How many Americans would be able to find Benghazi on the map without asking google for help?

What does Donald Trump have to do with this?

And why can't you answer the questions:
Why don't you find what Hillary did to be wrong?

And how would you feel if it was your family member who was killed and your govt. representative KNEW what happened...and lied to your face at the casket ceremony?

BULLSHIT! She lied to their faces man! Watch the video.

She told them it was caused by a fucking Youtube video and NOT a planned terrorist attack even though she KNEW that wasn't true.

Wow man. I don't know what is wrong with you. It's disgusting.

Again... There was a video, there was a warning issued to the embassies in the area, there was a protest, and then there was a terrorist attack. Based on the information they had then, everything Clinton said was in fact true. It is still true today.

Was the protest planned? Yes. Was the terrorist attack planned? Yes. Did the protest encourage the attack? Yes. Did people form the protest join the terrorist attack? Yes.

This started with a protest because of a video that was released? What did she lie about?

Let's just investigate this some more.

NO! They have all admitted since then that it was NEVER about a video.

Jesus Rochard. Why do you INSIST on posting when you don't know what you are talking about?

Why arent conservatives whining about CNN first reporting that it was a Cessna that crashed into the WTC on the morning of 9/11? Don't they care about the 3000 lives that were lost on that day?

Wow...they really reported that? I wonder if it was because they were freaked out and in a hurry to get the story on air before they had a chance to figure out what happened?

And why would "conservatives" be "whining" about a story from 9-11???

I don't get any of this divisiveness...you don't have to be a "conservative" or a "liberal" to say that a politician lying to people is wrong.

WTF?

Basic line - from a foreigners pov:

GOP goes nuts over irrelevant bullshit while being responsible for thousands of dead Americans in an illegal war.

I wish I could say for sure I'd do it. Dude powerful people are SO powerful. That sounds simplistic but it is seductive the power they have. They say a word, and thousands of wheels move. They get their asses kissed morning noon and night. The minor irritations we have they have very smart people to solve.

I've never been anywhere close to that powerful, but I've met people that are, including Bush jr. and both Bill and Hillary Clinton. They honestly think of us as chess pieces I think, to look in their eyes; you just try to pick the one that won't do a lot of damage or even might do some good.

I've said before Bill Clinton can fuck a thousand fat whores, people were happy. I care if Hillary Clinton lied, and Obama lied, and perhaps Benghazi happened as you say it did. But I hear a lot of people saying it didn't as well. And perhaps the ass she was covering was Obama's, not hers.

Robbie man If I had a wish, I'd bring this whole thing down and we'd all be hunter-gatherers. But that won't happen, because .1 percent of the population needs their asses licked and they'll kill, torture, and destroy to get that. And a stupid 5% of the population will enforce their will.

All this aside, ask yourself, what will this person do when they get in office? How will they govern? What will the effect of their presidency be? I think that matters as much or more.

I think if Hillary wins...it will be more of the same thing we've had for decades now. The political ruling class will enrich themselves at the expense of you and me.

I have often wondered how we could run up this much debt in our country and it be at an "acceptable" level and actually lower level to GFP than during WW2.

Then I saw an economist on CNN explaining it. Basically, the Federal Reserve has printed so much money that it makes our money not worth much.
So it devalues the debt.

If Hillary is elected...I believe she will keep on kicking that can down the road and run the debt higher and higher while the Fed prints more money and makes every dollar worth less.

It's been going on for many years now.

How much longer can it go on? I don't know. But I do believe that within my lifetime that debt is going to bite the United States in the ass and everything is going to be fucked.

If Trump is elected...who the fuck knows?

In my opinion "who the fuck knows" is MUCH better than the continuing abject failure of the Federal Govt. and the lifetime/career politicians fucking all of us over.

50 Hillary Clinton lovers

Seriously, why argue with him. Robbie is not sensible and never has been. I dunno why people think he is because he's always beat a dead horse right into the ground no matter how wrong he's proven or what the subject is.

He's gone off the deep end long ago and nothing you will ever say to him will ever change his mind on any subject he thinks he's right about..

