Chemical Plant turns out to be a cement Factory

[ServerGenius]

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0...084802,00.html

DynaMite

[Fletch XXX]

of course it is.

everyone takes the time and effort to make sure the US cannot see their cement factories from the air.

hahaha

[Brad Mitchell]

ahhh... they're not allowed to have cement, they were supposed to be bombed back to the stone age!

[flashfreak]

ahahahahahaha...
maybe next time

[ServerGenius]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
of course it is.

everyone takes the time and effort to make sure the US cannot see their cement factories from the air.

hahaha

The factory was not camouflaged an army base NEXT to the
factory was. The POW´s taken at the site were from the army
base and had NOTHING to do with the plant.

DynaMite

[ServerGenius]

Fron the article:

Graves pointed out that the US and Britain are desperate for evidence that Iraq has been manufacturing weapons of mass destruction.

"This has been cited as the main reason for going to war against Saddam Hussein, who denies having banned weapons.

"It would also explain why, in this case, there was so much excitement when troops investigated the factory."

DynaMite

[Fletch XXX]

Thats cool.

Saddam is already firing banned UN weaponry at us.

So its only a matter of time before we take it over and find all his secrets.

[Honeyslut]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
of course it is.

everyone takes the time and effort to make sure the US cannot see their cement factories from the air.

hahaha

Oh, come on.. Every country has an electric fence around their cement factories..


hehehe

[ServerGenius]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
Thats cool.

Saddam is already firing banned UN weaponry at us.

So its only a matter of time before we take it over and find all his secrets.

You mean the few Al Samoud missiles that were NOT destroyed
yet because the US started the war before Iraq finished to
destroy all these missiles under auspicien of the UN weapon
inspectors?

DynaMite

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by DynaSpain


You mean the few Al Samoud missiles that were NOT destroyed
yet because the US started the war before Iraq finished to
destroy all these missiles under auspicien of the UN weapon
inspectors?

DynaMite

Its as simple as this.

If Saddam fired a single banned missile at us, this is proof he has yet again not played by the rules and again went against the UN.

Deny it all you want Dynaspain, stomping your foot doesnt change anything, sitting back and absorbing the facts is what this comes down to.

Again, if Saddam has banned weapons, when will it be enough? When we find the big toys? Just wait, we will.

We havent even gotten underground yet.

[mule]

Yay, now when Iraq gets turned into a parking lot, Saddam can use his chemical weapons to pave it

[ServerGenius]

I´m not denying anything at all...I´m just following the facts.
I would also like to see Sadam leave and better yesterday than
tomorrow......however the way the US chose to deal with this
is a big mistake. That´s the opinion of almost the whole world
and I happen to share that opinion.

It´s not the first time this happens and it won´t be the last.
But someday it will backfire at them....and someday might be
someday soon.

DynaMite

[Rose]

Originally posted by DynaSpain


You mean the few Al Samoud missiles that were NOT destroyed
yet because the US started the war before Iraq finished to
destroy all these missiles under auspicien of the UN weapon
inspectors?

DynaMite

German team in Kuwait said that those are really SCUDS and not Al Samoud missiles. Just like those missiles landing in Iran, Iran said No cruise missiles nut Iraqi made missiles landed in Iran

[Sly_RJ]

Originally posted by Rose


German team in Kuwait said that those are really SCUDS and not Al Samoud missiles. Just like those missiles landing in Iran, Iran said No cruise missiles nut Iraqi made missiles landed in Iran

Interesting.

Any articles about this?

[Fletch XXX]

I´m not denying anything at all...I´m just following the facts.
I would also like to see Sadam leave and better yesterday than
tomorrow......however the way the US chose to deal with this
is a big mistake. That´s the opinion of almost the whole world
and I happen to share that opinion.

Tell me in your words how we should have handled it. Dont show me a link, or quote anyone, tell me in your words.

It´s not the first time this happens and it won´t be the last.
But someday it will backfire at them....and someday might be
someday soon.

