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Joshua G 05-10-2016 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Horatio Caine (Post 20886209)
She is not charged with anything, isn't she? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

so in your head, the FBI charges first, asks questions after. :1orglaugh

Horatio Caine 05-10-2016 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by woj (Post 20886746)
if you were running FBI, what would you do? Clearly waiting and watching how things play out first would be smart thing to do...

obviously it doesn't mean that eventually she will get charged, but what you implied in your post is wrong... the fact that she wasn't charged yet, in no way proves that there is no evidence linking her to any wrongdoing...

Who cares what I or you "would have done". She hasn't been charged with anything. Right? <the end>

Horatio Caine 05-10-2016 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 20886776)
so in your head, the FBI charges first, asks questions after. :1orglaugh

No silly. They investigate first and then decide if there was malice, intent and crime. Neither one has been established. <the end>

dyna mo 05-10-2016 08:43 PM

Intent doesn't matter here. That would leave room for sloppy handling of top-secret communications.

You can't be sloppy handling classified material. No excuses. Hillary stll gets a pass. Hoda may be the fall girl.

dyna mo 05-10-2016 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20886722)
It show's that what she did was common practice as both those who held her exact job position did the same thing.

Again, she's a lying cunt but it's gonna be extremely hard for anyone to make a case out of this. The only reason it's even an issue is because Republicans whined until the FBI was forced to investigate.

If someone reported you to the FBI as funding terrorist, they would be by law obligated to investigate you. It's the same thing at work here. The FBI has to investigate if a supposed crime was reported.

Nothing will happen, it will be just like every other investigation republicans have wasted our time with concerning the Clintons.

Meanwhile Ollie North and Regan are their hero's and they won't say shit about Cheny exposing a Cia agent or all the lies the Bushes told.

Just more political grandstanding from the right. It's why no one cares anymore. They have cried wolf too many times..

The investigation has expanded way beyond Benghazi. In investigating that, many other suspected illegal activities came to light.

The past has nothing to do with it.

Rochard 05-10-2016 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 20886776)
so in your head, the FBI charges first, asks questions after. :1orglaugh

There hasn't been any charges. When a potential crime is reported, they are required to investigate. Oddly enough, although we know this was a common practice at the State Department, no one else is being investigated. (Yet.)

Again, loose / loose. In the event Hillary is charged the FBI will be forced to investigate Rice and Powell. If the Republicans win it will come too late to have any effect on the election, the damages will be minimal, and then we can turn our attention over to everyone else who may be guilty of similar charges.

So far as I am concerned, let's rip into all of them. Republicans, Democrats, Congress, governors.... Let's see what they say. Let's see what they have to hide.

While I am thinking of it, what is Trump hiding. Why won't he release his taxes?

Horatio Caine 05-10-2016 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20886917)
Intent doesn't matter here. That would leave room for sloppy handling of top-secret communications.

You can't be sloppy handling classified material. No excuses. Hillary stll gets a pass. Hoda may be the fall girl.

All 7 emails were sent to her, not by her. None had top secret flag. All sent from and through internal communication system, not "top secret" one. Entire story is blown out of proportion and will go on forever by GOP just like Obama's birth certificate and Benghazi probes. Nothing new there.

plaster 05-10-2016 09:40 PM

Hitlery should be shot for treason for putting our country in jeapordy!

EonBlue 05-10-2016 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by AllAboutCams (Post 20886029)
Dont you live in Eastern Europe somewhere?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

The proudest British live abroad to spread their pride while foreigners take over the homeland they are supposedly proud about.

:Oh crap




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Robbie 05-11-2016 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20886182)
Not at all. Instead, the GOP is using the FBI in to make Hillary look bad.

If this is a serious investigation, why isn't the investigation looking to Powell or Rice, or members of Congress? It's because the GOP is pushing to punish Hillary - Or perhaps not punish her, but make her look bad before an election.

Because the LAW about this was created in 2009 under Secretary Of State Clinton.

It's the 2009 Federal Records Act. And when it went into effect...Hillary Clinton sent out a memo to all employees of the State Dept. to NOT use private servers because it was now against the law.

She broke the law knowingly and is a hypocrite and total bold-faced liar.

Jesus man...don't you research anything before you start typing out stream of conscious nonsense?

