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Rant Alright, WTF ICM Registry?

03-22-2016, 07:24 PM

You wanted to make .xxx the "Redlight district of the internet" - but now you're also pushing .adult, .porn, .sex ...how am I supposed to decide which one to get and brand? Why would I get .xxx over .porn? Or vice versa?
I'll bet you say just get them all! Lol.
You've now given TOO many options, thus I don't want any of them.
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03-23-2016, 01:00 AM

Paradox of choice is a bitch

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03-23-2016, 02:59 AM

Life's pretty sweet when you have a virtual monopoly, but even after this flood of useless TLDs I'm sure there's still plenty of suckers willing to pay.

ICM must have made some nice $ from companies registering .xxx domains simply to protect trademarks and/or avoid squatting. With hundreds (or is it thousands?) of new TLDs is that even practical any more? Doesn't really matter, ICM already made their money...
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03-23-2016, 03:07 AM

Fuckem all except the good ole standard DOT COM
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03-23-2016, 11:43 AM

Originally posted by rowan

ICM must have made some nice $ from companies registering .xxx domains simply to protect trademarks and/or avoid squatting. With hundreds (or is it thousands?) of new TLDs is that even practical any more? Doesn't really matter, ICM already made their money...

Exactly - are companies paying for for ALL these TLDs now just to avoid squatting?
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03-23-2016, 12:09 PM

pus seo's buying them to get emds. see lots of these ranking now.
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03-23-2016, 12:57 PM

Originally posted by ITraffic

pus seo's buying them to get emds. see lots of these ranking now.

26% of the top 100 serps for the term 'sex cam' are not .com gTLDs I just checked.
6% are .xxx
of the new gTLDs:
1 ea --
.xyz
.tel
.online

or 3% and it is just starting ...
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03-23-2016, 01:30 PM

Originally posted by MiamiBoyz

Fuckem all except the good ole standard DOT COM

Only problem with that is there's approx 50,000 new websites built every day, so at some point the dot coms will dry up or be so fucking long that no one will be able to remember them.

Also, I'm willing to bet with all that Google has invested in non dot coms they will at certain point start giving them precedence over the dot coms and when that happens I bet the dot exidius will begin.

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03-23-2016, 01:35 PM

Originally posted by ITraffic

pus seo's buying them to get emds. see lots of these ranking now.

That's no bullshit!
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03-26-2016, 12:41 PM

Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam

26% of the top 100 serps for the term 'sex cam' are not .com gTLDs I just checked.
6% are .xxx
of the new gTLDs:
1 ea --
.xyz
.tel
.online

or 3% and it is just starting ...

hmmmm... interdasting
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03-26-2016, 12:46 PM

Originally posted by Wizzo

Only problem with that is there's approx 50,000 new websites built every day, so at some point the dot coms will dry up or be so fucking long that no one will be able to remember them.

Also, I'm willing to bet with all that Google has invested in non dot coms they will at certain point start giving them precedence over the dot coms and when that happens I bet the dot exidius will begin.

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03-27-2016, 05:28 AM

Originally posted by Wizzo

Only problem with that is there's approx 50,000 new websites built every day, so at some point the dot coms will dry up or be so fucking long that no one will be able to remember them.

Also, I'm willing to bet with all that Google has invested in non dot coms they will at certain point start giving them precedence over the dot coms and when that happens I bet the dot exidius will begin.

While i ignore every domain extension offered by icm registry and will never buy any extension there even if someone would threat me with gun, i would dare to say how due a lot of new domain extensions com wont be king anymore. I mean, that "king" reputation was mainly because when people usually were typing in domain, they were adding com to it. But let's say someone is looking for marijuana reviews, now that user could type just marijuana.reviews instead marijuanareviews.com which is less to type, and that is what gives power to new domain extensions, an easier brand-ability and reach-ability compared to com extension.
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03-27-2016, 05:56 AM

Originally posted by Wizzo

Also, I'm willing to bet with all that Google has invested in non dot coms they will at certain point start giving them precedence over the dot coms and when that happens I bet the dot exidius will begin.