Even Spain is behind us in this, just because a bunch of civilians disagree with a war doesnt mean its gonna stop it.

And after we find all the nasty truth in this, you and your country will be safer, thanks to US, the good ole US.

Hey maybe we will cut the people who help us a better deal on some oil in the next 30 years ;)

[directfiesta]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX


Its as simple as this.

If Saddam fired a single banned missile at us, this is proof he has yet again not played by the rules and again went against the UN.

"UN is irrelevant"
Rumsfeld

[Rose]

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Interesting.

Any articles about this?

I dont read the news on the net, they said it on the canadian radio news station this morning

[Sly_RJ]

Originally posted by directfiesta





"UN is irrelevant"
Rumsfeld

Hehe. Now you're using anti-UN statements when it best suits you, but otherwise you'll use UN resolutions and such when they best suit you.

[directfiesta]

Originally posted by Rose


I dont read the news on the net, they said it on the canadian radio news station this morning

I dont read the news on the net, I fabricate them.

[flashfreak]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX

And after we find all the nasty truth in this, you and your country will be safer, thanks to US, the good ole US.

cmon.. stop this shitty propaganda...

[DJRCyberAVS]

Sly,

German team in Kuwait said that those are really SCUDS and not Al Samoud missiles. Just like those missiles landing in Iran, Iran said No cruise missiles nut Iraqi made missiles landed in Iran

The Iran incident was mentioned briefly on Sky News or BBCNews24 about 6 hours ago. It had not been confirmed at that time, but was believed to be Scuds fired from Iraq.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by flashfreak

cmon.. stop this shitty propaganda...

Is Spain is assisting us in any way, his country is directly acting towards their countrymens protection are they not?

I cant care any less about it all, but with all the anti-american shit here, just figured i would point out the things I see.

[directfiesta]

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Hehe. Now you're using anti-UN statements when it best suits you, but otherwise you'll use UN resolutions and such when they best suit you.

Caught me my pants down..... The night was short and a lot of work today.

Everybody can argue forever, post links, counter-links, vidclips, and so on. Wont change a fucking thing. People are dying.

Now, if I was the Iraqi, knowing that they have pratically no food and little water ( oil for food doesn't work in war time), I would free and return the less than 30 coalition POW to the Coalition forces.

That many mouth less to feed and a great media coverage....

Meanwhile, I will liberate my cat in the backyard....

[Rose]

Originally posted by directfiesta


I dont read the news on the net, I fabricate them.

fiesta boy, I think that you are a real idiot. BTW I am not for this war but you are typical brainwashed french canadian. Your province is full of people like you, maybe that's why it's called "have not province" always waiting for money from Ottawa.

[mule]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
I cant care any less about it all, but with all the anti-american shit here, just figured i would point out the things I see.

Anti-war isn't anti-american, numbskull

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by mule

Anti-war isn't anti-american, numbskull

Do you know what I am thinking of when I write? You can hardly be capable of knowing why I write these things.

I have seen enough Anti American shit here.

And I need not point it out to you.

[directfiesta]

Originally posted by Rose


Your province is full of people like you,

Ouf, I am part of the majority... I agree, we do not have many rednecks here!

[ServerGenius]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX


Even Spain is behind us in this, just because a bunch of civilians disagree with a war doesnt mean its gonna stop it.

And after we find all the nasty truth in this, you and your country will be safer, thanks to US, the good ole US.

Hey maybe we will cut the people who help us a better deal on some oil in the next 30 years ;)

Wrong....the Spanish Prime minister is with the US for 1 simple
reason. He smells money. Spain is the worst performing EU
member. It´s only draining money from the EU and has little
to nothing to contribute. The Spanish minister is only with the
US because of money.

There will be elections this year or next year. He will never make
another term.....nor will his party.


My own opinion about how the US should have handled this?
Very simple.....according the democratic system of the UN.