Paul Markham 05-11-2016 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by AllAboutCams (Post 20886029)
Dont you live in Eastern Europe somewhere?

Yes. Moved here 18 years ago.

When I see what British politicians get up to I'm amazed at the outrage by the media. We now have a storm in a teacup for Cameron, Brit PM, calling corrupt countries and politicians, corrupt countries and politicians. :1orglaugh

Paul Markham 05-11-2016 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20886080)
Where have we heard this before....

Reagan Testimony IranContra | User Clip | C-SPAN.org

I'm sorry, but this is a lot of excitement about nothing. Setting up a private email server for the Secretary Of State was common practice - Powell and Rice both did it, and they are Republicans.

They are talking about charging her with a violation that applies to any government official who ?knowingly and willfully communicates? information ?to an unauthorized person"? Hillary will just argue that the information wasn't classified, or they didn't know it was classified, and that it was sent to someone in the state department who should have been authorized to receive in the first place.

Of course, the Republican side will continue saying "she lied". LOL. Let's be realistic here. Hillary Clinton doesn't remember the contents of each email, who sent them, and if any of them received classified information. How many emails were on that server? Twenty thousand?

The Republican party constantly backs themselves into a corner where they loose no matter what. Even if they win, they loose. They almost defeated Obamacare. Imagine if tens of millions of people suddenly lost their healthcare in the United States, and these tens of millions of people went without healthcare for two or three years until our government unfucks themselves. The Republican party almost pulled it off.

This is the same exact thing - Let's just say Hillary is found guilty and gets a fine. That's a huge win for the Republicans, right? Not so much. We'll have to investigate Powell and Rice, because they did the same thing. And then we'll need to investigate members of Congress, because we have members of Congress who have used private email servers.

But what, let's not stop there. Bush, Rubio, Walker, Christie, and Perry ALL used private email servers while in office. While it's unlikely they had any classified information, it's most likely they violated both federal and state laws about how they handled their information, and what information the should have released by didn't.

Even if the Republican wins and Hillary is charged, it will be minor, and then we'll spend the next four years ripping into and investigating dozens of Republicans. Hillary will go on to be President, and lots of Republicans will loose their careers because of it.

The Republicans would rather fuck the Democrats than fix problems.

Bush went to war on evidence that was so faulty it should have put him in prison. His mistake caused the deaths of millions.

B. Clinton got a BJ.
Obama is black
H. Clinton made mistakes over Benghazi. How many got killed?

Meanwhile, the Republicans are incapable of coming up with a half decent Presidential Candidate.

Horatio Caine 05-11-2016 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20887067)
Because the LAW about this was created in 2009 under Secretary Of State Clinton.

It's the 2009 Federal Records Act. And when it went into effect...Hillary Clinton sent out a memo to all employees of the State Dept. to NOT use private servers because it was now against the law.

She broke the law knowingly and is a hypocrite and total bold-faced liar.

Jesus man...don't you research anything before you start typing out stream of conscious nonsense?

Private emails not private server, retard.

Nobody Can Figure Out Whether Hillary Broke the Law with Personal Email Account | Mediaite

ilnjscb 05-11-2016 11:52 AM

The law was strengthened in 2014 after she left office, and would have been unambiguous, but certainly her IT folks and the folks at Dept State might have coordinated more to be 100% secure and 100% clear. I assume that is why the law was strengthened in 2014.

There will be people on both sides, but to make a defensible finding requires that the allegations be clear and proven beyond a reasonable doubt. This isn't a civil case where a preponderance of evidence will do. I don't see any clarity because there are no charges yet and no clear evidence. No one on this earth is sure, though many claim to be. If there are charges, you can bet they'll be backed up with flawless evidence, otherwise they will never happen. JD will review and decline to proceed.

JD will need a case that cannot lose; they will not allow a mud-dragging, or insinuation, or trial by youtube. If that flawless case doesn't exist, there won't be a indictment.

bronco67 05-11-2016 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20886080)
Where have we heard this before....

Reagan Testimony IranContra | User Clip | C-SPAN.org



But what, let's not stop there. Bush, Rubio, Walker, Christie, and Perry ALL used private email servers while in office. While it's unlikely they had any classified information, it's most likely they violated both federal and state laws about how they handled their information, and what information the should have released by didn't.

.

haha yeah...but they're not running for president.

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