I challenge anyone to find any topic where Robbie has admitted he was wrong and changed his position..

Some people make every argument into a political argument.

I do not like or dislike Hillary. This is not a political issue for me. This is a government issue. This is how our government acts; This is how our government is supposed to act. In the event of an emergency our government needs to act slowly, carefully, and deliberately. In this case, our government told us what they knew to be true. They might have suspected this was much more than a protest, but they cannot come out and confront the American public and say "We think it might have been this" because if they wrong it's a potential scandal.

In this case our government almost immediately suspected this was much more than just a protest. Until they had proof they stuck with the original story, all of which was 100% true.

But nah, let's investigate this again.

I have zero issues with "vetting" a Potus candidate. Especially one that is known to lie, is a war monger, and in cahoots with wall Street fat cats while exclaiming she's in it for John q. Public all while being a career established inside the beltway politician making 100s of millions of dollars.

Benghazi was a CIA gun running operation gone bad. /endstory

Wow.

I'll say it AGAIN. The very night of the attack on Benghazi...Hillary wrote an email to her daughter and said that the attack was a terrorist attack.

That is NOT the govt. "acting slowly, carefully, and deliberately". That is Hillary telling her daughter the truth and THEN Pres. Obama and her going on television and blaming it on a video.

What part of they KNEW it was a terrorist attack as it was happening do you not understand???

You act so damn dense on these threads.

ONCE AND FOR ALL ROCHARD CHECK OUT FACTCHECK.ORG:
Benghazi Timeline

From that page:
"There were no protesters at the Benghazi consulate prior to the attack, even though Obama and others repeatedly said the attackers joined an angry mob that had formed in opposition to the anti-Muslim film that had triggered protests in Egypt and elsewhere. The State Department disclosed this fact Oct. 9 — nearly a month after the attack."

Get it Rochard NO PROTESTORS. And that was the State Dept. headed by Hillary Clinton ADMITTING they lied one month after the event.

At 10 p.m. that very night...Secretary Of State Hillary Clinton issued the following statement:
"Clinton: Some have sought to justify this vicious behavior as a response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet. The United States deplores any intentional effort to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. Our commitment to religious tolerance goes back to the very beginning of our nation. But let me be clear: There is never any justification for violent acts of this kind."

One hour later...she sent an email to Chelsea that said:
"Two of our officers were killed in Benghazi by an al Qaeda-like group: The Ambassador, whom I handpicked and a young communications officer on temporary duty w a wife and two young children. Very hard day and I fear more of the same tomorrow. "

Now PLEASE stop spreading misinformation and lies Rochard.
If you can't use Google to find things out then just stop typing bullshit.

The whole point of my post here was to show that while guys like you act like this was nothing at all...it was EVERYTHING to the people involved.

While Hillary dances around lying and wiping her server and acting like SHE is a "victim"...the real victims were lied to and treated like dirt by her and the Obama administration.

That is NOT how govt. is "supposed to act" as you wrote.

I shouldn't have to type all this shit. This is the very basics of what happened.
But you act like you've never opened a newspaper or watched the news on television in your whole life...or even used Google.
And then you come into these threads with a know-it-all attitude and say the exact opposite of what really happened. :disgust

robbie. dont waste any more words with this one. he is WILLFULLY ignorant, a member of the blame america first crowd, blame GOP for everything crowd. thats all he wants to hear.

hey rochard...any chance the muslim terrorists have any blame for any of it? how about obama being in charge 7 years, no blame??? your so ignorant, the people waging the actual attacks have no blame.

that easy to school you. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

If Clinton should be on trial over Benghazi, so should Bush over Iraq.

Very true

that resulted in an ambushed rescue mission, a tortured and sodomized diplomat, an unguarded and entirely known safe house.. and a great deal of mercenaries for syria.

but.. politics!

i wonder when the succession wars start.

I am not a Democrat; I used to be a full on Republican. I have voted Republican more than anything else. I am a realist.

I surely don't spend my time watching silly heavily biased videos.

life's not fair markham. it's odd you haven't figured that out by now.