The UN was founded for these reasons only and the US is a
member of the UN. You can argue about if the UN has any sense
or not. The fact is there is a UN and the US is a member.

Going to War by themselfes overruling the UN is a big mistake.
It shows the US has NO respect for democracy when they don´t
agree with a democatic decision. That´s the behaviour of a
Dictatorship and the same behaviour the US is accusing Sadam
off.

As long as decisions are in favour of the US they agree when it´s
against their wishes they just chose to do whatever the fuck they
like.

And they keep calling themselfes the Leader of the FREE world
and an example for World Democracy.

DynaMite

[Sly_RJ]

Originally posted by mule

Anti-war isn't anti-american, numbskull

We must be reading different boards. I see plenty of both, daily.

Believe it or not, I'm anti-war. Anti-capital punishment as well. Most of my statements suggest otherwise. The only difference between one anti-war person and myself is that I realize "talking" with an irrational man leads to no good.

You can not reason with the unreasonable. To think you can is absurd.

Sometimes force is needed. This is one of them.

[theking]

Originally posted by DynaSpain
http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0...084802,00.html

DynaMite

The title of your post is mis-information. No where does the article say that what was found was a cement factory.

"Spokesman Ewen Buchanan said UN inspectors visited a cement plant in Najaf earlier this year but did not find anything untoward."

[Rose]

Originally posted by directfiesta


Ouf, I am part of the majority... I agree, we do not have many rednecks here!

LOL you dont have anything there, no money, no jobs but you have your nazi language police harrassing people.

[SquarePants]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX


Do you know what I am thinking of when I write? You can hardly be capable of knowing why I write these things.

I have seen enough Anti American shit here.

And I need not point it out to you.

Right on Fletch

[ServerGenius]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX


Is Spain is assisting us in any way, his country is directly acting towards their countrymens protection are they not?

I cant care any less about it all, but with all the anti-american shit here, just figured i would point out the things I see.

Just to be clear. I´m not Spanish....I´m Dutch. Even if I was
Spanish because a politician agrees with something that doesn´t
mean the population of that country also agrees. In Spain´s case
95% are against the war.

And no I´m not Anti America. I´m against the way America
is handling this situation. Not agreeing with something does
not mean that you´re against a whole nation or every aspect
of a nation. The US also does and has done a lot of good.

But this war is a big NO, NO actually G.W. Bush is a big NO, NO
but again I´m not that ignorant that I´ll judge a whole nation
and it´s population for the actions of a few guys. Dutch are way
too tolerant to do such a thing

DynaMite

[Fletch XXX]

Wrong....the Spanish Prime minister is with the US for 1 simple
reason. He smells money. Spain is the worst performing EU
member. It´s only draining money from the EU and has little
to nothing to contribute. The Spanish minister is only with the
US because of money.

Damn, that sucks.

The UN was founded for these reasons only and the US is a
member of the UN. You can argue about if the UN has any sense
or not. The fact is there is a UN and the US is a member.

So is iraq, can you explain the recent discovery of banned missiles? If that is not yet another breach of the UN membership nothing is.

So basically, people like you are waiting for the US soldier to get hit with Chemical Weapons, then youll agree?

Or will you say the Americans deserved it?

Forget it, I already know your answer.

That´s the behaviour of a
Dictatorship and the same behaviour the US is accusing Sadam
off.

Are you drunk?

The US is accusing Saddam of nothing, his actions are his downfall.

Again, can you explain these illegal missiles?

Thats clearly another case of him not abding by the UN.

So claiming Bush doesnt is silly.

[directfiesta]

Originally posted by Rose


LOL you dont have anything there, no money, no jobs but you have your nazi language police harrassing people.

A lot of people are employed by that nazi police... that creates job...

Hey, admit your post was very easy to blast...

[theking]

"The factory was not camouflaged an army base NEXT to the
factory was. The POW´s taken at the site were from the army
base and had NOTHING to do with the plant."