Don't see that happening. Think content is king and if ya do see other extensions ranking over a .com it's due to the content/seo being stronger.

Some cheap extensions have been pushed into users accounts that didn't even ask for them so actual end user usage numbers are a fairy tale. Some cheap extensions have also become a spammers dream so unlikely they would be favored when filled with spam/traps.

.Com will be king for many years to come and the extension where type in traffic still falls. A few new extensions will catch on with the majority failing. Registrars can still be profitable on the ones that don't do great based on increased costs so the domainer is the one who gets fucked from internal pipe dream hype.

ICM's whole marketing strategy has been fear based not advantage based as there is no advantage other than protecting someone else from owning it at an inflated cost. Money being made on selling the hype, not so much on actual usage.

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03-27-2016, 06:01 AM

Originally posted by MiamiBoyz

Fuckem all except the good ole standard DOT COM

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03-27-2016, 06:43 AM

There is an incumbent interest in the investment and scarcity of .com names held in speculation.
The are millions of business that own trademark names that are in the .com TLD.

I haven't seen much generic branding of the new gTLD strings yet.

Most likely, 5% or 10% of the commercially available new gTLDs will be branded successfully. Remember, many new gTLDs are for only company use like; .google, .ibm, .brand, or .trademark.

As for content, people invest in websites and not the TLD. Trademark will protect the development in the new TLDs and any name hijacking or traffic hijacking by a confusing similar named incumbent domain extension may result in domain name forfeiture under the WIPO UDRP
UDRP Procedures for Generic Top Level Domains (gTLDs)
WIPO Overview of WIPO Panel Views on Selected UDRP Questions, Second Edition ("WIPO Overview 2.0")

If you are holding a .com name for resale I would seriously consider any reasonable offer now.

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08-07-2016, 10:45 AM

Anyone find any value in getting .porn, .adult, .sex etc. domains?
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08-07-2016, 10:49 AM

Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam

26% of the top 100 serps for the term 'sex cam' are not .com gTLDs I just checked.
6% are .xxx
of the new gTLDs:
1 ea --
.xyz
.tel
.online

or 3% and it is just starting ...

The first of those results is #5 and it's a crappy .xxx https://www.myfavsexcams.xxx I wonder why?

Edit: researched results a bit I see what's going down ;) Gonna be a drip drip thing probably for specific keyword results ranked on a sliding scale for those extensions

Crappier SEO ranks you higher for crappier sites solely on extension related keywords. Not good for Google though as this increases the percentage of poorer quality results.

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08-07-2016, 10:56 AM

The market will sort it all out eventually.

.com and the other non generic extensions will eventually be quaint.
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08-07-2016, 01:50 PM

I dont buy any ICMR product the whole thig was a scam as has been pointed out the real money they make is from defensive registrations....theres enough slimebags in this biz we should weed a few out.

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08-07-2016, 02:45 PM

Originally posted by mikesouth

theres enough slimebags in this biz we should weed a few out.

Let's start with you, when are you leaving ?
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08-07-2016, 02:51 PM

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08-07-2016, 04:19 PM

I am of the opinion that .xxx was very poorly marketed to the porn market. Also, their new gTLD .adult is a repeat of their prior mistakes.

No one in the adult industry needs IFFOR as the "secret police" to enforce registry guidelines.

At the .cam registry I will be part of the executive committee promulgating policy and I can promise you I have no interest in establishing a police state or cooperating with governments that want to restrict speech that exceeds;
firstly, the ICANN administrative policy toward its Registries,
and secondly any policies in conflict with the guaranteed rights promulgated by The Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union or subsequent EU Directive,
and thirdly Dutch Laws and Regulations.
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08-07-2016, 07:30 PM

Originally posted by MiamiBoyz

Fuckem all except the good ole standard DOT COM

Amen, and in some occasions .net
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08-07-2016, 10:09 PM

Originally posted by AdultKing

Let's start with you, when are you leaving ?

say what you like but i never took a payoff from fabian....you damn sure did whowed your true colors...