So you think she knew that the attack had occurred because of radical islamists, and Obama, seeking to turn the message toward "Islamists are peaceful unless provoked", insisted on the absurd story that the attack resulted from protests gone awry over a movie. She then, instead of telling the American people what she knew and exposing Obama and the rest of his administration as liars who are willing to say and do anything to retain power, stayed loyal to him and his message.

Further, you believe she knew, not feared, knew, who caused the attacks that cost 4 lives and millions in property damage, and what their motivation was. So when Obama insisted everyone stay on message, she complied out of a desire to fool the American people rather than because she thought she might have been incorrect in her original assessment.

heads up (assuming people in this debate are aware of the Benghazi talking points, although it sounds like a couple of you are not):

Secret Emails Show Hillary Clinton Tied To Benghazi Talking Points

"Judicial Watch announced today that newly revealed testimony from the Obama State Department under court order directly ties Hillary Clinton, for the first time, to the now-debunked Benghazi talking points used by United Nations Ambassador Susan Rice to claim that the attack was the result of a ?spontaneous protest? gone awry.

The Obama administration also sent false talking points about the attack to Congress. The State Department is refusing to divulge the contents of the email, citing a discretionary ?deliberative process? privilege."

read:

Summary

The question won’t go away: Did President Obama and administration officials mislead the public when they initially claimed that the deadly Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi began “spontaneously” in response to an anti-Muslim video?

The question surfaced again on Oct. 25 — more than six weeks after the incident — when government emails showed the White House and the State Department were told even as the attack was going on that Ansar al-Sharia, a little-known militant group, had claimed credit for it.

We cannot say whether the administration was intentionally misleading the public. We cannot prove intent. There is also more information to come — both from the FBI, which is conducting an investigation, and Congress, which has been holding hearings.

But, at this point, we do know that Obama and others in the administration were quick to cite the anti-Muslim video as the underlying cause for the attack in Benghazi that killed four U.S. diplomats, including U.S. Ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens. And they were slow to acknowledge it was a premeditated terrorist attack, and they downplayed reports that it might have been.

What follows is a timeline of events that we hope will help put the incident into perspective.

We call attention in particular to these key facts:
There were no protesters at the Benghazi consulate prior to the attack, even though Obama and others repeatedly said the attackers joined an angry mob that had formed in opposition to the anti-Muslim film that had triggered protests in Egypt and elsewhere. The State Department disclosed this fact Oct. 9 — nearly a month after the attack.

Libya President Mohamed Magariaf insisted on Sept. 16 — five days after the attack — that it was a planned terrorist attack, but administration officials continued for days later to say there was no evidence of a planned attack.

Magariaf also said the idea that the attack was a “spontaneous protest that just spun out of control is completely unfounded and preposterous.” This, too, was on Sept. 16. Yet, Obama and others continued to describe the incident in exactly those terms — including during the president’s Sept. 18 appearance on the “Late Show With David Letterman.”

Matt Olsen, director of the National Counterterrorism Center, was the first administration official to call it “a terrorist attack” during a Sept. 19 congressional hearing. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton did the same on Sept. 20. Even so, Obama declined opportunities to call it a terrorist attack when asked at a town hall meeting on Sept. 20 and during a taping of “The View” on Sept. 24.

Here is our timeline:

Benghazi Timeline - Factcheck.org

But why?

Rochard said that the govt. response to Benghazi was just the govt. doing "what it's supposed to do"

And Rochard said "No one lied about anything."

And Rochard said: "Clinton didn't lie to anyone"

He also assured us in previous threads that the economy was kicking ass because none of the houses on the street he lives on are empty. :error

Here's a question none of the Benghazi whiners will answer directly....I repeat, there will be NO DIRECT ANSWER GIVEN to this question. Just double-speaking around it.

One a scale of 1 to 10, rate the seriousness and global impact/ripple effect of Benghazi vs The Iraq war.

example answer:
Benghazi 2
Iraq war 10

My answer doesn't mean Benghazi isn't serious...but it's a proverbial molehill compared to Iraq.

Iraq breaks the scale.

i dont know bronco. which was more impactful, the bible, or your dumb posts?

