to hide, after the first debate his popularity will stand at 30% max.
So that means you think Hillary will win it all. And how is that a good thing? Do you prefer a war criminal, corrupt to the core, puppet of the establishment? Quite weird to prefer a 100% evil puppet like that over Trump, or anyone for that matter. But hey sometimes people are somewhat sadomasochistic.
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Trump released his tax returns from 2000 - 2004, while under audit, to officials in PA & NJ in a bid for casino licenses. But he's refusing to release even those same old returns now.

There's a great detailed article about this issue here.

Releasing tax returns is a part of the presidential vetting process. Nixon even did it WHILE UNDER AUDIT. Trump is hiding something big, other than the fact that he's so dodgy that he's audited every year for decades now.
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Wow what a disaster. Meanwhile Hillary is a proven war criminal and under FBI investigation.

What's worse: Bombing citizens to death or not paying your taxes?

FYI: The government will have a different opinion than you.
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Still he lies less than a politican and isn't a war criminal.
Every stance he's made he's backing down from now including Muslims, taxes & mexicans. He can't be trusted.
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Every stance he's made he's backing down from now including Muslims, taxes & mexicans. He can't be trusted.
Hillary can?

I would choose a 1000 Trumps over any corrupt career politicians.
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I would choose a 1000 Trumps over any corrupt career politicians.
Not voting for a guy who says no Muslims entering the country, and now says "It was just a suggestion", same with the border wall & minimum wage. Trump has flip flopped on the things that got me excited in the beginning. No integrity & a loose cannon. Refusing to disclose ANY of his taxes for ANY year was the final nail in the coffin, too many variable unknowns.
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Pure Garbage by who? 'by Shawn Tully' posted in an establishment rag, hell bent on keeping you a trendy engineered beatnick.

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Not voting for a guy who says no Muslims entering the country, and now says "It was just a suggestion", same with the border wall & minimum wage. Trump has flip flopped on the things that got me excited in the beginning. No integrity & a loose cannon. Refusing to disclose ANY of his taxes for ANY year was the final nail in the coffin, too many variable unknowns.
Yea i know how you think about Trump. But if you had to choose you would seriously choose Hillary over Trump?
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Wow what a disaster. Meanwhile Hillary is a proven war criminal and under FBI investigation.

What's worse: Bombing citizens to death or not paying your taxes?

FYI: The government will have a different opinion than you.
Whats a "proven war criminal" and when did she get convicted and by who?
The only person scheduled in court is Trump and his kids over Trump University scam.
I bet he has them as dependents on his tax returns.
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Still he lies less than a politican and isn't a war criminal.

Apparently your ability to detect a liar is seriously out of adjustment. Do you get taken advantage of a lot?


Trump truths:

True (2%)
Mostly True (6%)
Half True (15%)
Mostly False (15%)
False (43%)
Pants on Fire (18%)

Donald Trump's file | PolitiFact



Hillary:


True (23%)
Mostly True (27%)
Half True (22%)
Mostly False (16%)
False (11%)
Pants on Fire (2%)


Hillary Clinton's file | PolitiFact
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The Russians, Trump, and every other country who does not want to play ball with the Washington establishment is in the Panama papers.

Yet the only ones miraculously missing are the Washington establishment & friends like dirty cockroach Soros.

Hmmm, I wonder who is behind the so called leak.
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Apparently your ability to detect a liar is seriously out of adjustment. Do you get taken advantage of a lot?


Trump truths:

True (2%)
Mostly True (6%)
Half True (15%)
Mostly False (15%)
False (43%)
Pants on Fire (18%)

Donald Trump's file | PolitiFact



Hillary:


True (23%)
Mostly True (27%)
Half True (22%)
Mostly False (16%)
False (11%)
Pants on Fire (2%)


Hillary Clinton's file | PolitiFact
Neat looking stats buddy.

FACT: Hillary is a corrupt war criminal with decades of fucking you, the citizen, up his ass. Good look voting for your rapist to fuck you for 4 more years
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Neat looking stats buddy.

FACT: Hillary is a corrupt war criminal with decades of fucking you, the citizen, up his ass. Good look voting for your rapist to fuck you for 4 more years

Hillary is a rapist? I'm starting to wonder if you think Hillary is Trump and vice versa.



Rape lawsuit against Donald Trump thrown out because complainant 'filled in wrong form'

The Time Donald Trump's Ex-Wife Accused Him of Brutally Raping Her


Yea this is the kind of scumfuck we want running the country.
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Yea i know how you think about Trump. But if you had to choose you would seriously choose Hillary over Trump?
Trump had great things to say about Hillary, for decades, including her being at his exclusive wedding, now he's saying nothing but negatives.

He's going to throw the election for Hillary, remember, Trump has switched parties 5 times since 1987. He's going to throw the election, near the end, to quit while he's ahead before too much collateral damage to his reputation.

Trump picked Chris Christie, a totally corrupt institutional politician, to head his white house transition team, that says a lot about Trumps mindset.
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let's let the IRS do the auditing. which they currently are. that's what they do. and they've done it plenty of times with Trump.
Really.. then why is it we also need daily topics about Hillary emails or Benghazi or this or that? Why not just let the FBI do its job?

