Paysite.. worth the time and effort opening? - GoFuckYourself.com

Za Ha · 03-26-2003, 02:54 PM

Well school is over for me so time to work 24/7 now.

Was thinking of a few paysites.. but heard that they are a pain to open and a bit expensive.

I was thinking about $5000-$10,000 each, that is a little risky cause what if it doesnt do good?

I was thinking that with a nice layout, ok niche, and good webmaster prog, ppl would join and produce sign ups..

Is that usually the case, or does it take LONG to get some kinda profit flowing?

chupacabra · 03-26-2003, 03:07 PM

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Is that usually the case, or does it take LONG to get some kinda profit flowing?

well, that totally depends on how you decide to push your new sites, but in my experience, the real money doesn't start rolling in until you start retaining a decent percentage of members and getting rebills... after three years now w/ our paysites, even on brutally slow days (today!), we have enough rebills going through that it doesn't matter. if you offer quality content and often update your members area for your members, you have a much better chance to build something that will generate good revenue... don't try to just move volume, rebills are where its at..!

m0rph3us · 03-26-2003, 03:16 PM

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Originally posted by Za Ha
Well school is over for me so time to work 24/7 now.

Was thinking of a few paysites.. but heard that they are a pain to open and a bit expensive.

I was thinking about $5000-$10,000 each, that is a little risky cause what if it doesnt do good?

I was thinking that with a nice layout, ok niche, and good webmaster prog, ppl would join and produce sign ups..

Is that usually the case, or does it take LONG to get some kinda profit flowing?

10k won't get you a good paysite

sweetcuties · 03-26-2003, 03:23 PM

I started my main site with just 3 girls and I payed them $100 each... I had signups before the site even worked correctly. Those were the days

delia · 03-26-2003, 03:29 PM

Much easier with the AVS sites right now. Especially if you have submitted to the good ones that have their own traffic and good payouts. All you have to do is ... nothing and the money is coming. Paysites give you headaches, i know that from experience.

Rochard · 03-26-2003, 03:30 PM

Is it worth it? Oh yeah.....

Za Ha · 03-26-2003, 03:31 PM

recently signed up to adultdeluxe...

ill try that as an avs... but would like to run a paysite soon

i tried tgps... been big but money sux
so i guess next step is avs or paysites...

andi_germany · 03-26-2003, 05:11 PM

5000-10000 is enough to start a paysite. Just be a little patient. People in this business tend to be inpatient and want to be millionairs in 1 month.

nocostporn · 03-26-2003, 05:18 PM

get your own traffic first...no sense in investing in a project and relying on other people to make the money for you

The Other Steve · 03-26-2003, 05:24 PM

don't rely on affiliates in the normal sense - 20% of them will send you traffic and the other 80% well send you zip.

Perhaps look to work some deals with guys who have a lot of exit traffic in the niche you are promoting.

G Sharp · 03-26-2003, 05:27 PM

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Originally posted by Za Ha
Well school is over for me so time to work 24/7 now.

Was thinking of a few paysites.. but heard that they are a pain to open and a bit expensive.

I was thinking about $5000-$10,000 each, that is a little risky cause what if it doesnt do good?

I was thinking that with a nice layout, ok niche, and good webmaster prog, ppl would join and produce sign ups..

Is that usually the case, or does it take LONG to get some kinda profit flowing?

If you have traffic to feed it, then your risk is minimized.

maxjohan · 03-26-2003, 05:49 PM

Za Ha, I got the perfect opp for you.

hit me up:

ICQ: 172759848

Sly_RJ · 03-26-2003, 05:57 PM

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Originally posted by The Other Steve
don't rely on affiliates in the normal sense - 20% of them will send you traffic and the other 80% well send you zip.

Perhaps look to work some deals with guys who have a lot of exit traffic in the niche you are promoting.

And 20% is really pushing it. Steve, you must have some very niche stuff.

Not many affiliates send a steady flow of traffic. A good chunk of them do the TGP thing and not much more.

