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Old 03-26-2003, 12:21 AM   #2
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Bastard!!
Tell me how he does it, and I will do the same....fuckers...
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Old 03-26-2003, 12:28 AM   #6
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Damn, that's got me stumped too! Seems to be using some good ass cloaks too and they have disabled caching which makes figuring out their strategy hard as hell to figure out. Not to mention 0 backlinks and pr of 0!

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Old 03-26-2003, 12:30 AM   #10
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is there something wrong with what he's doing? the content of each page is what the domain name says.

(i'm clueless about search engines)
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and what exactly is cloaking?
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Old 03-26-2003, 12:32 AM   #12
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Yes, it's wrong because he steals everyones money with this tactic.

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Old 03-26-2003, 12:33 AM   #13
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Yes, it's wrong because he steals everyones money with this tactic.
but is there something wrong with his tactic? something against the rules?
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Old 03-26-2003, 12:34 AM   #14
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Cloaking, redirecting, thousands of doorways. Come on, get real!
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Old 03-26-2003, 12:34 AM   #15
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Here's the most beautiful thing.....some of those domains were registered just 3-4 days ago.....gets them listed and #1 in a matter of days......

atleast I'm proud it's a Canuck.
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Old 03-26-2003, 12:35 AM   #16
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Damn, that's got me stumped too! Seems to be using some good ass cloaks too and they have disabled caching which makes figuring out their strategy hard as hell to figure out. Not to mention 0 backlinks and pr of 0!

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http://216.239.37.100/search?q=cache...hl=en&ie=UTF-8

aargh, here's the url to the cached webpage.

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Old 03-26-2003, 12:37 AM   #18
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Cloaking, redirecting, thousands of doorways. Come on, get real!
hey asswipe, if you had read my whole post, you would have seen that i said i'm clueless about search engines. and then i asked what cloaking is.
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Old 03-26-2003, 12:38 AM   #19
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What is with this?

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http://216.239.37.100/search?q=cache...n&ie=UTF-8</a>

aargh, here's the url to the cached webpage.
so he makes a webpage filled with random text including the key words repeated several times. one google crawls and indexes his site, he edits it. am i right?
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http://216.239.37.100/search?q=cache...n&ie=UTF-8</a>

aargh, here's the url to the cached webpage.
Thanks, his black keywords were all not cached. I'm looking into what this guy has been doing. I'm impressed :-)

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so he makes a webpage filled with random text including the key words repeated several times. one google crawls and indexes his site, he edits it. am i right?
Cloaking is when you make a page that your server sends ONLY to google. Every other surfer sees a different page then google. That's cloaking. Easy to do, and even easier to get your domain blacklisted on google and domains that link to you get a lower PR rating.
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Hmm... I got a site that I mess with as a running experiment, and I've been running cloaked pages for a long time on it without a problem, they've all got PR 0 or 1, but there's thousands on the one domain, but I have yet to get a top listing on a single search word.
Did this guy hit single word searches? Do you have any search page results with his pages on 'em?
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Cloaking is when you make a page that your server sends ONLY to google. Every other surfer sees a different page then google. That's cloaking. Easy to do, and even easier to get your domain blacklisted on google and domains that link to you get a lower PR rating.
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if i am not wrong (based his thumbs ,his sponsor name)

http://www.hornyalien.com


http://www.hornyalien.com/FPA/

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Thats him keyword stuffing and making doorway pages, that get switched once they are accepted by the good ole google bot.
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Hmm... I got a site that I mess with as a running experiment, and I've been running cloaked pages for a long time on it without a problem, they've all got PR 0 or 1, but there's thousands on the one domain, but I have yet to get a top listing on a single search word.
gee I wonder why man. ;)

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holy shit this guy in all 3 words stuff in top ..
how much it will make this week if someone dont stop him??
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http://www.young-teen-girls.biz/
http://www.young-girls-sex.biz/
http://www.teen-girls-nude.biz/
http://www.young-teen-girls.biz/
http://www.hot-naked-girls.biz/


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Yeah, I've been working on figuring out his link structure for the past 2 hours or so. Pretty good to say the least, I've got most of it down and trying to iron out the details. If you want to see his real gateway pages, you'll need to write a script to change your UA to be GoogleBot. His cloaking agent works by useragent only and not based on IP address so based from that reverse engineering his link structure shouldn't take too long if you want it. There is some room for improvement but this guy sure helped me figure out a few things on how Google's typographical casing works.

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Yeah, I've been working on figuring out his link structure for the past 2 hours or so. Pretty good to say the least, I've got most of it down and trying to iron out the details. If you want to see his real gateway pages, you'll need to write a script to change your UA to be GoogleBot. His cloaking agent works by useragent only and not based on IP address so based from that reverse engineering his link structure shouldn't take too long if you want it. There is some room for improvement but this guy sure helped me figure out a few things on how Google's typographical casing works.

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quite possible if he's cloaking then the script auto-generates links to his other pages, names etc.

his one mistake is over-doing it so that he got noticed.
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very interesting indeed.

i have seen a similar page liek this before.

al red,

had all names in the bottom with simmilar html files.

but he used .com domains and fake urls of mayor tgp's to get se hits instead of keywords

he used domains like thehun-xxx.com (<-- only an example, dont know the real domains he used)

but i have seen that one more then 2 years back allready

maybe the same guy?

edit: typo

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"......instead of keyboards"

Do you use keyboards to get listed. You are my hero.
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I just spent 3 hours until 6am drawing out his link structure on a huge whiteboard so I can see how he got his ranking. That info doesn't come free you know

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He fakes links from high PR sites, so Freshbot thinks these links exist, but of course they don't.
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changed ;-)

but yeah i do type with a keyboard dont ya :P

anyway the setup of this is very very similar to what that guy did.
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heh well here's my free version which took 5 minutes.. so fwiw..

frontpage of each site has: 19 links to other sites he owns
and ~499 links that go deeper to the root domain

On these ~500 pages he has links to 50/500 (so basically google goes to page follows 50links, finds a page with 50 more links etc)
and 19 links to other sites he owns.

One thing that I don't quite understand is how he got these pages crawled so quickly.. Maybe he has a high PR site that gets regularly crawling and fed it links into his matrix.
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There was a chinese-american guy doing something similar a few months back - even using the same sponsor.

he stayed on top of Google for a couple of months before they caught him and wiped him out of their listing.

pity anyone who buys the domain names this guy is using. Once he's caught he'll let them expire and regardless of who buys them Google will leave them in outer darkness for ever
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One thing that I don't quite understand is how he got these pages crawled so quickly.. Maybe he has a high PR site that gets regularly crawling and fed it links into his matrix.


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This link is just for beginners, (explanation of freshbot) - LAME.
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You're always the first idiot to let out tricks to fuck google up you goddamn cocksucking fuck. For starters, we should be hunting your sites down first.
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Here we go, read his comment and you will know that Dildozer or Bulldozer or what the fuck this retard is (male or female or animal), is the spammer.
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