Why is it we shouldn't vet Trump but we have to vet Hillary daily?

Trump opened his big mouth about others tax returns, so he needs to walk his walk he talks..
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Really.. then why is it we also need daily topics about Hillary emails or Benghazi or this or that? Why not just let the FBI do its job?

Why is it we shouldn't vet Trump but we have to vet Hillary daily?

Trump opened his big mouth about others tax returns, so he needs to walk his walk he talks..
Weak troll attempt. My post was re: rochard seeming to think Trump publically releasing his tax records would reveal something the IRS couldn't find. That implies the IRS doesn't scrutinize as good as Reddit. That's silly.

I've also stated right here in this very thread that all candidates should be fully scrutinized. It's silly to try and portray me as defending Trump.
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Yea this is the kind of scumfuck we want running the country.

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Weak troll attempt. My post was re: rochard seeming to think Trump publically releasing his tax records would reveal something the IRS couldn't find. That implies the IRS doesn't scrutinize as good as Reddit. That's silly.

I've also stated right here in this very thread that all candidates should be fully scrutinized. It's silly to try and portray me as defending Trump.
IRS is looking for fraud, public eye isn't. What I would like to see is Trump's exemptions, net worth and income. The real numbers and not the BS he wants us to believe in. He lied about his donations to charities, he lied about contributions. It would be easier to count what he didn't lie about. I bet he has his kids as dependents on his tax returns.
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Being a New Yorker I have claimed from the beginning that Trump is a fraud.

He started with daddy's millions, flipped some real estate, made some deals, wrote a book about it, had perfect timing since it was the eighties and the whole "greed is good" Gordon Gecko thing from Wall Street was hot, used his fame to convince some idiots to back his next ten gambles (most of which failed), kept goosing his 'celebrity' every time he got in financial trouble, got caught in the 'fame game' so became more and more buffoonish just to keep the press happy, kept going bankrupt every 4-6 years, kept flipping dying properties, got a tv show, exploited his image even more and....here we are. The Trump.

He is not a genius, he is not a billionaire, he is the modern day PT Barnum.
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IRS is looking for fraud, public eye isn't. What I would like to see is Trump's exemptions, net worth and income. The real numbers and not the BS he wants us to believe in. He lied about his donations to charities, he lied about contributions. It would be easier to count what he didn't lie about. I bet he has his kids as dependents on his tax returns.
This does kinda make sense but we already know he's a liar. He is worse liar than Hillary and hillary's a big fucking liar. But he's still winning and the presumptive nominee. Will it change things that it turns out he's worth $4 billion instead of 8? Not really.
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Old 05-12-2016, 05:34 PM   #42
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This does kinda make sense but we already know he's a liar. He is worse liar than Hillary and hillary's a big fucking liar. But he's still winning and the presumptive nominee. Will it change things that it turns out he's worth $4 billion instead of 8? Not really.
He's not winning the general election. He is winning the republican vote but both Sanders and Hillary are beating him with actual votes and that's with the Democrat vote being split between them.

Whenever it's just Hillary or Sanders it will then show how small his pool of support is. The problem Trump has is he can't even get full support from Republicans, so how the hell is he gonna pull any middle ground voters?

He will pretty much have to do a 180 flip flop on most of what he's said to attempt to get the needed votes.. Hell I'm still not convinced he is t running just to make sure Hillary gets in office.
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He's not winning the general election. He is winning the republican vote but both Sanders and Hillary are beating him with actual votes and that's with the Democrat vote being split between them.

Whenever it's just Hillary or Sanders it will then show how small his pool of support is. The problem Trump has is he can't even get full support from Republicans, so how the hell is he gonna pull any middle ground voters?

He will pretty much have to do a 180 flip flop on most of what he's said to attempt to get the needed votes.. Hell I'm still not convinced he is t running just to make sure Hillary gets in office.
anything can happen between now and nov. trump's name will be one of 2 on the ballot. if a terrorist attack or something happens, it can easily swing shit into Trump's favor. hillary is worse. sanders isn't out of it. something could happen to swing things his way.
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he doesn't want anyone to know that he pays almost no taxes, doesn't donate to the soldier charities he claims to, and that he makes far less money than he says. Those things are probably the tip of the Trump tax iceberg.
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he doesn't want anyone to know that he pays almost no taxes, doesn't donate to the soldier charities he claims to, and that he makes far less money than he says. Those things are probably the tip of the Trump tax iceberg.
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This does kinda make sense but we already know he's a liar. He is worse liar than Hillary and hillary's a big fucking liar. But he's still winning and the presumptive nominee. Will it change things that it turns out he's worth $4 billion instead of 8? Not really.
It won't change anything if it turns out he is worth $4 billion instead of $8, but it could hurt him if he turns out to be worth $100 million instead of $4 billion.
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It won't change anything if it turns out he is worth $4 billion instead of $8, but it could hurt him if he turns out to be worth $100 million instead of $4 billion.
Or if he's actually in debt (more likely).
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