Paul Ryan will be the republican nominee

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  • crockett
    in a van by the river
    • May 2003
    • 76818

    #31
    Originally posted by kane
    Ryan may well be a better candidate than Cruz or Trump. The problem is if they screw Trump and Cruz and make him the nomination Trump will likely run as a third party candidate. That will cause a split in the republican vote and likely make it pretty easy for the democrat. If they could somehow keep Trump from running as a third party candidate it will help them to some degree, but it seems like about 35% of registered republicans are die hard Trump supporters. Who knows how they will react if he gets screwed out of the nomination. Without their support no republican candidate can win.
    Don't be so sure the DNC is busy fucking over Bernie as well. Despite him winning Wyoming yesterday hilly gets half the delegates and all the super delegates..

    Despite loosing Hillary walks away with more delegates than Sanders. I imagine this election will have the lowest turn outs of any election in recent history because it's obvious both parties are ignoring the actual voters and it will result in many people not bothering to vote.
    In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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    • slapass
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Nov 2002
      • 14625

      #32
      Come on, we all knew the Republicans couldn't win this time around. They mailed it in.

      The good news is this will force them to really look at their platform. Guns and abortion are pretty narrow and leaves a lot of folks out of it. Add in the denier element and any reasonable person has a hard time voting for their candidates. it is time they revamped it a bit.

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      • ITraffic
        Confirmed User
        • Jul 2013
        • 2725

        #33
        at least this election reveals how the game is rigged to prevent "an outbreak of democracy."

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        • 2MuchMark
          Mark of 2Much.net
          • Aug 2004
          • 50969

          #34
          Originally posted by poncabare
          baffling why you would even care about another countries politics.
          I too am baffled.

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          • LAJ
            Gingerific
            • Jun 2001
            • 5567

            #35
            Originally posted by poncabare
            baffling why you would even care about another countries politics.
            Because American politics are rammed down everyone's throat, and whomever wins 2016 will affect the rest of the world for better or for worse.
            YNOT.com - The original industry resource
            email jay at ynot dot com or skype LAJConsulting

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            • Robbie
              Leaner, Meaner, Faster
              • Aug 2002
              • 20960

              #36
              Originally posted by MarkPrince
              Paul Ryan on the other hand is probably the smartest of the entire bunch on the republican side. I think that Ryan is the GOP's best hope of winning the whitehouse, or at the very least, saving the republican party.
              You certainly (as usual) have NO idea about what people in this country want.

              Yes, the media (who work for the RNC and the DNC) are pushing Ryan to low-information people like you.

              REALITY: He didn't even carry his home state for Romney in 2012.
              He BARELY won re-election to the House in his latest run.

              NOBODY is going to vote for Ryan no matter how hard the media tries to push that.
              -Robbie
              ClaudiaMarie.Com

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              • LAJ
                Gingerific
                • Jun 2001
                • 5567

                #37
                Originally posted by crockett
                Don't be so sure the DNC is busy fucking over Bernie as well. Despite him winning Wyoming yesterday hilly gets half the delegates and all the super delegates..

                Despite loosing Hillary walks away with more delegates than Sanders. I imagine this election will have the lowest turn outs of any election in recent history because it's obvious both parties are ignoring the actual voters and it will result in many people not bothering to vote.
                Exactly. It's disgusting. I've all but lost faith in the process. In TX my vote won't matter anyway. If/when Bernie gets screwed out of the nomination I'm writing my cat in. He would do a better job than anyone else.

                Getting closer and closer to being an expat of this country.
                YNOT.com - The original industry resource
                email jay at ynot dot com or skype LAJConsulting

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                • Robbie
                  Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 20960

                  #38
                  Originally posted by bronco67
                  Even if they knew the actions needed to fix this Trump/Cruz problem
                  What's most telling is that they consider people voting for whom they want (Trump) as a "problem" that needs to be "fixed"

                  Lot of money at stake for all those establishment people. Some of those "expert" campaign advisers who Trump has made look useless earn MILLIONS of dollars for their bullshit advice that hasn't helped any of the candidates.

                  The establishment is being exposed like the emperor with no clothes. And they are fighting hard to stop that.

                  That's why they aren't lining up behind Trump and instead are trying to destroy their own front-runner.

                  They aren't even hiding it anymore...pure desperation by a bunch of greedy fuckers in the establishment who see their gravy train disappearing.
                  -Robbie
                  ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                  • noshit
                    Confirmed User
                    • Dec 2001
                    • 1582

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Robbie
                    What's most telling is that they consider people voting for whom they want (Trump) as a "problem" that needs to be "fixed"

                    Lot of money at stake for all those establishment people. Some of those "expert" campaign advisers who Trump has made look useless earn MILLIONS of dollars for their bullshit advice that hasn't helped any of the candidates.

                    The establishment is being exposed like the emperor with no clothes. And they are fighting hard to stop that.

                    That's why they aren't lining up behind Trump and instead are trying to destroy their own front-runner.