In addition this is mis-information as this also is not stated in the article.

[ServerGenius]

Originally posted by theking


The title of your post is mis-information. No where does the article say that what was found was a cement factory.

"Spokesman Ewen Buchanan said UN inspectors visited a cement plant in Najaf earlier this year but did not find anything untoward."

LOL yes the title is mis-information. I used the same mis-information as the US used initially when they reported about
this so called chemical plant. And it did get your attention

DynaMite

[theking]

Originally posted by DynaSpain


LOL yes the title is mis-information. I used the same mis-information as the US used initially when they reported about
this so called chemical plant. And it did get your attention

DynaMite

Not the US government or military. The US media which uses to many adjectives and more often than not whose initial reports are not entirely correct.

[Rose]

Originally posted by directfiesta


A lot of people are employed by that nazi police... that creates job...

Hey, admit your post was very easy to blast...

Blast what? Everyone outside Quebec knows that people there are arrogant assholes, that think they are better than the rest of Canada, but without money from the that rest of Canada they'd go hungry

[ServerGenius]

Originally posted by theking


Not the US government or military. The US media which uses to many adjectives and more often than not whose initial reports are not entirely correct.

You're right I wasn´t referring to the US goverment or Military.
It was just a slick way to draw some attention to the thread.

DynaMite

[ServerGenius]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX


Are you drunk?

The US is accusing Saddam of nothing, his actions are his downfall.

Again, can you explain these illegal missiles?

Thats clearly another case of him not abding by the UN.

So claiming Bush doesnt is silly.

What is a breach and how to react on a breach is to be decided
by the UN of which the US is a member it´s as simple as that.

The UN decided to continue the process of using weapons
inspectors for another 3 months or so. The US has waited 12
years 3 months wouldn´t have made that much of a difference.

Except that probably 1000´s of innocent lives could have been
spared. There was NO inmediate threat to the US coming from
Iraq. The UN decided by a democratic decision to continue diplomacy.

The US just said....fuck that we don´t want that so now we don´t
care what you want we´re going to do it our own way. If that´s
democratic then I´m very curious about your opinion. It´s the
same any dictator would do and has NOTHING to do with democracy.

DynaMite

[Rose]

Sun Mar 23, 8:59 AM ET

TEHRAN, Iran - Tehran said Sunday a missile that landed in northwestern Iran was probably Iraqi, the official Islamic Republic News Agency reported Sunday.



It said Iraq (news - web sites)'s top envoy in Tehran was called to the Foreign Ministry to explain.


"Investigations show that the missile that hit Sardasht (in northwestern Iran) was probably Iraqi-made," IRNA quoted Interior Minister Abdolvahed Mousavi-Lari as saying.

[directfiesta]

Originally posted by Rose


Blast what? Everyone outside Quebec knows that people there are arrogant assholes, that think they are better than the rest of Canada, but without money from the that rest of Canada they'd go hungry

If I had a part of my " domain " that cost me MORE money than it BRINGS in, I would be more than happy to let them go and separate...WTF is Canada holding on.

BTW, this is off-topic and of no interest to others, or maybe it is....

If you have 2 hours, rent a movie called "Queimada" with Marlon Brando ( not a french canadian) and directed by Pontecorvo. It is very interesting to see how an empire can manipulate people...

[12clicks]

Originally posted by DynaSpain


LOL yes the title is mis-information. I used the same mis-information as the US used initially when they reported about
this so called chemical plant. And it did get your attention

DynaMite

Please link to a quote by an American official that called this plant a chemical weapons plant.

you can't because like the rest of your kind, you hate the fact that the US does whats right and ignores the dyna spins of the world who are cluelessly irrelevant.

[Gemini]

a big mistake. That´s the opinion of almost the whole world
and I happen to share that opinion.

Sorry, *we* didn't invite the rest of the world to sign the cease fire, Oops, Only the countries fighting could be present, so when Saddam broke the ceasefire, we didn't HAVE to ask [b]YOU /R countries.[/b}... Got that? He broke OUR ceasefire agreement, not YOURS.

