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Old 04-04-2016, 08:38 AM   #51
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Old 04-04-2016, 09:25 AM   #52
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It doesn't matter really. The GOP has thrown in the towel on this one. They can't win the general with or without Drumpf and he can't win with or without them. They will focus on keeping what they have in congress in light of Trump and the Supreme court debacle that will just get worse.

The report that they put out in 2012 says it all. They needed to bring in women and minorities to the party and ease up on social issues that have wide national support. They essentially did the opposite and pandered to the low brow instead of moving left and competing.

There is no silent majority for Trump, that is becoming more and more evident. He has the same people he always has and can't lose no matter what he says. Even the GFY banter is just boring. The guy is a joke and supporting him should be embarrassing.

I hope Bernie can pull something together, but Trump is just done.
You've always been very smart about politics.

I remember that report in 2012, and it was similar to a report in 2008. It's very simple - they need to win over women, Hispanics, and minorities. And then they turn around and do the direct opposite.

I am stunned that we still debate abortion; I understand a large percentage of people in the country are religious but not everyone bases their decisions on religion, and some one else's religion shouldn't be deciding our laws.

Then we have the immigration issue. Build all the walls you want, but that is not going to fix the problem. The vast majority of illegal immigrants came through a government checkpoint and then just never went home. We can spend the next decade and billions of dollars building a huge wall, and it won't change a damn thing.

I understand we are months away from the election, but the poll say Trump looses no matter what:

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton
RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Sanders

Here is what I don't understand about the Republican party.... They hate Hillary so bad and are doing everything they can to get rid of her with this email stuff, but... If they put Trump up against Sanders it's twice as bad.
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Old 04-04-2016, 09:32 AM   #53
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Donald Trump wants to tax the world. Is that even legal?

He has a point. When we look at how our leaders have fucked us over for decades it's clear we need to take back control.

Read the article to see why so many jobs are leaving the US and EU.

How he turns it around will be the problem. Can he rip up all the trade deals on his own?

If he does will he get re-elected when prices in the shops rise 10% to 20%? That's assuming the jobs stay in the Third World and don't come back. Bringing them back could double the price of many goods.

Not that his supporters have the capacity to think beyond the soundbite.
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Old 04-04-2016, 09:54 AM   #54
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What I love about Trump supporters is they are pure reactionary and emotion. They don't THINK they just REACT.

But here's The Best Part: when someone who sees through The Donald's shall we say "limitations" Trump supporters accuse the thinkers in the crowd of doing exactly what Trump supporters do: react and not think. It's a cozy little logic loop Trump supporters keep themselves in.

It's kinda sad and sick.
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the republicans have been trying to make inroads with hispanics, women, muslims and so on over the last twenty years because their angry white man demographic is dying off.

and all that work was undone in a few months.

really seems like his campaign jumped the shark last few weeks. there is only so much stupid shit you can say, so many lies you get caught in, appear so clueless on so many important issues before you end up with the worst approval ratings ever seen in a candidate across all demos.
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Old 04-04-2016, 10:19 AM   #56
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Old 04-04-2016, 11:07 AM   #57
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What I love about Trump supporters is they are pure reactionary and emotion. They don't THINK they just REACT.

But here's The Best Part: when someone who sees through The Donald's shall we say "limitations" Trump supporters accuse the thinkers in the crowd of doing exactly what Trump supporters do: react and not think. It's a cozy little logic loop Trump supporters keep themselves in.

It's kinda sad and sick.
And still Trump is a way better option than Hillary, Cruz or Sanders. Says alot about those 3 corrupt idiots.
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And still Trump is a way better option than Hillary, Cruz or Sanders. Says alot about those 3 corrupt idiots.
Well, I wouldn't say he is a "better" option just a different one. What it really says is how fucking sad and corrupt America is that the only choices we get is this clown crew.
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Well, I wouldn't say he is a "better" option just a different one. What it really says is how fucking sad and corrupt America is that the only choices we get is this clown crew.
thats the thing. money, & more specifically lots of it, is so important to people that they will sell out their ideals, sell out their supporters, for a big paycheck. Look how politicians make money when they leave office. its crazy! they get jobs from people who pay them for the sole purpose of accessing people in power. Eric cantor got voted out of his own party, & in return gets a million dollar job to hobnob with his friends. How much money did the clintons make, 10s of millions?