:1orglaugh

you keeping on whining about it doesn't make it relevant- at all.

example:

benghazi has absolutely jack shit to do with iraq and isn't even worthy of a reply.

on a scale of 1-13, rate the seriousness and global impact/ripple effect of Benghazi vs The battle of Hastings 1066.

oh another person who is denial about their party. i talk dem, but i was a republican, until i was a dem, but now im not dem, or repub, but sound dem, just call me dumbass.

no. you just read silly heavily biased web pages & then compare hilarys server to colins gmail & claim they are the same & make yourself look like a 5th grader.

im sure when hilary is flogged by the FBI you will engineer some crockett science that you were right, or you didnt care, anything but the reality that your head is willfully up your ass.

:)

You did exactly what I said you'd do. I just asked a simple question.

It is relevant. You guys want to make big deal about Benghazi, but give no shits about something way more catastrophic to our nation and national security.

You answer will show that all of this Benghazi whining is completely and 100% about political leanings. So give an honest answer, or just do what I predicted you'll do, which is to say something you think is smart.

I dare you to make less sense. You know you're a fucking idiot....right?

Did the State Department know this when they made the statement? Did Hillary? Did Obama? Did anyone?

In the initial stages of the attack, the White House and the State Department was reacting and commenting on what little information they had. The ONLY things the White House the State Department knew as facts was that a video was released, they were expecting multiple protests at multiple locations, and that an embassy was being over run.

In the first twenty-four hours that is all they knew, and that is exactly what they told us.

From page you sent me..... Benghazi Timeline

Has the following interview with Obama the day after:

Kroft: Do you believe that this was a terrorist attack?

Obama: Well, it?s too early to know exactly how this came about, what group was involved, but obviously it was an attack on Americans and we are going to be working with the Libyan government to make sure that we bring these folks to justice one way or the other.

Kroft: It?s been described as a mob action. But there are reports that they were very heavily armed with grenades. That doesn?t sound like your normal demonstration.

Obama: As I said, we?re still investigating exactly what happened. I don?t want to jump the gun on this. But you?re right that this is not a situation that was exactly the same as what happened in Egypt. And my suspicion is, is that there are folks involved in this, who were looking to target Americans from the start.

The day after the attack the President said we didn't want to jump to conclusions on this, and that people were looking to target Americans from the start.

Twenty four hours after the attack, we still had no idea what had really happened there. We didn't know if there was a protest or not; It wasn't even near being on the list of important things we needed or wanted to know. This isn't a crime scene down the block being investigated by your friendly local law enforcement; This is was a terrorist attack in a foreign country where is was little if any law enforcement, and not much support from the government. We didn't figure out what happened until weeks afterwards.

They told us what they knew at the time. No one lied.

Hillary told her daughter in an email that it was a terrorist attack? And? What is your point? She told her daughter it was a terrorist attack while in public tried not to use those words? YOU THINK? That was her job. The President himself was quoted (above) as saying they were trying not use the world "terrorism" because at the time we weren't sure what happened, and we don't want to use such words lightly.

They told us what they knew to be true and correct at the time. Period.

No, not at all. I don't read any websites about this. I don't spend my time reading such nonsense. I read and watch the mainstream news, CNN, ABC, CBS, Fox....

Benghazi isn't even remotely on my radar. No one outside of the hardcore Republicans care about Benghazi. It's rarely in the news.

How many embassies were attacked under Bush? Why haven't we investigated any of them?

Why are we investigating this one, small, minor attack more than the largest attack in American history?

no. i'm just able to focus on the topic. i'm not getting sucked into the liberal dodge and deflect mode of debating.

as i already posted i am a proponent of fulling "vetting" any and all potus candidates. you've yet to see me point out any unfair "vetting" of Trump. that's because i don't have a problem with it. vett the shit out of those motherfuckers.

yes. your comments reflect a thin understanding of issues, a mindless regurgitator of liberal spin. i point out you should do some work & get more facts, but you willfully choose not to. so i am correct & you are willfully ignorant.

:)

how many embassies were attacked under Bill Clinton? Why haven't we investigated any of them?