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Btw,scuds ALSO fly further than the UN distance limit and were supposed to have ALL BEEN DESTROYED. Ask Iran if the scud that hit that oil refinery looked as if it flew there in a destroyed state or destroyed itself upon impact-explosion? Ask Kuwait if those scuds flew there in chunks. Yet another point that Iraq CHOSE to ignore the ceasefire that THEY agreed to. NO one twisted their arms their arms to sign. Having missed it, the hubby showed me the video of that signing last night. Not an arm twisted anywhere to be seen.

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Ever been IN a cement or concrete plant?? (I have more than once for college) Go take a tour of one and while you do... ask the guy what ELSE those machines can grind and mix...

Every LIFT a bag? Why would they put such a plant so far from where it will be used when its actually cheaper to haul the RAW materials to an area closer to where it will be used. Alot of serious weight per truck on bad roads, of finished product? Not the smart way to do things eh? Especially when they would have to truck the paper and plastic stock TO the factory to bag it, as well as all repacement parts.

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The Iran - Scud thing was on NBC Tv and cnn online as well as other news sites Sly...

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"UN is irrelevant" Rumsfeld See above... The UN does NOT control ceasefire agreements between two countries.

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we do not have many rednecks here!

Thats good! They'd be worn out chasing idiots around all day.
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Iraq ia getting desperate!
Iraq claims it has found an Israeli missile in Baghdad and accuses Israel of "taking part in this aggression against Iraq," Iraqi Foreign Minister Naji Sabri said Sunday.

[theking]

Originally posted by 12clicks


Please link to a quote by an American official that called this plant a chemical weapons plant.

you can't because like the rest of your kind, you hate the fact that the US does whats right and ignores the dyna spins of the world who are cluelessly irrelevant.

Originally posted by DynaSpain


You're right I wasn´t referring to the US goverment or Military.
It was just a slick way to draw some attention to the thread.

DynaMite

This was in response to my post. Pay attention oh "wise one".

[Rose]

Originally posted by directfiesta


If I had a part of my " domain " that cost me MORE money than it BRINGS in, I would be more than happy to let them go and separate...WTF is Canada holding on.

BTW, this is off-topic and of no interest to others, or maybe it is....

If you have 2 hours, rent a movie called "Queimada" with Marlon Brando ( not a french canadian) and directed by Pontecorvo. It is very interesting to see how an empire can manipulate people...

Everyone I know wouldnt care if you go my friend. People in Ontario are tired of your whining. You wanna go? Be my guest.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by DynaSpain



The US just said....fuck that we don´t want that so now we don´t
care what you want we´re going to do it our own way. If that´s
democratic then I´m very curious about your opinion. It´s the
same any dictator would do and has NOTHING to do with democracy.

See but whats funny is, the UK is just as behind this as we are.

Yet how many times to do you say the 'UK' or 'The Brits' in your posts?

Its always Anti-US, Anti-Bush stuff, so are you anti-bush or anti war?

Its easy to pick up on these things yo.

[jimmyf]

Originally posted by Rose


German team in Kuwait said that those are really SCUDS and not Al Samoud missiles. Just like those missiles landing in Iran, Iran said No cruise missiles nut Iraqi made missiles landed in Iran

SCUDS not allowed, they have a range of over 90 miles,

[directfiesta]

Originally posted by Gemini
[B][b] Sorry, *we* didn't invite the rest of the world to sign the cease fire, Oops, Only the countries fighting could be present, so when Saddam broke the ceasefire, we didn't HAVE to ask [b]YOU /R countries.[/b}... Got that? He broke OUR ceasefire agreement, not YOURS.

Tought the Gulf war was a coalition of countries under the UN resolution.

Didn't realize that Iraq has signed with the US only.

One thing I supect, he is going to terrorize YOU, not US... So at least, something good for US,.