You need to have your own traffic available to test things out, such as site conversions and retention. Plus it's a guaranteed 100% cash flow, instead of the 40-50% you'll make relying on affiliates.

There are other extra benefits with having your own traffic as well. You're more free to pimp out your traffic with exits and such.

Mr. Jim · 03-26-2003, 06:01 PM

Look into CyberAge

great way to begin the biz

www.cyberage.com

If you want to get into a paysite, hit me up regarding content.

We have 20,000 + hours and we can work with your budget.

www.holio.net

[email protected]

FlyingIguana · 03-26-2003, 06:05 PM

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Originally posted by Za Ha
Well school is over for me so time to work 24/7 now.

Was thinking of a few paysites.. but heard that they are a pain to open and a bit expensive.

I was thinking about $5000-$10,000 each, that is a little risky cause what if it doesnt do good?

I was thinking that with a nice layout, ok niche, and good webmaster prog, ppl would join and produce sign ups..

Is that usually the case, or does it take LONG to get some kinda profit flowing?

if you opened a small amateur site maybe 10k would get you by. if you know a cute girl that would split profits 50/50 you could make it work. cash flow could be tight until the rebills start pilling up.

webgurl · 03-26-2003, 06:25 PM

Its better than having a regular plain free site. However, you must prepare for a big initial investment .

Martin · 03-26-2003, 06:31 PM

That's where I'm going next.. My own paysite.. Right now I'm just playing around with a movie archive to get the feel for owning a paysite.. Getting traffic is easy.. Coming up with something that converts and retains is the trick..

Peace

AOLGuy · 03-26-2003, 06:40 PM

I started with zero money.

I invested the first 5k I made back into my site...

And now, I am still coasting off that investment.

This business is great because there is no "one" formula for success...

Do something that appeals to you and that you are passionate about...

Then, busting your ass is much easier.

quiet · 03-26-2003, 06:43 PM

i'd highly recommend operating some high quality avs sites first, before moving into paysites.

webgurl · 03-26-2003, 06:47 PM

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Originally posted by quiet
i'd highly recommend operating some high quality avs sites first, before moving into paysites.

Good Suggestion,
Yes that is good idea

sweetcuties · 03-26-2003, 06:53 PM

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Originally posted by AKFK
I started with zero money.

I invested the first 5k I made back into my site...

And now, I am still coasting off that investment.

This business is great because there is no "one" formula for success...

Do something that appeals to you and that you are passionate about...

Then, busting your ass is much easier.

Well said, what works for some doesn't work for others... I started kinda like you... see my earlier post

rdunn404 · 03-26-2003, 06:57 PM

I started my paysite by placing small classified ads with the URL in one local paper. Now I have classified ads with the paysite URL in papers everyday all over the nation! You can do it too!

G Sharp · 03-26-2003, 07:02 PM

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Originally posted by rdunn404
I started my paysite by placing small classified ads with the URL in one local paper. Now I have classified ads with the paysite URL in papers everyday all over the nation! You can do it too!

Don Lapre? Nice infomercial

sumphatpimp · 03-26-2003, 07:41 PM

LOL

build an AVS site and try to hold members for the rebill.
if you can't do that, don't try a paysite.
try to hold the surfers for as long as possible ( 3 to 6 months)

The Other Steve · 03-26-2003, 09:19 PM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ

And 20% is really pushing it. Steve, you must have some very niche stuff.

Well our figures are more like 10%/90% but I didn't want to scare him off all together

QualityMpegs · 03-26-2003, 10:18 PM

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Originally posted by The Other Steve
don't rely on affiliates in the normal sense - 20% of them will send you traffic and the other 80% well send you zip.

Perhaps look to work some deals with guys who have a lot of exit traffic in the niche you are promoting.

So true...it seems people like to signup under your program just for the fun of it. Pretty much the biggest tgp on the net signed under quality dollars, but hasn't sent any traffic. Interesting phenomenon.

Za Ha · 03-26-2003, 10:40 PM

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Originally posted by quiet
i'd highly recommend operating some high quality avs sites first, before moving into paysites.