& our right wing scotus says money is speech so even corporations have the right to speak with cash.

voting is just supporting the least bad option now. you can choose between a showman, a socialist, or a felon. take your pick.
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thats the thing. money, & more specifically lots of it, is so important to people that they will sell out their ideals, sell out their supporters, for a big paycheck. Look how politicians make money when they leave office. its crazy! they get jobs from people who pay them for the sole purpose of accessing people in power. Eric cantor got voted out of his own party, & in return gets a million dollar job to hobnob with his friends. How much money did the clintons make, 10s of millions?

& our right wing scotus says money is speech so even corporations have the right to speak with cash.

voting is just supporting the least bad option now. you can choose between a showman, a socialist, or a felon. take your pick.
Which one is the felon again?
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Old 04-04-2016, 12:46 PM   #61
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The only candidate on either side who seems neither corrupt, crazy or stupid is John Kasich, which unsurprisingly puts him wayyyyyy in last place.
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This picture sums up Trump rather well I think.

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Scary guys with facial hair? They look like the cops on Law & Order. .
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thats the thing. money, & more specifically lots of it, is so important to people that they will sell out their ideals, sell out their supporters, for a big paycheck. Look how politicians make money when they leave office. its crazy! they get jobs from people who pay them for the sole purpose of accessing people in power. Eric cantor got voted out of his own party, & in return gets a million dollar job to hobnob with his friends. How much money did the clintons make, 10s of millions?

& our right wing scotus says money is speech so even corporations have the right to speak with cash.

voting is just supporting the least bad option now. you can choose between a showman, a socialist, or a felon. take your pick.
In the UK so many got pissed off with the status quo of having the EU tell everyone what to do. UKIP rose from nowhere to scaring the Tories into giving Brits a referendum. Other EU countries are seeing a real surge of Nationalism.

Are you saying the US has no such independents? If so vote for the guy who isn't sitting in the seat.

Bush made millions out of being President. His backers made billions. Look at who got the contracts to clean up after the wars. The strangest part is so many people blame the Government when clearly they're not to blame. It's the people using (buying) the Government that need to be blamed.

In Europe, we have a similar situation, big business and the EU giving jobs to politicians. We even gave Blair the warmonger the job as ME envoy. Does it get more ironic?

Yes it does. Electing a big businessman to be President in a country where the norm is big businessmen buying politicians. And expecting it to work out.
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What do you mean by " liberty and freedom"?
With Britts never knowing the difference, that's Exactly the question a Redcoat would ask.
Similar to Abroad and Overseas... Exactly where Redcoats should be!

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This picture sums up Trump rather well I think.

Sadly he needs protection for being anti establishment.

Someone who stood for the same values here in Holland was assassinated 9 days before the general elections.
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That's what happens when people have liberty and freedom.
Because according to the serfdom history of the Britts...THAT's when bad things happen!

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the republicans have been trying to make inroads with hispanics, women, muslims and so on over the last twenty years because their angry white man demographic is dying off.
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With Britts never knowing the difference, that's Exactly the question a Redcoat would ask.
Similar to Abroad and Overseas... Exactly where Redcoats should be!

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So explain it to me. Because I have the Liberty and Freedom to do as I please.
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Because according to the serfdom history of the Britts...THAT's when bad things happen!

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Does a country without a functioning Government, laws, police, courts, etc. Has more liberty and freedom.

Like where? Not the US for certain.

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He wouldn't need that much protection in a country that had the Liberty and Freedom, to buy a gun and shoot anyone they disagree with.
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