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08-07-2016, 10:27 PM

.com only, sometime I go with .net/.org if it's something really decent.
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08-15-2016, 04:50 PM

Originally posted by mikesouth

say what you like but i never took a payoff from fabian....you damn sure did whowed your true colors...

Want poppcorn...
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08-15-2016, 05:04 PM

Originally posted by mikesouth

say what you like but i never took a payoff from fabian....you damn sure did whowed your true colors...

You keep repeating this falsehood. I don't know why you do it but you're wrong. You were wrong the first time you said this and you're wrong now.

Originally posted by ReggieDurango

Want poppcorn...

Mike South making shit up is hardly popcorn material.
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08-15-2016, 05:21 PM

Originally posted by AdultKing

You keep repeating this falsehood. I don't know why you do it but you're wrong. You were wrong the first time you said this and you're wrong now.

Mike South making shit up is hardly popcorn material.

He posted proof before yeah?

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08-15-2016, 05:38 PM

Originally posted by mikesouth

say what you like but i never took a payoff from fabian....you damn sure did whowed your true colors...

Gee Mike, you guys used to be so chummy:

A Word From AdultKing and a Challenge « MikeSouth.Com

What the hell Mike, you YOURSELF in the above article straight up asked Manwin to donate to him? Now you're mad they did? I don't get that one bit..

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08-15-2016, 06:00 PM

I've said this before, I'll say it again.

Not one cent came personally to me from anyone - it all went to the organisation running the project.

I love how I keep getting criticised for trying to do something about piracy, I don't remember anyone else donating several years of their time and putting their personal safety at risk to try and hit pirates where it hurt most.

From the start to the end of the project we were shutting down pirate sites virtually every day. A lot of people and companies contributed to the project. It's a shame it wasn't able to continue for longer than it did.
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08-15-2016, 06:54 PM

Originally posted by AdultKing

I've said this before, I'll say it again.

Not one cent came personally to me from anyone - it all went to the organisation running the project.

I love how I keep getting criticised for trying to do something about piracy, I don't remember anyone else donating several years of their time and putting their personal safety at risk to try and hit pirates where it hurt most.

From the start to the end of the project we were shutting down pirate sites virtually every day. A lot of people and companies contributed to the project. It's a shame it wasn't able to continue for longer than it did.

I have a mild rant that I never got a chance to air. Over the course of the project I donated a modest 10k give or take a few grand. This was all based on the promise of raptor which wasgoing to help my anti piracy team be more efficient and eventually replace some of the less diligent ones. This is why I helped. To this day I never seen or used "raptor."
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08-15-2016, 07:09 PM

Originally posted by DukeSkywalker

I have a mild rant that I never got a chance to air. Over the course of the project I donated a modest 10k give or take a few grand. This was all based on the promise of raptor which wasgoing to help my anti piracy team be more efficient and eventually replace some of the less diligent ones. This is why I helped. To this day I never seen or used "raptor."
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You're welcome to have access to the source repository which has been frozen since we closed the project.

The system was written in PHP/CodeIgniter and relies on API access from DomainTools, MyIP.ms, Alexa, Google and a couple of other services.

Running Raptor is not trivial though. You need several web crawlers to be running on several machines or instances and a server for the Raptor system itself.

We had two full time programmers and myself working on Raptor and associated systems for quite a long time. This isn't the kind of stuff you whip up in a few months. When the money stopped flowing the development stopped along with deployment of the development version we were running in production.

Internally we used Raptor for several months, unfortunately there wasn't the funding to take it to the stage where third parties could use it beyond the API which was provided toward the end of the project.
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08-16-2016, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by mikesouth
say what you like but i never took a payoff from fabian....you damn sure did whowed your true colors...

Originally posted by ReggieDurango

Gee Mike, you guys used to be so chummy:

A Word From AdultKing and a Challenge « MikeSouth.Com

What the hell Mike, you YOURSELF in the above article straight up asked Manwin to donate to him? Now you're mad they did? I don't get that one bit..

"Digital Playground, Wicked, Vivid, Manwin?.Time to step up"

Bump for an explanation on this from Mike..
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