I have been around enough to listen when a wise GFY person talks. And since most ppl agree with you on this, I will open a few AVS sites first.

Thanx for all the great feedback guys.

Ill let you know how it goes.

03-26-2003, 02:54 PM	#1
Za Ha Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Still lost Posts: 5,112	Paysite.. worth the time and effort opening? Well school is over for me so time to work 24/7 now. Was thinking of a few paysites.. but heard that they are a pain to open and a bit expensive. I was thinking about $5000-$10,000 each, that is a little risky cause what if it doesnt do good? I was thinking that with a nice layout, ok niche, and good webmaster prog, ppl would join and produce sign ups.. Is that usually the case, or does it take LONG to get some kinda profit flowing?

03-26-2003, 03:23 PM	#4
sweetcuties Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Somewhere Posts: 5,859	I started my main site with just 3 girls and I payed them $100 each... I had signups before the site even worked correctly. Those were the days __________________

03-26-2003, 03:29 PM	#5
delia Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Europe Posts: 381	Much easier with the AVS sites right now. Especially if you have submitted to the good ones that have their own traffic and good payouts. All you have to do is ... nothing and the money is coming. Paysites give you headaches, i know that from experience. __________________ ProAdult My number one AVS

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03-26-2003, 05:18 PM	#9
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03-26-2003, 03:31 PM	#7
Za Ha Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Still lost Posts: 5,112	recently signed up to adultdeluxe... ill try that as an avs... but would like to run a paysite soon i tried tgps... been big but money sux so i guess next step is avs or paysites...

03-26-2003, 05:11 PM	#8
andi_germany Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 768	5000-10000 is enough to start a paysite. Just be a little patient. People in this business tend to be inpatient and want to be millionairs in 1 month.

03-26-2003, 05:24 PM	#10
The Other Steve Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Sunny Queensland - perfect one day and better the next. Posts: 2,106	don't rely on affiliates in the normal sense - 20% of them will send you traffic and the other 80% well send you zip. Perhaps look to work some deals with guys who have a lot of exit traffic in the niche you are promoting. __________________ Left intentionally blank ... just like my brain

03-26-2003, 05:49 PM	#12
maxjohan Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 7,219	Za Ha, I got the perfect opp for you. hit me up: ICQ: 172759848 __________________ I went from 100 to 313,000 satoshis in 2 days! Lots of daily freerolls...

03-26-2003, 06:01 PM	#14
Mr. Jim Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 4,372	Look into CyberAge great way to begin the biz www.cyberage.com If you want to get into a paysite, hit me up regarding content. We have 20,000 + hours and we can work with your budget. www.holio.net [email protected]

03-26-2003, 06:25 PM	#16
webgurl Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Clouds with Carebears Posts: 7,954	Its better than having a regular plain free site. However, you must prepare for a big initial investment .

03-26-2003, 06:31 PM	#17
Martin "Assassins" Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: At home Posts: 17,277	That's where I'm going next.. My own paysite.. Right now I'm just playing around with a movie archive to get the feel for owning a paysite.. Getting traffic is easy.. Coming up with something that converts and retains is the trick.. Peace __________________

03-26-2003, 06:40 PM	#18
AOLGuy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 1,261	I started with zero money. I invested the first 5k I made back into my site... And now, I am still coasting off that investment. This business is great because there is no "one" formula for success... Do something that appeals to you and that you are passionate about... Then, busting your ass is much easier.

03-26-2003, 06:43 PM	#19
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	i'd highly recommend operating some high quality avs sites first, before moving into paysites.

03-26-2003, 06:57 PM	#22
rdunn404 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 999	I started my paysite by placing small classified ads with the URL in one local paper. Now I have classified ads with the paysite URL in papers everyday all over the nation! You can do it too!

03-26-2003, 07:41 PM	#24
sumphatpimp Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 5,235	LOL build an AVS site and try to hold members for the rebill. if you can't do that, don't try a paysite. try to hold the surfers for as long as possible ( 3 to 6 months)