                    They aren't even hiding it anymore...pure desperation by a bunch of greedy fuckers in the establishment who see their gravy train disappearing.
                    Great Post..!

                    .

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                    • ITraffic
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jul 2013
                      • 2725

                      #40
                      Originally posted by bronco67
                      To fix their overall party conundrum and make themselves more palatable to the changing demographics they'll need years (maybe a generation) of gradual change that is actually sincere.
                      confirmed:

                      Republicans Admit That A Trump Or Cruz Win Will Destroy The GOP For A Generation

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                      • crockett
                        in a van by the river
                        • May 2003
                        • 76818

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Robbie
                        What's most telling is that they consider people voting for whom they want (Trump) as a "problem" that needs to be "fixed"

                        Lot of money at stake for all those establishment people. Some of those "expert" campaign advisers who Trump has made look useless earn MILLIONS of dollars for their bullshit advice that hasn't helped any of the candidates.

                        The establishment is being exposed like the emperor with no clothes. And they are fighting hard to stop that.

                        That's why they aren't lining up behind Trump and instead are trying to destroy their own front-runner.

                        They aren't even hiding it anymore...pure desperation by a bunch of greedy fuckers in the establishment who see their gravy train disappearing.
                        The establishment isn't going anywhere people will just become disenfranchised and do nothing. People in this country are more worried about making their payments on their mc mansions and 60 month car loans than what happens in DC.

                        Look at Iceland as a prefect example of what this country isnt. When it came out their PM was hiding money, the people took to the streets and ran him out of office last week.

                        People in this country are more worried about their new iphone than getting fucked by the govt from corrupt political system. People here are fat and lazy..
                        In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                        • bronco67
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 29032

                          #42
                          They've already been doing it for years. It's not like they needed Trump or Cruz's help. I'd say Trump or Cruz isn't the problem -- they're more of a symptom of the problem.

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                          • slapass
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Nov 2002
                            • 14625

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Robbie
                            What's most telling is that they consider people voting for whom they want (Trump) as a "problem" that needs to be "fixed"

                            Lot of money at stake for all those establishment people. Some of those "expert" campaign advisers who Trump has made look useless earn MILLIONS of dollars for their bullshit advice that hasn't helped any of the candidates.

                            The establishment is being exposed like the emperor with no clothes. And they are fighting hard to stop that.

                            That's why they aren't lining up behind Trump and instead are trying to destroy their own front-runner.

                            They aren't even hiding it anymore...pure desperation by a bunch of greedy fuckers in the establishment who see their gravy train disappearing.
                            Good news is it makes people want to vote for Trump. Bad news is it shows how out of it the RNC really is.

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                            • slapass
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Nov 2002
                              • 14625

                              #44
                              Originally posted by crockett
                              The establishment isn't going anywhere people will just become disenfranchised and do nothing. People in this country are more worried about making their payments on their mc mansions and 60 month car loans than what happens in DC.

                              Look at Iceland as a prefect example of what this country isnt. When it came out their PM was hiding money, the people took to the streets and ran him out of office last week.

                              People in this country are more worried about their new iphone than getting fucked by the govt from corrupt political system. People here are fat and lazy..
                              Or we have it so good that we don't care.

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                              • Robbie
                                Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 20960

                                #45
                                Originally posted by bronco67
                                They've already been doing it for years. It's not like they needed Trump or Cruz's help. I'd say Trump or Cruz isn't the problem -- they're more of a symptom of the problem.
                                Exactly. Trump or Cruz didn't just appear magically. And Bernie's popularity didn't just happen either.

                                Not one of those people are what we have been spoonfed into believing is supposed to be President. Not one.

                                But people are sick and tired of electing the chosen candidates and then watching them do none of the things they were elected to do.

                                If I were a Republican...I would leave that party immediately. Think about it: they are opposed to abortion, they also want a smaller govt. with less spending.
                                Bush was in office for all those years with a fully controlled Republican House and Senate.
                                So why isn't abortion illegal? Why did Bush spend MORE money and make govt. BIGGER?
                                Because he was NEVER going to do what the voters elected him to do.

                                If I were a Democrat...I would leave that party too. Obama has been President for almost 8 years now. Why aren't taxes a lot higher? Why isn't the govt. a LOT bigger? Yeah, I know he has a Republican legislature to deal with...but the first two years he had FULL control with a super majority in the House and Senate. And all we got was ObamaCare?
                                He never had any intention on doing what the voters elected him to do.

                                People want someone who isn't owned by special interests and will just do what they say they are going to do. Or at least try to do it. And if Congress won't work with them...guess what? They are gonna get voted out too.

                                We KNOW what Trump wants to do. We KNOW what Bernie wants to do.

                                Jeb? He would have said anything to get elected. And then obey all the people that donated those hundreds of millions of dollars to him.
                                Hillary? Same exact thing.

                                People are tired of it.
                                -Robbie
                                ClaudiaMarie.Com

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